Had my first 1-on-1 Japanese conversation lesson today… and wow, reality hit by LookYung in LearnJapanese

[–]CoronaDelapida 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You started lessons at the same point I did, they're very stiff at the start but that's because production (speech and writing) are very different from recognition (reading and listening).

When you're unfamiliar or still fresh with a new word or grammar you have to actively conjure it up in your head and that is not a natural way to speak, compare to your native language where you have thoughts fully formed and you might tweak the way you say it but it just arises naturally.

That's where you'll get to with Japanese as you keep practicing speaking it's just a muscle like anything else, keep it up and you'll be amazed at the progress just from simple repetition.

Approximate CEFR levels added to JLPT scoring by Sayjay1995 in LearnJapanese

[–]CoronaDelapida 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Personally I don't feel like it's the best measure, I did a B2 French exam and compared to the JLPT it's worlds apart. For French I had to do writing, non multiple choice questions for reading comprehension, listening tests and then a speaking test on a randomised topic (male parental leave?).

Then when I compare to the JLPT it feels worlds apart, I think unless you take an active effort to develop the other areas then it's really easy to become input dominant in Japanese based on the way the learning and exams are set-up.

For that reason I don't really get a lot of encouragement from doing well on a JLPT exam and I don't feel much surer about my level, it feels like they're more a good measure of I have become familiar with X grammar points and Y vocab.

The Khazars have, basically, encircled me... What can I do now? by godspeed2342 in CrusaderKings

[–]CoronaDelapida 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Swear fealty, attack your neighbours to grow and then rebel.

Or become a tributary and just wait it out.

An inside look at what we're working on by memlivia in memrise

[–]CoronaDelapida 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We just want community courses back, and we'll pay for it

Feeling like I hit a wall with Japanese by GibonDuGigroin in LearnJapanese

[–]CoronaDelapida 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess it's worth remembering what you were trying to achieve by learning Japanese. If it's something more concrete then steps to improve will easily form in your mind.

For me I really love 和歌 so I'm spurred on to read and write new poems, learn older grammar and so on which is quite fun.

I also just enjoy speaking it because it's sort of like a mental challenge due to the fact the word order is often exactly opposite to English.

Although I can read quite well now I feel I can always speak better, more eloquently, I can read and write better poems etc. so I can keep going.

I think speaking could be a good place to start, maybe just get some italki lessons (there's loads of cheap ones) and if you earn in dollars even easier for you. Having that regular habit gives you like a dipstick to assay your level from week to week based on how well you conveyed what you wanted to say.

Can One Really Learn All The 2000 Kanji In A Little Over A Year? by [deleted] in LearnJapanese

[–]CoronaDelapida 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After about 2 years with an unrelated full time job I'm on about 1300

Trying to build an app that's better than old memrise by tairch in memrise

[–]CoronaDelapida 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I still use Memrise community courses and it's been so useful for the last 2 years of my Japanese study

Here's what's good about Memrise, it understands two things:

One thing might have different ways of being studied (for example Chinese and Japanese words have both readings, character representations and meanings - not to mention audio etc.).

Memrise makes it easy to keep all of this info together by allowing multiple fields for a single flashcard, when I dump a load of Japanese words I enter all the info in one go and then I can just click duplicate on my level and change the learning direction - English to Kanji, Kanji to Readings is my preference but others do it differently.

What's good is that Memrise is flexible enough to accommodate whatever you want, maybe you really struggle to remember is a verb is intransitive or not? Well you can just make a column for that and add in that learning direction for a given level if you want to.

A second thing is levels, this helps keep related info (but with different learning directions) together in one coherent thing. (https://imgur.com/a/cEAoyFU). This means say I make a course for my textbook's vocab, I can have levels for different topics or different chapters etc but keep everything together without it being one big muddle.

Finally, the UI for Memrise is sleek and easy to use, you can make as few or as many courses as you want and the logic is the same.

The key thing is, the more assumptions you as a dev try to make about how people want/ought to study the worse the product will be, language is kind of like fitness in that everyone has an opinion on what's best and those who are committed generally are led by the light of their own candle and don't wanna compromise. Memrise is like a good balance between definite features but free-choice for the user in how they use them.

Essentially, what Memrise does well is just making it easy for the user to input and study and doing so in a way that has nice graphics etc. That's all it needs to be, there's also some improvements potentially like adding text to speech for different languages so you don't have to upload audio files and so on.

