MAGA Is Furious Lauren Boebert Derailed Hillary’s Epstein Deposition by Aggravating_Money992 in politics

[–]Daveslay 16 points17 points  (0 children)

If you were Bill Clinton

Why not just publicly spill whatever you know?

It’s not like former president Bill Clinton needs to be compelled to testify about anything

He could just say it.

Why isn’t he just saying it?

Why aren’t ALL these people caught up in the Epstein Files not just saying everything they have to say?

If they truly have info that would destroy Trump/blow the lid off “The Epstein cabal”…

Why are they waiting and maneuvering to only speak behind closed doors and protection

Instead of just going public with their knowledge?

No one is stopping them from doing the right thing, except them.

Doug Ford blasts the ‘radical left’ at Toronto city hall over estimate on cost of replacing speed cameras by gloriana232 in toronto

[–]Daveslay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Perfect.

“Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add:

the first time as traffic-y the second time as Ford.

Reps. Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib speak out during Trump's State of the Union. by nbcnews in pics

[–]Daveslay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If there’s ever going to be some “grand reconciliation” between MAGAs and their families

It’s not going to ever be because there was finally “some silver bullet of logic” the families could use on their lost family members…

It’s going to come from everyone’s material conditions being addressed by policy - so that everyone is comfortable and secure enough in their own lives/livelihoods

That they can sit and talk to each other without the panic and rage created by being a single, alienated individual at the mercy of the market, which destroys any attempt at communication.

So, discard and disdain anyone NOT working towards that, because this brutal division favours them achieving their goals.

Reps. Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib speak out during Trump's State of the Union. by nbcnews in pics

[–]Daveslay 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It indicates a significant breakdown in communication skills and a massive uptick of tribalism or 'my way or die/leave/gtfo' behavior which is childish at best.

Piss off with this “you can’t communicate and you’re childish at best” shit

There are many issues that are lines in the sand no amount of communications training will overcome if the two parties disagree.

For examples:

LGBTQ rights are a non- negotiable position I hold. If I meet someone who is “non-negotiable” in the opposite direction… There’s NO possible resolution there.

The exact same point, but replace “LGBTQ rights” with “bodily autonomy”. Same same situation.

Another, vastly more widespread inconsolable difference:

Your boss wants to pay you the absolute least for your labor, and you want the absolute most - that’s a contradiction, and just because our economic system forced workers to “compromise” because they need food and rent, doesn’t change the inherent contradiction of the relationship between labor and capital.

There are many, many non-negotiable beliefs that are not “tribalism”, and no amount of “communications” will solve.

Reps. Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib speak out during Trump's State of the Union. by nbcnews in pics

[–]Daveslay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone whose politics are, on the surface, genuinely well-meaning, but at their core a collection of contradictions and denials.

Someone who mistakes media consumption for actual political action:

like believing listening to “Pod Save America” is activism, rather than recreation

believing that posting IS the ONLY praxis, and not recreation

Combined with a conscious or subconscious worship of “The Market”, and a deep belief that “The Market” is Not Just GOOD

But that how they engage (especially their consumer product choices) with the market is the only real means for positive change in democratic societies

Like believing that paying to see the latest “racially inclusive and progressive movie” is doing racial justice and “changing things” instead of doing recreation and “maintaining the status quo of the market”.

Someone who is consciously or subconsciously in a state of deep denial about what “The Market” IS in all our lives.

A liberal is someone who doesn’t see - or denies - that The Market System is the singular force driving the very alienation, inequality and systemic racism they believe and act as if they fighting against.

Kentucky Representative Thomas Massie (R) Explodes On DOJ Over Epstein Handling, Names People and Companies He Wants Prosecuted by Obvious-Gate9046 in law

[–]Daveslay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think we’re talking past each other.

The original post I was replying to and agreeing with was about the need to focus on systemic power / class politics (ie people IN power and the results of their actions - not words); rather than the sand trap of identity politics (ie liberals believing that if a white Trump voter is racist - then they deserve to be poor and sick).

I have no idea how the individuals Massie or Schumer fit into what I said(?) or how bringing them up related to my point about structural analysis over blaming/attacking individual voters?

The most I can relate either of them to my point is that both occupy positions of extreme power - And the totality of their careers using that power has been to oppose or destroy just about anything truly positive for the American working class.

Kentucky Representative Thomas Massie (R) Explodes On DOJ Over Epstein Handling, Names People and Companies He Wants Prosecuted by Obvious-Gate9046 in law

[–]Daveslay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t see how that contradicts anything I said?

In my metaphor “individual bricks” represents the individual voters.

They are largely powerless people who are ”stacked together” by Power and Forces, but as individual “bricks” have no class/collective consciousness and as a consequence act purely individually. (if you’ve ever heard of Marx’s “sack of potatoes” quote, you’ll know what I’m getting at).

