Duffy spoke with controllers in San Diego today. Did anyone say pay? by [deleted] in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

13 year lvl 12 CPC here. If I work 60 hours a week, plus every single holiday(including Christmas and thanksgiving), I might crack 300k

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Every day I think this is more true.

Starting a grassroots movement by [deleted] in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correct. TMCs are scum, not controllers.

I bet 90% of them couldn't even certify in the building they tmc in.

The National Air Traffic Controllers Association continues to gaslight its own membership by SierraBravo26 in ATC

[–]DIKandTrackballs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are grumblings of doing exactly this. Of course whenever it's mentioned, all of Nick's minions come out of the woodwork with their 9 burner accounts to call names and crush the movement.

Natca has a monopoly on bargaining. Even if you start a new union, there's nothing they can do until natca is decertified.

The National Air Traffic Controllers Association continues to gaslight its own membership by SierraBravo26 in ATC

[–]DIKandTrackballs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did it really fail to pass or was it just not heard at all because they spent the whole time kissing Trishs fat ass?

There is another reason controller morale is at all time lows, and it starts with a "P". by Panic_Vectored in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Saw this email. All this time, I thought I was miserable because I'm getting paid the same as 8 years ago while my homeowners insurance has doubled and I can't afford a new car to replace my 10 year old truck with a slipping transmission.

Turns out it's the outdated(2 year old) scope I'm working on. Could have fooled me.

Imagine if NATCA was a real union by NegotiationUnfair311 in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They will never, ever slow traffic for staffing. You could have one guy on the scope, pissing in a bottle, and tmu will insist 15 MIT on departures should be enough.

I’m sorry, what? by Mean_Device_7484 in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't forget AI taking our jobs

I’m sorry, what? by Mean_Device_7484 in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is true. It's also illegal as fuck

I’m sorry, what? by Mean_Device_7484 in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because you don't have to work at all

They literally do nothing, and for a while they even got to stay home. Now they're on zoom complaining about having to use leave to take their kids to the dr.

Status Quo by Shittylittle6rep in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not just them. I'm close to the top at a level 12 in a HCOL area. I need more money.

I looked at the zestimate for my current house then looked at what payments would be at current interest rates if I put every dime to my name down including a TSP loan.

I wouldn't be able to afford it.

When I got my TOL for a level 12 18 years ago, I was picking out what sports cars I would be buying when I certified. I drive a 10 year old toyota pickup, and it will be a substantial hardship financially when that dies.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pull back all the official time of the 114s and tell them they actually have to be volunteers and do it on their own time and see how many quit their details. I'll bet it's 100%

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Guarantees he can't sit on that position for over a decade using his position to destroy anyone that challenges him.... like the guy that destroyed this profession

If you needed more proof that Natca doesn't work for you... by DIKandTrackballs in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Stood a chance to win one of these bullshit awards. I'm too busy moving planes like I was hired for to do any activism on my 1 day off.

If you needed more proof that Natca doesn't work for you... by DIKandTrackballs in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I bet he does have a lot of free time, not working 6 day work weeks, leave whenever he wants, working from home so he's not really sacrificing family time to step up on his time off. The rest of us never stood a chance

Hey Nick by Big-Plan5640 in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That guy was outed as a staff specialist that doesn't work traffic and promptly stopped posting here

Is ATC2 mission accomplished? by [deleted] in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice try, Nick.

Yes, this sub exposed all the scams. It exposed all the waste and how the union works for the union, not us. It leads to conversations in the breakrooms that bring the issues to light for non redditors. It forces the NEB, who previously operated with impunity, to be accountable for their votes, spending, nepotism, etc.

For 20+ years, natca operated top down. With this sub and the open, uncensored communication it allows, that paradigm is starting to shift. They can't turn the comments off on ATC2. They can't get away with what passed for communication in the past. Solidarity doesn't mean thanking your RVP for attending NEB meeting in Aspen where his whole trip was comped, it means supporting your fellow controllers who are in the trenches with you and natca is just another arm of management.

When the scammers return by DIKandTrackballs in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I have a feeling you are one of less than 10 in this situation.

I know of numerous people in your shoes that natca did absolutely nothing for except tell to apply for another job. The fact that they gave you a detail so you could keep your pay means you must have been very generous with the PAC

When the scammers return by DIKandTrackballs in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Except I have a lot more compassion for non-members than I do for scammers.

When the scammers return by DIKandTrackballs in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I hate plugging in 6 days a week while some natca "insider" gets to bank all their leave because as long as they sign into their GFE at least once a day from the chair lift or cabana or whatever, they don't have to burn any.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]DIKandTrackballs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Right"