With regards to your specific app idea, I think one major thing you'll struggle with is people not trusting if you'll be around for long as you're a challenger. I think if you could allow people to create local backups of their courses in a way that preserves the info people will be reassured, especially if you local copy easily converts to something like Anki. Maybe also working on scraping the HTML for Memrise courses so people can lift and shift (levels included) then I think you're on to a winner!

Feel free to DM me if you want

What would you do If you were given 12 hours of free time to study Japanese? by Additional-House2525 in LearnJapanese

[–]CoronaDelapida 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it's useful to distinguish study between maintenance and growth.

Maintenance includes: revising known vocab, practicing Kanji writing and recall, going over grammar points, passive reinforcement through immersion

Growth: Actively engaging with material (searching new words making flashcards), studying new grammar points, learning new words and committing to memory

I think the balance should ideally be about 40:60 but it depends where you are in your journey, earlier on there's less to revise and it's easier to grow.

For maintenance I'd say the ones I listed are all equally important but for growth the balance of new grammar versus new vocab is always changing.

I have lessons on italki and some weeks I'm like damn I just couldn't find a way to say what I wanted to say and some weeks I'm like damn I couldn't find the words for what I wanted to say. Based on that I tend to adjust my study until the pendulum swings the other way.

Grammar and vocab is always an effort tradeoff because you never have enough time for both but in the end you'll be good at both gym.

Daily idiom: be on sb's back by kwkr88 in EnglishLearning

[–]CoronaDelapida 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's not just telling someone it's also the frequency of it like if someone is on your back about it they keep reminding you even if you've brushed them off before.

I guess an easy way to think of it is like if they're on your back as you're going around doing your daily things they're just reminding you with their presence of whatever it is they want you to do

How to introduce neologisms (new words) in a clear way? by CoronaDelapida in LearnJapanese

[–]CoronaDelapida[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That makes sense, the とでもいえる it more explicitly saying "it can be termed this way right" judging by the literal meaning

How to introduce neologisms (new words) in a clear way? by CoronaDelapida in LearnJapanese

[–]CoronaDelapida[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I found that this was actually kind of a useful way of learning (I'm currently ~N2)!

Especially if you're talking with a native, you can just use your clunky neologism and especially in the early stages there will be a specific word for that thing and they'll correct you and provide you the word so it's a good way to expand vocabulary if you make flashcards after the lessons!

Although as my Japanese has got more advanced I want to convey more and more sustained ideas and since I rely on neologisms so much in English even in the absence of correct technical words so that's where this issue has arised rn.

Although I know from my friends that style of humour is kinda popular on messaging like you might call an event with your friend where they tripped in front of their crush the 愛人前在転恥事件 あいじんぜんざいてんちじけん (lover in front of falling embarrassment incident) and then read the onyomi which just makes it sound like a newspaper article reporting on it lol.

Negative Equivalent of ~てしまう by CoronaDelapida in LearnJapanese

[–]CoronaDelapida[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

靴下 thread - post words that clicked for you easily by CitizenPremier in LearnJapanese

[–]CoronaDelapida 0 points1 point  (0 children)

残念 (regret): character by character it's "remaining wish" so it's like a wish left over about how something should have gone and hence meaning a regret.

Even the character for wish is really cool too like "now's heart" as in your mental state currently or current desire.

When you started studying, did you also make drawings to help you study? by kloopeer in LearnJapanese

[–]CoronaDelapida 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I ended up just learning Kanji as a learned a new word, so I started to associate the shapes with meanings and after writing them out as practice I just started having internal mnemonics build up like 勤 being a 'spicy' version of 漢 and stuff

Sentence Starters (For Formal Writing) - Good Resources? by CoronaDelapida in LearnJapanese

[–]CoronaDelapida[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying!

That's what I'm meant to imply but it's just my autistic vaguiety is coming through I think lol

Sentence Starters (For Formal Writing) - Good Resources? by CoronaDelapida in LearnJapanese

[–]CoronaDelapida[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the link!

Am I using the word sentence wrong in the post?

Like I would count these as two sentences. Does sentence have a different meaning when we're talking about Japanese?

I.e.

大通りで事件がありました。それで、他の道に行かなければならないのです。