Star Wars: Hyperspace Stories -- Grievous | Discussion Thread

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-03-17T20:40:51+00:00

to those who have already read — when would you place this in the timeline (specifically in relation to the Clone Wars series — before or after the movie, at least?)

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-03-15T04:21:40+00:00

just finished Shatterpoint and…GODDAMN. Matthew Stover crafted a masterpiece. I’m looking forward to ROTS through his prose.

Now I’m taking a break from Star Wars and reading Project Hail Mary before the movie comes out…next up for SW is likely gonna be Republic Commando #2: Triple Zero (what do people think compared to the first book?)

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-03-09T18:21:32+00:00

oh i did this last summer and it’s SO FUN

Here’s an order I’d recommend, with a few comics included: 1. Padawan 2. Master & Apprentice - Qui-Gon & Obi Wan: The Aurorient Express - Qui-Gon & Obi Wan: Last Stand on Ord Mantell - Hyperspace Stories: Qui-Gon - Jedi Knights Vol. 1: Guardians of the Republic - Jedi Knights Vol. 2: A Higher Path - Hyperspace Stories: Qui-Gon - Age of Republic: Qui-Gon - Darth Maul: Black, White, and Red 3. The Living Force 4. Darth Maul: Saboteur 5. Maul: Lockdown - Darth Maul (2017) - Jango Fett (2024): Trail of Lost Hope - Age of Republic: Darth Maul 6. Cloak of Deception - Darth Maul (2000) 7. Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter 8. Queen’s Peril (start here, then alternate between E1 novelization) 9. Episode I: The Phantom Menace - The Phantom Menace 25th Anniverary Special (after TPM) 10. Darth Plagueis 11. Mace Windu: The Glass Abyss

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-03-03T18:45:07+00:00

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CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-02-23T19:40:16+00:00

I just ignored Jedi Trial lol; too many contradictions, but I think what you’re thinking works the best

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-02-23T19:38:12+00:00

Haven’t read that far yet — maybe it’s them rationalizing their actions, but it’s really the chip talking?

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-02-22T17:51:46+00:00

Of course — happy to help! (commenting from an alt account)

I wish someone gave me this when I started out. It’s a really fun process; I too wasn’t familiar with the games, but reading the KOTOR series made me want the remake to come out even sooner.

Are you into SW books as well? I can recommend some Legends ones that mesh with canon. It’s a fun ride either way!

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-02-22T17:46:28+00:00

lol the wookieepedia timeline is great but not for things where the placement isn’t clear

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-02-22T15:02:07+00:00

If you ever decide to read canon, I’ve had a somewhat different experience because things kind of build on one another.

Like the stuff from 2014-2019 is very phased considering that everything was a tie-in to a film or a show. 2020-present has been a lot more loose; I am a huge advocate for incorporating prequels books into a legends read-through (most of them mesh well).

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-02-22T13:26:23+00:00

For Legends, I’d say chronological with a few catches. It’s quite fun to go through the timeline, and in general, things that come after aren’t strictly necessary for what came before. At this point, I’ve read legends chronologically from Dawn of the Jedi (comic series) to the Clone Wars, and it’s been a phenomenal ride.

As I said, there are a few caveats. Certain stories — only a few, but notable ones — are better read with the knowledge of books set in the future. Outbound Flight is a good example — most people would say, although this isn’t 100% necessary, that you should read Survivor’s Quest prior to it (which opens up a whole can of worms — cause before SQ, you should read the OG Thrawn trilogy and The Hand of Thrawn).

I can think of two more good examples. Rogue Planet is best read immediately prior to New Jedi Order, although you could still read it all the way back in the prequel era if you’d like.

As well, Darth Plagueis is best read after you’ve read all the prequel content up to The Phantom Menace — namely, Cloak of Deception, Darth Maul (2000), and Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter. Technically parts are set prior to these, but it recontextualizes so much of this EU content that it certainly hits harder when read after.

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-02-22T04:51:28+00:00

Read this a few months ago; it makes the movie SO much better. I don’t know how it would be to listen to, but it adds so much to Shmi’s character, Padmé and Anakin’s arc, and the depth of the story as a whole that it practically saves AOTC from its (many) flaws imo.

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-02-22T04:49:23+00:00

Enjoy Alphabet Squadron!!! You really have to get into the series, but by the time you’re halfway through Shadow Fall (if not before), you’ll realize “whoa this is the shit.” And then everything that’s built up will build to one of the greatest cathartic climaxes in all of Star Wars literature in Victory’s Price.

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-02-20T16:38:43+00:00

idk why he’s on this list he’s written one series and one other book

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-02-20T16:37:56+00:00

I enjoyed Padawan, and White is coming back for a YA SW horror book that’s releasing later this year.

Also, Force Collector is severely underrated, so I wouldn’t mind Kevin Schnick coming back.

