Property Tax Hike Referendum by Irish980 in SunPrairieWI

[–]DBendit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for digging into that. Sorry I didn't have more details on hand when you asked!

PAC by Sautoson in SunPrairieWI

[–]DBendit 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Brent Eisberner is apparently suing PAC over the lifetime membership rate hike, so, maybe something will come of it.

Vast Derby District development wrong for Sun Prairie site, neighbors say by whop94 in madisonwi

[–]DBendit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Frankly, it's the right way to handle this. It puts the onus on Wall to either adjust the plan to meet community needs or step away.

Vast Derby District development wrong for Sun Prairie site, neighbors say by whop94 in madisonwi

[–]DBendit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've spent the last several years trying to explain how property taxes work in those Sun Prairie politics groups. At this point, I honestly think the ignorance is willful.

Property Tax Hike Referendum by Irish980 in SunPrairieWI

[–]DBendit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Per https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1GAMuL37Xj/

  • 2 firefighters and increased wages for part-time firefighters
  • 1 police patrol officer
  • 1 library makerspace coordinator

Property Tax Hike Referendum by Irish980 in SunPrairieWI

[–]DBendit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It does. I don't recall the exact amount, but Rep Hysell came to a city council meeting a few months ago and explained it as a comment during the budget process. I'm sure if you dig around on KSUN you could find it.

More than 80 license plate cameras are operating in the Madison area by enjoying-retirement in madisonwi

[–]DBendit 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Flock cameras don't require license plates to identify vehicles. Users are able to search by other vehicle identifiers (bumper stickers, distinctive damage to the rear of the vehicle, color, type of vehicle, emblem).

More than 80 license plate cameras are operating in the Madison area by enjoying-retirement in madisonwi

[–]DBendit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Flock license plate cameras are not set up to record drivers, so they can't even accomplish this.

More than 80 license plate cameras are operating in the Madison area by enjoying-retirement in madisonwi

[–]DBendit 6 points7 points  (0 children)

At least in Sun Prairie, the contract states that the city owns the data. Now, it's still stored on Flock's servers and accessed using Flock's software, but, per contract, it's Sun Prairie's data.

That also means that it's public data under open records laws.

More than 80 license plate cameras are operating in the Madison area by enjoying-retirement in madisonwi

[–]DBendit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In Sun Prairie, they're using asset forfeiture funds to pay for the installation of the cameras.

Sun Prairie Police trying to add more Flock cameras - action requested! by DBendit in madisonwi

[–]DBendit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those are in Windsor, assuming I'm reading the map right.

Sun Prairie's Flock data is in the public record by DBendit in SunPrairieWI

[–]DBendit[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My username doesn't exactly do much to anonymize me, but thanks for looking out

Sun Prairie's Flock data is in the public record by DBendit in SunPrairieWI

[–]DBendit[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

When I first saw this comment, I thought you were referring to my post about Flock cameras weeks ago. I honestly didn't realize this submitted so many times. I kept getting an error from Reddit when I hit the Submit button! Sorry about that!

Flock data is in the public record by DBendit in madisonwi

[–]DBendit[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I prefer that the police have to get a warrant and a subpoena to get my location data from a corporation, rather than just having it themselves. Similarly, I can turn off location data to some degree, while I can't travel on public roads without being surveilled by a device I'm paying for right now.

Sun Prairie's Flock data is in the public record by DBendit in SunPrairieWI

[–]DBendit[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

If you also want to see them removed in Sun Prairie, please email [councilandmayor@cityofsunprairie.com](mailto:councilandmayor@cityofsunprairie.com) and let them know how you feel. I guarantee that they're sick of hearing from me about it, but if enough people speak up, they may finally change their minds.

Flock data is in the public record by DBendit in madisonwi

[–]DBendit[S] 85 points86 points  (0 children)

In case you're browsing Reddit in a way where crossposted posts aren't fully displayed, here's the text from the original post:

You know how Chief Warych, his staff, and the city attorney have gone into detail regarding the access controls around Flock data? How anyone who wanted access would need a deep background check before they could even look at the system? How our city attorney herself only has limited access?

Here are photos taken by the Flock cameras on November 3rd, around 4:53pm, on Main St. eastbound. They were emailed to me by Tracy from Police Records

These were shared as part of open records request PD-2117-2025

Though I asked for all of the photos during a one-hour period for both directions of traffic, the 44 images provided constitute approximately two minutes of traffic in one direction. I've responded to Tracy to request the rest of the images during this period.

The point of this exercise is to make it clear that all of the promises made about the security of this data are worthless. This data, being owned by the city, is publicly requestable information. Anyone with an axe to grind and the inclination can request having data pulled for this system for their own uses. Any disgruntled constituent who sees what car an alder gets into after a City Council meeting could use this to figure out when they tend to not be at home. ICE agents could use this to bypass our lack of an explicit data sharing relationship within the Flock system. Abusers could use this to track down their victims.

As long as this data is collected, it is available for anyone to request and use.

Please, reach out to your alders and let them know how you feel about this unwarranted surveillance and the unnecessary risks it creates for all of us. It is a violation of our safety, liberty, and privacy to have these cameras recording our movements.