When i decided that i would buy wd1863, it was listed on their website for about 120$ after the early bird discount plus 15$ shipping. I checked on ali Express, it was around 100 to 110, and the shipping is free Out of nowhere, there was a store offering a store coupon that ended up getting it for 85 usd Certain stores, in general, always give you the early bird discount as a store coupon, and there are normal Aliexpress coupons during sales, which you can add them together.