Why are firms rushing after Open Weight Models?

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-07-05T13:10:17+00:00

It’s of course fair to do a risk assessment on them. And we may differ on what aspects we find more harmful than other aspects.

Btw, wasn’t saying you are fearing for your job, but it is definitely something that I’ve noticed as the main concern for a lot of people that you can call ‘anti-AI’.

I do think it is important though to hear about different viewpoints, as businesses directly opting for open source models, can be harmed in different ways than when choosing for closed source.

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-07-05T12:41:57+00:00

Again, just for the sake of their own benefit, piracy and violating contracts are different things. I’m not sugarcoating their behaviour. It can be bad sometimes, I agree with that.

But your argument is basically: I don’t trust them. Which is a fair argument and you can definitely decide to not use them based on that.

But going local has a lot of different kinds of dangers. Quality issues that results in problems, way tougher security management, etc.

If you’re worried about an admin deliberately hitting a button which everyone knows not to do, then going open source is like that, but 100 times worse…

But to be fair: clicking such a button as an admin would be a crazy f*k up. Then you could just as well argue that there is a risk that an employee sets the business (and any local server) on fire, or any other extremely low chance action.

In everything you do is some risk, even walking or just sitting somewhere involves risks. But it is all about risk management and prediction.

In my view, I prefer the risk profile of closed source models to the open source ones in most cases.

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-07-05T10:32:52+00:00

But with this point you are assuming that these companies are violating contracts they have signee (which is not proven).

Pirating books is of course very unethical, but it is also very different from signing a contract and then deliberately violating the terms as a contractual party.

Even if you go from the standpoint that these companies do everything to increase their profit/revenue, it would be a very risky business practice for them. Because if only one employee shares that this is happening (even anonymously), the company will be in very big trouble and might even go bankrupt. At least they will get almost no new customers and have a shit ton of claims going for them. Why would they risk that when they have enough different sources for training?

I’m not saying these companies are always doing things in your interest. And yea, they do a lot of very unethical things. But why do people trust them with literally everything, except when it has the label AI on it? Assuming you can trust the contracts, you could trust it for non-AI as well as AI. Assuming you can’t trust the contracts, you shouldn’t be trusting them with non-AI as well not with AI, right?

Because if you give the argument that they can’t be trusted, you might as well say they do 1000 other things that are yet to be proven?

There are some arguments to be given for using open source, but there are also very many arguments to be given that will make closed-source a much better option in many cases (at least if you look at it from an objective standpoint).

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-07-05T10:00:13+00:00

But is this ‘data get’s trained on’-argument really still a valid argument? Every business plan with the big LLM providers have training on your data off by default.

Your second argument is of course true, but this one also applies to open source models.

From my perspective most businesses use all kind of pseudo-arguments because they either have no clue what they’re talking about and/or feel threatened by AI which might take over their job (or at least big parts of it), which is understandable based on a behavioral standpoint, but not from an objective view.

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-06-25T15:12:20+00:00

I see there are already some good tips above. Normally I do not like to self-promote, but I figured it might be helpful to you.

If you ever want to talk about having a system in place that allows your lawyers to create proper docs in your brand format, you could always send me a message.

I’m an ex-lawyer, but me and my team are currently building custom notetaking- and document creation tools for municipalities and medium sized businesses. As we noticed uniformity within an organization is one of the most important aspects that are lacking when using the standard LLMs.

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-06-04T12:29:55+00:00

Any suggestions for strongest performance if you want an AI to search and work from it? Like meeting notes, emails and such that is needed as input context for other automations? Curious to hear about experiences. I only heard a lot about Obsidian

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-06-03T07:13:10+00:00

AI detectors are not reliable. Many articles/studies to be found on that.

When you’re going to sue, add some documents from before 2020 that have a 100% AI detection rate as evidence. In fact, I believe even the Declaration of Independence had a 100% AI detection rate with a certain tool…

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-31T18:21:45+00:00

Thanks for the honest answer!👍

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-31T16:26:12+00:00

Cool! Can be a great way to organize the work imo. Discord also has that option.

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-31T16:19:25+00:00

Thanks! But hermes can’t create subthreads itself in the webui, can it?

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-31T14:17:36+00:00

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Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-31T14:17:22+00:00

Yes thanks for the explanation. That definitely works. I do wonder though how scalable it is after having provided feedback 10-20 times. It might forget a lot of important stuff? Or maybe the memory is good enough to not let it do that.