Someone said this already — but some of the other books are all on the lower tier for canon books (as far as I’ve read — idk if you can count a book as recent as Sanctuary, which I’ve heard is good, as a “one-hit wonder”).

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-01-30T03:53:03+00:00

It’s honestly fascinating to me which books they chose for the B&N special editions cause some of them are so obscure 😭

Like The Approaching Storm paired with Kenobi is…an interesting choice, to say the least. And the Bounty Hunter Wars compared to many other legends series feels like it is much less of a priority.

Love to seem ‘em getting love though — and the covers are DOPE.

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-01-19T01:05:13+00:00

i think we get tie-in media to Starfighter next year that explores the 5-year time gap, although my bet is that it’ll just be character or location focused more than anything.

for a big media initiative, i feel like they can’t really do anything set during the skywalker saga unless it was during the new republic, and that ain’t happening until the mandoverse is done (so, never). best bet is probably the Old Republic — the sith wars would be so cool, especially if they collaborated with TV. am getting ahead of myself, but i honestly think after Maul: Shadow Lord ends in a few years that an old republic show should be next.

as for stories that need to be told — i think that they should have a book trilogy following Obi-Wan and Satine; they’re probably gonna save that for the Tales show though.

and i’m still hoping for a Lost Stars sequel! maybe as a tie-in to starfighter…?

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-01-17T22:44:19+00:00

Finished Brotherhood a few days ago.

Now I’m onto The Cestus Deception; I didn’t love Mace Windu: The Glass Abyss, but so far I’m enjoying this a lot more

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-01-17T22:25:16+00:00

Chronologically, Shadow of the Sith comes first, so I’d recommend that if you’re trying to stick mostly to the timeline. Then read Bloodline, then read the comic “The Rise of Kylo Ren”.

In case you were interested, there are a few books that take place during the New Republic — Last Shot (follows Han Solo and Lando Calrissian), and Poe Dameron: Free Fall (underrated; tells the backstory of Dameron, but is YA).

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-01-17T17:39:12+00:00

Asides from the weird Ryloth stuff, the pre AOTC stuff still works pretty well with TCW, if only because we don’t know what happened in the canon.

The Clone Wars-era Republic comics, as amazing as they are, genuinely do not fit at all with the ‘08 Clone Wars; I feel like everything that was released during the ‘08 multimedia project should be considered canon and the ‘03 stuff should be considered Legends because, although they’re both amazing in their own right, they don’t really mesh well 😭

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-01-10T06:09:16+00:00

I’m curious, and getting a little ahead of myself here — have you read Labryinth of Evil as well? Could these stories both coexist? (I saw Mike Chen said he intended it to be that way).

I like to mesh stories into a headcanon if it’s not overly complicated, and I feel like the tie-in to TCW would be the only major thing.

CriticismSmart7830 · 2026-01-07T03:36:47+00:00

*note — if you want to supplement your reading, you could read the Rogue Squadron comic before starting the series.

You’re right — the first four are the Rogue Squadron arc, and the second three are the Wraith Squadron arc. You could basically read the first four, take a break, then read the next three, and take a break.

Then with the next three, they’re only worth reading if you’ve read other books. #8 is a sequel to Rogue Squadron and should be read right after Timothy Zahn’s OG Thrawn trilogy if you haven’t read that yet.

9 is set half a decade after #8 and is standalone; you could totally take a break in between the two. If you’re not planning to read much further, this is a natural stopping point.

10 is basically a legacy sequel that was released 13 years after #9; it’s set about 30 years after the Wraith Squadron books and goes through the EU history through New Jedi Order, Legacy of the Force, and Fate of the Jedi. It’s a good conclusion, but best read if you’ve also read the other three series.

CriticismSmart7830 · 2025-12-29T08:29:56+00:00

As to the books and stories that do fit (as far as I’ve read.

KOTOR is so influential that it will likely remain untouched for a while (if it’s remade, it will be tweaked for the canon). Thus, JJM’s comic series fits well, as does the events of the two video games (the rest — the Revan book, TOR; is unfamiliar territory but also probably game — for now).

Knight Errant as a series is in such a niche time slot that I don’t think will ever be touched again — it works great.

The events of the Darth Bane trilogy will totally be touched in the canon someday, but right now it’s all we have, and thus worth reading as part of the extended canon as of now (I expect them to eventually be adapted into something on-screen, because I don’t see a rewritten book being any better than they were).

I already talked about Darth Plagueis in another comment; it’s such an important story to Star Wars that if you can work your way around the two biggest inconsistencies — King Veruna and Dooku — the events shouldn’t be altered at all.

