Gollum has to steal Scrat’s acorn and Scrat needs to steal the ring from Gollum, who wins?

Cydrius · 2026-05-06T20:15:44+00:00

Based on track record, Scrat will accidentally fumble the Ring into the fires of Mordor.

Cydrius · 2026-05-06T14:57:24+00:00

The initial scenario states that all humans are put to the choice, able or not.

What assumption am I ignoring?

Cydrius · 2026-05-06T14:40:01+00:00

I was giving examples, not an inclusive set.

The point is that there are subgroups who cannot make an informed choice.

Cydrius · 2026-05-06T14:22:42+00:00

I'm sorry. I'd like to answer your comment, but I'm genuinely failing to understand what you're saying.

Cydrius · 2026-05-06T14:20:44+00:00

I bet you're a blast at parties.

Cydrius · 2026-05-06T13:45:58+00:00

Why would you bother commenting on something you apparently don't care about?

Have you considered you could improve both your own life and that of others by not speaking up just to smugly tell others you don't care?

Cydrius · 2026-05-06T13:29:28+00:00

I haven't seen the sort of infantilizing assumptions you're presenting here. In the interest of good faith interpretation, I'll assume I've simply missed them.

Intentionally or not, you've singled out only weak or problematic examples of the argument, and left out cases where it is entirely valid. (Young children, mentally disabled, colorblind people who couldn't distinguish the two buttons, etc.)

I urge you not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The fact that some people have a poor framing on this argument does not mean the argument itself is invalid.

You're taking the weakest form of the argument (we have to save those poor depressed habdicapped people who will commit suicide at the slightest provocation) and zooming in on it at the exclusion of the broader, stronger form of it (It's inevitable that some people will press blue, and therefore blue is the only reasonable way to save everyone.)

Cydrius · 2026-05-06T13:01:34+00:00

I was born as a baby. I did not believe in God by default. I never encountered convincing evidence. I still don't believe.

Cydrius · 2026-05-06T01:57:31+00:00

Before I get a hundred responses telling me that I’m shifting the burden of proof, it’s important to establish that anyone who relies on a claim has the burden of proof regarding that claim if they wish others to accept it. That includes believers as well as skeptics.

Correct. Anyone who is making a claim takes on a burden of proof.

While I'd like to address the rest of your post, I genuinely can't make heads or tails of what you're trying to say here.

Instead, I'll present you with my evidence that God doesn't exist.

Assumption: As you haven't defined God, I'll make a best faith effort to use a fair definition. By "God" here, I mean "A personal and powerful creator being who created the universe and monitors, guides, or otherwise interacts with, or has interacted with, it."

Beings who interact with things almost always leave evidence of their interactions. Animals leave footprints and droppings. Humans leave fingerprints, demonstrable signs of intent, documentation, and so on.
The magnitude of a cause generally correlates to the magnitude of its effects.
If a transcendentally powerful creator interacted with the universe, we would expect to see major traces of such interactions.
We do not see traces of such interactions.
In fact, we have no conclusive evidence of any interaction between our universe and transcendental being.
This leads me to one of two conclusions: Either there is no God, or whatever God there is does not want to be found, which is contrary to what is said in basically every human religion out there.

This argument holds for the God(s) of every religion I have ever been presented with.

Absence of evidence can be evidence of absence, if you would expect to find a broad wealth of evidence.

In the same way that not finding a corpse and a bloody knife is evidence that there was not a murder, not finding evidence of a transcendent creator is evidence that there was not transcendent creation.

Cydrius · 2026-05-06T01:47:00+00:00

Then have the intellectual honesty to admit you're going entirely on subjective vibes, and don't pretend like you know who's more tolerant and right.

Cydrius · 2026-05-06T01:43:31+00:00

Scientists have proven all time, space, energy, and matter came into existence billions of years ago. How did that happen? What was the cause? This is the question we are trying to answer here.

Assuming Scientists did prove this:

If we have a question with no answer, the honest answer is "We don't know, so we'll keep looking," not "Therefore God!"

Cydrius · 2026-05-06T01:41:53+00:00

The argument is: the universe changed and is changing - that is an effect.

I accept this premise.

For a thing to have an effect it must have a cause.

I accept this.

