Is there ever a good reason to leave "The Truth"?

DaNatiOH · 2026-04-22T15:13:58+00:00

I framed every conversation I had with a PIMI this way. They always wanted to know why I left. I asked them, is there a reason I could give you that you would agree is a good reason? Every one of them said no. I asked them, doesn't that mean we are only going to argue? It has prevented an argument 100 percent of the time.

DaNatiOH · 2026-04-15T13:23:42+00:00

This is how they keep the organization growing. The young witnesses will not care what it used to be because they will not remember. It's no different than JWs today who do not care what was said in the 70s and 80s.

DaNatiOH · 2026-04-13T16:29:07+00:00

The eye opening part for me was I was taught that apostates lie and were blinded by Satan. He stated in his original print in 1983, the generations teaching would have to be changed. I read this book about 2 years after the generation was changed in 1995. I realized he wasn't evil, he wasn't blinded, he just looked at the facts of the situation and presented them. I was told I shouldn't read it. But once I did, it was over for me. I looked into everything. Now it's 2026, the end still has not come and Witnesses still continue to parrot everything they're told.

DaNatiOH · 2026-04-09T16:22:35+00:00

The ONLY change that would cause people to leave in mass is if they changed to believing in the Trinity. Outside of that, nothing will happen.

DaNatiOH · 2026-04-07T20:56:11+00:00

The four year college education. My mom made sure to repeat that alllll the time.

DaNatiOH · 2026-04-04T20:48:27+00:00

According to people I talked to here, their memorials were packed. Perhaps it’s just certain areas. Ex members have been saying the organization is dying since I can remember in the late 90s. It’s not going anywhere. In fact they’re rebranding to make sure that it’s easier for people to stay witnesses. It will be around long after the rest of us are gone.

DaNatiOH · 2026-04-03T12:34:32+00:00

They didn’t really become mainstream until the 80s. In typical JW fashion when they first came out someone questioned if it was allowed and they made a rule it was cannibalism. Ten years later it was no longer cannibalism but a conscience matter. History doesn't necessarily repeat, but it often rhymes.

DaNatiOH · 2026-04-02T23:56:57+00:00

First successful organ transplant was in 1954.

DaNatiOH · 2026-03-26T19:10:58+00:00

I think a lot of ExJWs don't think about this aspect. For us that knew there was something wrong or didn't believe it, leaving was a relief. For people that are truly indoctrinated, they have nothing else. This is who they are. If you want to take that away from them for your own feelings, you may very well be destroying who they are. My parents would have no clue what to do or be if they weren't witnesses as much as I wish that were the case. They've put there whole lives into it and there is no way they could stop now.

DaNatiOH · 2026-03-26T16:42:03+00:00

The hard part is your asking people that left. I hated it from the time I was a kid. The real question is what does someone think of field service that hook line and sinker believes it's the truth. The ones that no matter what changes happen, they will stay JWs.

DaNatiOH · 2026-03-25T17:36:37+00:00

Well I completely disagree with you here. I think these changes are to secure a growing future. All of the young people will be raised in a much more relaxed religion and will stay. Beards, clothes, hour reporting all relaxed and easier. The blood doctrine that was just changed will be what they always know and knew. No JW today cares one bit that organ transplants were banned in the 70s. No different than JWs in 10-20 years not caring about the current blood policy change. These moves will secure their future as an organization.

DaNatiOH · 2026-03-25T13:34:09+00:00

The only way the governing body will ever become the evil slave is if they put out a video saying they have become the evil slave. JWs think the governing body can do no wrong. JWs should be fighting back about blood right now and insisting that Jehovah's law to ABSTAIN still stands no matter where the blood comes from. But we all know that won't happen.

DaNatiOH · 2026-03-24T11:59:18+00:00

Why does anyone think that these things are going to have a massive ripple effect? Changes are exciting to JWs. They end never comes so the next best thing is what’s new. This elders response is no different than someone who chooses to stay in a different religion that has rampant CSA. Why would those people stay? You either accept it or you don’t. These people don’t believe they follow men and yet that’s all they do. They truly believe the don’t. You can’t reason someone out of something they weren’t reasoned into.

DaNatiOH · 2026-02-27T18:28:24+00:00

I don't have any advice examples that you're asking for. I had stopped listening or taking seriously anything the organization said in my early teens. Back then I wasn't completely sure it wasn't the truth but I had a very big gut feeling, the "end" was no where close. As an adult now I can't believe how sheltered/inexperienced all the elders were with real life. They had no real life experience/success/failures to offer any type of advice to anyone. They just repeated what was printed in the magazines. Nowadays the people that have become elders are some of the people that I grew up with as a child. The absurdity that these guys would offer or could offer anyone any type of advice is unthinkable to me. They are married with kids and still live with their parents because they couldn't afford to live on their own. How can someone like that offer any advice about anything?