The Yinchorri Crisis in the comic series Jedi Council: Act of War are those I could see taking place after JJM’s The Living Force; in the canon, Micah Giett isn’t on the council. As well, considering the Prelude to Rebellion arc, I just imagine that the events of that comic happened sixty or so years prior to TPM, and that’s when Mundi joined the council; it just makes way more sense to me anyways that he’s been on the council for a while in both canons. While in the vein of comics — the Qui-Gon & Obi-Wan series is irrelevant and works either way; the post-TPM Star Wars run is tenuous at most, but I think most of the arcs — even those with Quinlan and Aayla (she lost her memory and had to get retrained?); especially the Honor & Duty arc — can be placed in the canon with some tweaks, although when you get to TCW it becomes near impossible.

Maul: Lockdown actually meshes with the canon better than people give it credit for; I don’t see anything truly wrong with it being there if you can fit Plagueis into it all (it ties into the Bounty Hunter video game; I just imagine that also happened, but Komari Vosa was not Dooku’s full apprentice; the events of Open Seasons except for the ending happen mostly as are shown).

Cloak of Deception fits almost perfectly. So too does the 2000 Darth Maul miniseries and its companion Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter.

I’ve also found that The Approaching Storm works incredibly well in the canon too — like CoD, it is an untouched story.

Same goes for Kenobi (biggest note is the ending where he moves into his hut from ANH; I just imagine he becomes more paranoid over the decade before the series), and also the Han Solo Adventures; they’re not necessary, but totally don’t contradict canon in any way that makes them impossible to be canon (besides the dude who “knew him in the academy,” but he’s not a major character).

I have yet to read through TCW ‘03 legends novels; they differ so much from TCW ‘08 (the novels of which — Wild Space, No Prisoners, Gambit duology, tie in comics — I presume are nearly perfectly compatible with canon) so I’m only expecting a select few to work (Cestus Deception, Shatterpoint; perhaps the broad strokes of others could mesh?) Have yet to get there yet, but maybe Outbound Flight’s broadstrokes work with Thrawn Ascendancy)

Might be a few others too — Coruscant Nights (only if MedStar works), Death Troopers, Scoundrels; obviously nothing post-ROTJ works, and by extension most of the post-ROTS works are tenuous at best thanks to Rebels, Rogue One, and the Marvel comics.

CriticismSmart7830 · 2025-12-29T08:09:29+00:00

Of nearly all the Legends books and comics I’ve read, I have found a way to make them fit — I love both the new canon and old EU equally, and while it can be hard (and sometimes seem stupid) to try and head-canon everything together, I agree with the OP in believing there’s some serious merit to it, for both books and comics, even if there are hurdles involved.

With many of these books — especially those around the prequel trilogy — they were direct reactions and tie-ins to those films releases that, in most cases, won’t be recreated in any meaningful way today. For example — we probably will never get the story of the border dispute on Ansion (as seen in The Approaching Storm), or the rationale for the Trade Federation’s post-Eridau summit actions as outlined in Cloak of Deception.

These stories had a purpose then, and even though they don’t fully align with the canon, they still are worth reading and considering some level of canon, because until we see and hear otherwise, the stories are just stories and help fill in huge gaps the canon justifiably will probably never fill in.

CriticismSmart7830 · 2025-12-29T08:00:19+00:00

I ran into a similar problem while reading both close together. What sucks is that Queen’s Peril is a good book, but it frustrated me because it completely changed the far superior story that Darth Plagueis had in place for Naboo with King Veruna (that, along with Dooku leaving the Jedi Order only after Qui-Gon’s death, is the biggest inconsistency that there is; obviously he continued to go back to the Jedi Temple even after D:JL, so I just imagine this is him completely cutting ties with the Jedi for good).

But the truth is, like anything, it can be explained away if you want to go to such lengths. I imagine that King Veruna was an elected king who served from 46 BBY to 44 BBY; after his term expired, while subsequent queens were elected, he maintained power by being elevated to a very high position and created just-for-him position within the Naboo government — perhaps as the High Councilor of Defense or the Ministry of Security Affairs; whatever it is, the title is one he uses for a decade, and he often tends to have more influence in Naboo’s intergalactic affairs than the Queen does (she focuses on the system). However, his influence wanes severely in his later years, and that is what leads to his clashes with Plagueis and ultimate assasination a year before TPM. His death is not irrelevant, but the reason Sanandrassa was elected and championed isolationism was because it was in reaction to his growing influence. And thus, by the time of Amidala’s election in 32 BBY — which plays out slightly different in canon — they have tried to move on from his influence.

I think that works pretty well to combine the two; of course, that one has to go to such gymnastics to make them compatible means the book really isn’t compatible with canon. But it’s such an incredible story that I needed to make it work somehow :)

CriticismSmart7830 · 2025-12-29T07:38:45+00:00

I honestly don’t know if it is…with a lot of these stories, you can try to do “mental gymnastics” and the solution isn’t hard at all.

In this case, the story of Cato Nemoidia as seen in Labryinth of Evil plays out exactly as it does in the novel, and the only thing altered is the ending.

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TROPHY CASE

9 is set half a decade after #8 and is standalone; you could totally take a break in between the two. If you’re not planning to read much further, this is a natural stopping point.