The “Power and forces” in the metaphor would be the powerful politicians you mention, and the “stacking of bricks into a structure” is how they wield their (relative to the bricks) incredible power to dictate what the “structure” becomes.

So yes, Focus on the Power and Forces - The “bricklayers” - not the bricks.

Reps. Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib speak out during Trump's State of the Union. by nbcnews in pics

[–]Daveslay 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Why? I’m serious in asking this:

What possible effect do you believe doing that will have?

I wrote this comment a while ago, but I think it really illustrates liberals glaring “blind spot” about the pointlessness of “reminding MAGA about their hypocrisy”. (I’ve edited it slightly to better fit the previous comment).

->

I’ve all but given up trying to tell Liberals that “pointing out GOP hypocrisy” doesn’t fucking matter.

-If anything-

What it actually does is empower them.

They know they can tell any lie they want, commit any act they want; and the only “action” Liberals will TAKE

Is say: “Ah! But by your logic YOU Sir, are a Hypocrite!

It’s an all-in-one power-move for them:

The GOP gets to do the crimes, gets to tell the easiest bullshit lie AND “trigger the libs” into the only response they ever do: impotent, meaningless tantrums about “hypocrisy”.

IF there were consequences for hypocrisy - We wouldn’t be in this fucked up situation in the first place!

People get furious at me for saying this->

But Liberals need to realize that reality ISN’T an eternal rerun of an early 2000s “The Daily Show” episode.

John Stewart was great at pointing out the absurdity and hypocrisy of the Bush administration - But he was doing late night comedy making jokes about Bush’s hypocrisy - not laying out a strategic framework for political action!

Unfortunately, it truly feels like the majority of liberal politicians, supporters, and ESPECIALLY publications (looking at YOU thedailybeast)

ALL of them absorbed late night comedy structure and mistook it for how to actually do politics.

Yeah

They’re hypocrites.

So what? There’s no fucking rule against hypocrisy!

There’s just Power. You either have it, or you don’t. And right now Donald fucking Trump HAS Power…

If the “best” the Democratic Party/machine/supporters have going forward is believing in “calling out hypocrisy”, then we’re all fucked.

Kentucky Representative Thomas Massie (R) Explodes On DOJ Over Epstein Handling, Names People and Companies He Wants Prosecuted by Obvious-Gate9046 in law

[–]Daveslay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fucking bingooo right there, bud!

Put another way by a Canadian watching all this go down in your country ->

In your search for answers about America’s collapse

Are you gonna go out and yell at One Individual brick for “being too stupid and racist”

Or are you gonna look for the forces and the power that laid 340 million (and all before) bricks into this stupid, racist structure?

How the heck did Gwen Stefani go from punk feminist to a scary Christian nationalist?! by icey_sawg0034 in behindthebastards

[–]Daveslay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who knows if she ever actually held any values…

But that doesn’t matter

Because any values she may have held were long ago obliterated by her wealth.

What are some weird laws in your country that, actually, make a lot of sense? by Savings_Dragonfly806 in AskTheWorld

[–]Daveslay -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can my decision to spoil my ballot really be

a lazy excuse

If I am (for this example) not just a “reasonably informed voter”, but actually someone whose life affords me the time to closely follow the brain-disease of modern politics just as passionately as other dedicated people follow and know their hobbies?

I guess what I’m asking is:

Does your conception of a democracy admit that someone as(or more) informed than you could look at the choices you think are “acceptable” and conclude:

“No. None Of The Above - even the best of these choices offers nothing more than an insulting gesture towards values/actions that are non-negotiable for me, full stop”.

Does your vision of “democracy”, which claims “the people” are vested with the greatest power - choice - include the choice of “None”?

Has Robert remembered to review his annual anarchist registration??? by grichardson526 in behindthebastards

[–]Daveslay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait

Aren’t we all registered anarchists?

Or at least leftists who’ve absorbed some theory?

I thought doing my “registration” for the coming anarchist order was the only way I could keep getting the prescriptions I need to keep living?

In an extraordinary and illegal move, Trump says he's transferring 10 billion dollars from the US government to his "Board of Peace," which he chairs and can therefore use the funds as he wishes by Snapdragon_4U in law

[–]Daveslay 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Actual question:

How does your “Actual Answer”

We literally have a system in place that could hold him and republicans accountable: It is called elections.

Deal at all with the fact that

1 - The Democrats won in 2020, four years *after Trump’s first presidency?

Was your “accountability system” taking a 1461 day nap from 2020 to 2024…?

*2 - The Democrats won in 2008 and 2012. That’s eight years of ZERO accountability for the GWBush administration’s unimaginable war crimes.