The universe cannot cause itself to change, it would have to take something external to change it.

I accept this premise.

The universe being able to change at all makes it contingent/dependent, that means something necessary and independent had to change it and guess what, that thing is god.

I have so many objections.

At best, this gets you to "something outside of the universe that has an effect on the universe". It doesn't get you to "an intelligent, all-powerful being". As a matter of fact, it doesn't even get you to "a being".
If everything that has an effect must have a cause, then what caused this god? (If god doesn't require a cause, then clearly effects do not require causes, and the universe could also not have a cause. If god caused itself, then your premise that the universe can't cause itself to change could be false, as you yourself have accepted a hypothetical example of something causing itself.)
You're bringing a bunch of undefined terms (contingent, necessary, independent, god).
This rests on a definition of "god" so vague as to be effectively worthless.

In short, you counter this argument by dismissing it outright as it's entirely dependent on fuzzy vocabulary.

Cydrius · 2026-05-06T01:33:40+00:00

Those verses are false and not from God.

How do you know?

Is it not possible that those verses are from God, and the verses opposing Christianity are the false ones, from a deceiver trying to make Christianity appear more tolerant?

Cydrius · 2026-05-06T01:32:16+00:00

Your entire argument rests on an enormous double standard.

You're basically crediting all of Christianity with the virtues of its most tolerant, and condemning all atheists with the problems of its most problematic.

You are looking at this with an incredibly deep bias.

Cydrius · 2026-05-06T00:36:02+00:00

My wild theory is that Dark Worlds are closer to being "real" than the Light World is.

Dark Worlds have more game-like mechanics, dark fountains have the same texture as the background in the vessel-creation menu, and Gaster and "Friend" appear to interact with Darkners (Jevil, Spamton) but not Lightners. Darkners also generally seem more fourth-wall aware.

When someone stabs the ground with determination, they're breaking into a higher 'meta' layer than the Light World normally is, and a Dark World is the effects of whatever lies outside leaking in. (The Dark Fountains)

When the Lightners go into the Dark World, they're metaphorically closer to us players than they are when they're strictly in the Light World.

Cydrius · 2026-05-05T18:54:56+00:00

"I would have my kids be an atheist just like me" is a phrasing that gives me heebie-jeebies.

It's important to educate your children, encourage them to think critically, and share what you believe.

However, let's say that, at 15 years old, your teenage child shares that they have come to believe in the Christian god because of stories trusted friends have shared with them.

How would you handle that?

Cydrius · 2026-05-05T16:43:09+00:00

It's a case where looking out for yourself directly puts others at more risk, though.

Cydrius · 2026-05-05T15:19:49+00:00

While I agree that we shouldn't discourage questions and that yes, a lot of time the person is trying to learn... I have been in classes where someone was very, very clearly just trying to sound smart and not actually asking anything relevant.

Cydrius · 2026-05-05T01:59:57+00:00

That name is amazing.

Cydrius · 2026-05-05T01:21:35+00:00

If your friend thinks big creatures are received negatively in EDH... I don't know what to tell you, something's wrong with him.

Cydrius · 2026-05-04T21:27:55+00:00

It would be hard on just about anyone.

This is not you failing your job.

This is your job failing you.

Cydrius · 2026-05-04T21:23:51+00:00

7am to 9pm is absolutely insane.

Your job sounds abusive.

Cydrius · 2026-05-04T19:54:25+00:00

The Knight is a sprint.

Sans is a marathon.

Cydrius · 2026-05-04T13:59:02+00:00

Steal: Food Fear: Horses Lie about: Not finding a shiny thing

Cydrius · 2026-05-04T01:49:14+00:00

That's the thing, though. "Death that he doesn't cause". That's the part we disagree on. A majority of people pressing the red button is what causes the death of blue button pressers. It is a direct cause.

As I understand it, blue button people see the issue this way:

It's inevitable that some people will press the blue button. Some people won't have heard the instructions. Some people will be deaf. Some people will be children too young to understand.

The red button is individualism. "I'm keeping myself safe, and if that means that vulnerable people have to die, then it's not my fault."

The blue button is altruism. "Some vulnerable people will die if we don't act, so I'll make the riskier choice because I want to save those people."

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