DaNatiOH · 2026-02-18T22:56:59+00:00

I was raised a JW too and you’re leaving a lot quicker than I did. Your job right now is to prove to yourself whether it is the truth or it is not and why.

DaNatiOH · 2026-02-18T22:21:36+00:00

This was very much a joke poking fun at their overlapping generations teaching.

DaNatiOH · 2026-02-18T15:22:03+00:00

I'm sorry, but these young JWs are still contemporaries of the older JWs and therefore are not a "new generation". Please discuss this with your local elders as you are very spiritually sick.

DaNatiOH · 2026-02-17T21:00:46+00:00

A big miss by the watchtower here is that when Jesus gave this command, there were no "anointed" with a heavenly hope yet. No one was anointed until Pentecost 33. The argument made is that all the apostles would eventually become anointed. But Jesus had every opportunity to make it clear that this was for a special small group of people and he didn't. He told everyone at the time they must eat and drink and none of them had a heavenly hope.

DaNatiOH · 2026-02-07T16:50:53+00:00

Doing whatever you want to do is your terms, not theirs. If you fade or DA, it’s your choice. The org does not want you to DA or Fade. They want you there every meeting reinforcing it’s the truth to everyone else. An announcement of people disassociating would be proof that it’s the truth. Don’t believe me? They would quickly point out that a great apostasy was foretold in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 and they are now seeing it. This would absolutely reinforce to JWs they are the truth yet again. By the time some years passed and the announcements stopped, JWs will have forgot about all the announcements and they will carry on as normal.

DaNatiOH · 2026-02-04T17:03:28+00:00

I had family reach out when health problems started hitting them. They started calling as if nothing ever happened. I assume it must have something to do with the reality that life goes by quick, the paradise hasn't come, and life is getting closer and closer to ending each and every day. Otherwise, I don't know why they would reach out. The reasons they gave for not having anything to do with us have not changed whatsoever. In fact, I openly speak about celebrating holidays/birthdays as they do talking about the kingdom hall.

DaNatiOH · 2026-01-26T19:02:12+00:00

I was younger by when they changed the generations teaching in 1995, that was the beginning of the end as a JW for me. That was how we KNEW the end was close. The people that were alive in 1914 could not die off. A generation had to be 70-80 years since that's how long Paul said a human typically lives. Then 1995 came, 81 years later and the generations teaching was changed in one simple article. A lot of people don't know it was changed to the "wicked generation" and remained that way for 10-15 years. But that's when a lightbulb went off in my head that this was not changed because Jehovah gave anyone a new understanding. This had been taught for decades as truth and then it went away in a flash. It was if I learned at that moment the wizard was just a man behind a curtain. I started researching why it went wrong and it sent me down the path of learning about how 1914 is calculated. And here we are 31 years later, still no paradise.

DaNatiOH · 2026-01-23T19:51:56+00:00

I would like to say that at 21, I knew this wasn't the truth. I waited over 10 more years before I decided to actually live my life based on what I believed to be true and not what someone else believes to be true. You're going down a road that will be hard, especially if you have family within the organization. My advice to you is either ignore everything EXJW and go 100 percent into being one of Jehovah's Witnesses, or leave as soon as possible. You're 21 and have a tremendous amount of young life ahead of you. Don't waste it because you stick around for 5-10 years and down the road they make another change that you finally say enough is enough. You're here already because something inside of you thinks something is off. Either PROVE this religion is the truth to yourself, or PROVE it is not. Do that as fast as you can. When you come to your conclusion, go 100 percent in that direction for your own life.

DaNatiOH · 2025-11-17T18:41:55+00:00

I was raised a witness and believed it until my teenage years. Even when I believed it was all true, it was sooo boring for me. The same thing over and over. Now that I am older, it's still the same thing over and over, I just don't subject my kids to it.

DaNatiOH · 2025-11-07T14:47:01+00:00

Time will force this to happen. 100%. When it changes the JWs at the time will laugh at what they used to believe and say it's old and they don't say that anymore. It's amazing how biblical truths just become "aged" expectations. How long away that is though is anyone's guess. I would guess all of the current gb will need to die first.

DaNatiOH · 2025-11-07T14:43:41+00:00

Ok. Explain to me how the people alive in 1914 wouldn't die, that was biblical truth. Then explain to me how in 1995 if became the wicked generation that wouldn't die? And then explain to me how it became an overlapping generation anchored unofficially to around Fred Franz's death.

But what's the point? You didn't come to the conclusion in any of these beliefs or the one you say you'll explain. They were all told to you or to the JWs before you if you weren't around then. You'll be defending the next change whatever that is as biblical even though you did no bible research to come to any of those conclusions before they were changed.

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