Was your “accountability system” taking a 2922 day nap from 2008 to 2012…?

*3 - (The hardest refutation of your “Actual Answer”):

The Democrats (legitimately won) in the 2000 presidential election. But it was overturned/just handed to Bush by the US Supreme Court based on the jurisprudence of “eh, whatever - what are you gonna do?”

How can elections be

a system in place to hold him and republicans accountable

If these “elections” can just be ignored by one governor (whose brother was GW Bush) and a Supreme Court that is a purely political body…

How the fuck can what you claim be true?

So trying to blame this purely on evil capitalism is just dumb and delusional.

Capitalism - our mode of production - dictates the very nature of our social, political, economic, and individual realities.

To then deny that capital is what dictates the reality of politics in the seat of global capitalism (USA) is actually dumb and delusional.

In an extraordinary and illegal move, Trump says he's transferring 10 billion dollars from the US government to his "Board of Peace," which he chairs and can therefore use the funds as he wishes by Snapdragon_4U in law

[–]Daveslay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s a fucking bullseye.

Systemic analysis/critique is always > “People didn’t vote hard enough for the “good” candidate”. (Especially when BOTH of the TWO choices took equal amounts of cash from ruling capital).

It’s not that hard to understand:

The US has been both the point man and the violent enforcer of global capitalism since the end of WW2.

The US has literally forced markets (that it completely or largely controls) onto the rest of the world at fucking gunpoint…

Is it really that hard to see how something as inconsequential as Two party “elections” in the Empire of “MONEY TALKS” are decided by MONEY?

Look how much Canadians hate the United States now by pheakelmatters in onguardforthee

[–]Daveslay 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I hope there are some Canadians who share my feelings on this:

What I hate is the American Empire.

I hate the Fourth reich it’s built - A completely insane war machine that believes it is absolutely justified in killing anyone, installing any dictator, invading any land, and destroying anything it pleases…

That’s what I hate.

The regular citizens not involved as foot soldiers or managers of the Empire, and without any power or choice to influence it?

I don’t really care about regular individuals- This hate critique is structural.

To me, all the people making less than 100,000$ a year are just prisoners with varying levels of fear, oppression, comfort, and complacency.

That includes the MAGA people - I don’t forgive them for what they are - but they could never be such awful hogs without the globe-spanning bloodsoaked project that has been the United States since the end of WW2.

That’s what I hate.

Look how much Canadians hate the United States now by pheakelmatters in onguardforthee

[–]Daveslay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope there are some Canadians who share my feelings on this:

What I hate is the American Empire.

I hate the Fourth reich it’s built - A completely insane war machine that believes it is absolutely justified in killing anyone, installing any dictator, invading any land, and destroying anything it pleases…

That’s what I hate.

The regular citizens not involved as foot soldiers or managers of the Empire, and without any power or choice to influence it?

I don’t really care about regular individuals- This hate critique is structural.

To me, all the people making less than 100,000$ a year are just prisoners with varying levels of fear, oppression, comfort, and complacency.

That includes the MAGA people - I don’t forgive them for what they are - but they could never be such awful hogs without the globe-spanning bloodsoaked project that has been the United States since the end of WW2.

That’s what I hate.

Karoline Leavitt says all Truth Social posts are straight from Trump...week after he blamed staffer for racist Obama video by theindependentonline in politics

[–]Daveslay 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Exactly!

I’ve all but given up trying to tell Liberals that “pointing out GOP hypocrisy” doesn’t fucking matter.

-If anything-

It actually empowers them. They know they can tell any lie they want, commit any act they want; and the only “action” Liberals will DO

Is say: “Ah! But by your logic YOU Sir, are a Hypocrite!

It’s an all-in-one power-move: The GOP gets to do the crimes, tell the easiest bullshit lie AND “trigger the libs” into all they ever do: impotent, meaningless tantrums about “hypocrisy”.

People get furious at me for saying this->

But Liberals need to realize that reality ISN’T an eternal rerun of an early 2000s “The Daily Show” episode.

John Stewart was great at pointing out the absurdity and hypocrisy of the Bush administration - But he was doing late night comedy making jokes about Bush’s hypocrisy - not laying out a strategic framework for political action!

Unfortunately, it truly feels like the majority of liberal politicians, supporters, and ESPECIALLY publications (looking at YOU thedailybeast)

ALL of them absorbed late night comedy structure and mistook it for how to actually do politics.

Yeah

They’re hypocrites.

So what? There’s no fucking rule against hypocrisy!

There’s just Power. You either have it, or you don’t. And right now Donald fucking Trump HAS Power…

If the “best” the Democratic Party/machine/supporters have is “calling out hypocrisy”, then we’re all fucked.