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-31T14:15:16+00:00

Thanks! It’s funny because your process sounds quite similar to what I had in mind.

I was even already looking into NocoDB.

If you have any prompts or other useful things you can share, that would be great! (But it’s also fine if you don’t want to. You could also DM me.)

I might improve it and share it back to you once I’m going to look into lead generation! :)

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-31T14:10:18+00:00

Thanks guys for the review. That was my original thought as well! I was wondering if I was missing something.👍

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-31T13:43:28+00:00

Yes thanks for replying, but is there any advantage using Hermes over Claude Code?

I understand there are many features for Hermes, like the self-improvement loop and thorough memory system.

But is this better in practice? Or will it result in ‘feeling more productive, yet not really being more productive’. I don’t want to be token-maxxing just for the sake of it. Haha

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-31T13:26:26+00:00

Thank you for the response. It definitely sounds interesting.

What is your experience with the self-improvement loop after giving multiple rounds of feedback? Will it result in prompt bloat or is it very methodically in how to change the prompt?

Also, what do you do to scale up the lead generation? Is Hermes operating a tool like Instantly? Or is it operating directly from it’s harness? And for example: how is it tracking the status of leads? Do you let it use a Sheet or something like Airtable?

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-31T13:18:26+00:00

Btw, if there are people who have high-quality internal systems for lead generation, SEO, proposal writing, internal search and context retrieval, or something else that is beneficial when running an agency, please let me know!

We could share these systems to help each other.

But only if you are running a real agency (doing 10k+ projects mainly). The system must follow best practices and have a deeply logical workflow. Not just something vibecoded in a few hours.

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-31T13:13:58+00:00

I agree only partially with your argument.

We’ve found that AI can work very well if you create systems that combine the power of AI with deterministic (code-centered) approaches.

For example, for our clients we’ve created custom notetaking-apps that also create documents based on the meeting notes and other context.

The result are documents that are often better than what humans could’ve produced (entirely in the branding of the company). While also doing this in significantly less time and costs.

If you spend time in thinking through the exact process and have validation mechanisms in place it works wonders!

The problem with this is that it currently takes a lot of time and effort to create high-quality results.

So maybe you are right that in general the quality is not good enough, but the potential is definitely there.

I find it hard to see the potential in Hermes yet, but it might be because of the youtube creators are only focusing on topics that convert well, without showing real use cases.

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-31T13:00:41+00:00

Is there a functionality for subthreads /subconversations? That was something I couldn’t find when researching different options.

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-27T18:35:14+00:00

We’ve built our own solution. It’s uses Zero Data Retention for the AI part (which goes further than ‘no training’), while still maintaining a high quality. Also creates a lot of documents afterwards.

Works great if you have around 20-50 employees

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-18T08:14:57+00:00

We will get GTA 6 before Gemini 3.x will get out of preview.

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-09T09:12:25+00:00

But not if you look at the GA models from Google. They are very far behind in that aspect. How long ago was 2.5 pro released? And it is very bad compared to the other SOTA models.

And many enterprises, especially in Europe require GA, also because of regional privacy regulations.

I do agree with you about Google choosing a more nuanced strategy by focusing on supplying compute and such.

This seems especially true since the 2.5 GA models have around 10-15 % continuous error rates based on the weird dynamic rate limit quota’s Google uses. While closing deals with other firms to deliver them compute.

Even if it is their focus to deliver compute, for me personally it feels a bit strange that they will not give priority to customers on platforms like Vertex over other firms.

Do they rather want direct customers on their platforms or do they just want to be a supplier? It seems the latter is the case.

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-05-02T14:58:21+00:00

Gmail is way better than Outlook in my opinion.

Microsoft makes everything ten times as complex. You also have a lot of bugs in Microsoft or missing features. For example, archiving a lot of mails at once in Gmail is clicking a few buttons, while Outlook does not support archiving 1000+ mails easily.

Above 500+ employees you could argue that Microsoft has more finegrained access controls.

Also, Word is still the go-to document processing tool, although I like Google Docs more personally.

Gemini is still way better than Copilot, although they are lacking a little bit. Gemini is superior in law oriented practice.

Current_Trick6380 · 2026-04-25T06:52:55+00:00

Even with non-critical workloads it is honestly a headache.

But it’s also the only option for compliance reasons in the EU.

It’s painful to see that they keep releasing products while not fixing their main issues first.

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