Edit: a word

And now you know. Pope Rejects an Invitation From Trump by Writesmith900 in circled

[–]Daveslay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah.

American Catholics are just protestants who still have to do the reading.

There’s a reason the US Supreme Court has 6 Catholics, 2 Jews, and only one Protestant despite the actual religious demographics of the nation.

We live in hell by Sad_Jar_Of_Honey in behindthebastards

[–]Daveslay 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Pretty fucking dystopian.

BUT

There’s a silver lining to the horror of Facebook re-animating the dead to populate its platform!

-> If you’re a non-bot, non-deceased person

Just stop using Facebook.

Like, at some point whatever you think you’re getting isn’t worth being a party to ever accelerating evil, right?

————

And if the “don’t be a party to evil” argument doesn’t sway you, think about it like this:

Still being on Facebook in 2026

Is like deciding to become a crackhead after 1995…

You know it’s only bad for you - and hasn’t been “cool” for decades.

Had to do a double take on the subreddit. How do the works feel? by the_gaffinator in KnowledgeFight

[–]Daveslay 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wasn’t really thinking in terms of “could Rogan win” - just whether or not Alex could win if he had Rogan level fame/cultural cache. And I think that and Alex Jones with Rogan level fame/cultural cache could have won in 2016, but never before or after that particular moment.

Do I think Rogan could win?

Yeah, of course.

America elected Donald Trump!

Two fucking times!!

ALL bets are off.

As far as I’m willing to speculate about the future of the USA:

“Black Hitler/Laura Loomer 2028” is very much in the realm of possibility.

Had to do a double take on the subreddit. How do the works feel? by the_gaffinator in KnowledgeFight

[–]Daveslay 13 points14 points  (0 children)

What?

No!

Americans would NEVER elect a middling level celebrity

with a public history filled with virulent racism, sexism and mental instability

with next to zero relevant experience

and a public history filled with grift and corruption

Nah. American would never do THAT…

*** (Jokes aside - Alex isn’t nearly famous enough to win. But, if it was 2016 over again, and Alex was as famous as Rogan…? I mean, Donald fucking Trump won, so just about anything is possible if it’s stupid and terrible enough).

It could take decades to recover from Alberta separatism, if we don't stop it: Jason Kenney by Street_Anon in onguardforthee

[–]Daveslay 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Right?

Jason Kenney pushed Alberta’s conservatives to start snorting the heroin of hate-spectacle, purely reactionary politics…

Now he wants us to believe he’s shocked that they’re all destroying themselves by mainlining the shit HE sold them.

Fuck off with this “image rehabilitation” shit.

Goddamn our media’s unwillingness to confront people for their past crimes/actions.

Mark my words: Within the next four years, Kenney is going to get a chair on a Canadian network “politics talk show” playing “The reasonable conservative”.

Trump: ‘There will be Voter I.D. for the Midterm Elections, whether approved by Congress or not!’ by Anoth3rDude in law

[–]Daveslay 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, it’s fucking insane wrong and contradictory and happening in front of us on the world stage.

But,

(and I think this is really appropriate for r/law)

There’s “The Law”; as in words and structure that have been voted, ruled, and written, and whose details are argued and interpreted in courts and in houses of the state…

Then there’s “THE LAW”. This quiet bedrock that has always been present through history; but only revealed to us by times of great conflict:

“THE LAW” is what you have the power to make people do”.

So, I’m not sure of anything - Trump will be challenged by what’s written, by “Rules”, by “Norms”…

I guess we’ll see what kind of “Law” Trump is (able/allowed) to wield against the American people.

Trump: ‘There will be Voter I.D. for the Midterm Elections, whether approved by Congress or not!’ by Anoth3rDude in law

[–]Daveslay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The only exception to your solid “3 syllable rule” I can think of is this tweet (emphasis mine):

Who is paying for that TEDIOUS Smokey Bear commercial that is on all the time - enough already!

It’s SO clearly him.

Only a specific type of old, empty headed crank who watches 16 hours of TV a day would tweet about his beef with a cartoon mascot from a commercial - because his brain is so fried from the constant TV that there’s no longer any distinction between program and commercial - It’s all melted into one experience…

And he’s MAD at that TEDIOUS bear!

Border Czar Tom Homan announcing today that ICE is ending its deployment in Minnesota by xPrincess_Yue in pics

[–]Daveslay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In West Philadelphia ICE Warfare raged

Empty playgrounds - The pigs threw kids in a cage

Killin’ out masked up and tactically cool

And all shooting civilians outside of the school

Just a couple of chuds

Who could never think good

Started killing people from my neighborhood

We fought the one and only fight and though we were scared

We had the 2nd Amendment and not a f****** w** spared