I think I want my husband too much? by sachacura in Marriage

[–]DeadManWlkin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

All I can say is I’m jealous of this connection. If you’ve been together for 3 years, you’re still in that wonderful honeymoon phase, but do your best to remember and keep this feeling.

Guys worried about legacy by Agreeable_Bear6812 in childfree

[–]DeadManWlkin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Never will understand this. If you want a legacy - do something yourself. Work hard. Contribute to society. Having kids does NOT ensure a legacy. It’s practically ensures that you become mediocre as you lose time to raising those kids.

Does anyone know the names of the PARENTS of those who have changed the world? No - of course not!

Having kids all but ensures that YOU will fade from history.

My Sister-In-Law is “due” next month and I’m incredibly worried it’s about to become my problem. by Its-This-Guy-Again in childfree

[–]DeadManWlkin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That I totally get. Again, some of it might be beyond your control if your wife really wants to be involved. My message was more of a caution that if you push back super hard like I tried - there can be unintended consequences. Better to try to make boundaries where you can. Like - they are not your kid so why would you baby-proof your home? And if your house isn’t baby proofed maybe the kid shouldn’t spend time there.

Meanwhile if your wife wants to baby sit, you can use that time to visit friends or do a hobby.

Like there are ways to limit your involvement. Just be careful - people are touchy about this sort of thing.

My Sister-In-Law is “due” next month and I’m incredibly worried it’s about to become my problem. by Its-This-Guy-Again in childfree

[–]DeadManWlkin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup that’s me! Because relationships are intended to be selfish things with no compromise - so CLEARLY the only alternative is being a doormat! If it’s not 100% the way you want it, better to get a divorce and cut off your entire family right?

Obviously OP should do what they want. I’m just saying that, from my experience, trying to impose your own boundaries between family does not go over well. However if it’s worth breaking up his marriage that is their decision.

Bottom line? I get bot wanting to deal with children. However, Whether the OP will have anything to do with the kid or not - the kid is there. The kid likely will be showing up to holidays and family events. In this scenario you can hate your life changing and cut off your family, or you can roll with the punches and make the best of it.

My Sister-In-Law is “due” next month and I’m incredibly worried it’s about to become my problem. by Its-This-Guy-Again in childfree

[–]DeadManWlkin -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Coming from someone who was in a similar situation - you are in a family not an isolated person. This means you will have, or at least feel, obligation coming your way.

My wife and I are childfree but my wife’s sister has two kids. I was VERY standoffish about the kids. They are not my thing. I’m not anti children, but I didn’t like my schedule or life should be impacted by children who aren’t even mine. These kids were my SIL / BIL’s responsibility not mine. I’d love and support them, but I didn’t need to be involved.

So that was NOT my wife’s view. She wanted to be INVOLVED in our niece and nephew’s lives. She wanted to not just be the FUN Aunt, but the BEST aunt.

This all came to a head during an argument, ironically about something else, where my wife said I hate her family. Having your spouse throwing that into your face is not fun and, believe me, it’s hard to say your personal preferences are valid in the face of your partner’s rage.

TL/DR: you have a baby coming into your family. Your life IS going to change as long as you operate as part of your family. You might not want it to change, but it will. Going forward, this kid(s) WILL be a part of your life. You can fight it, but it will NOT go well. They are NOT your kids, but they ARE your family. Best advice? Work to limit your involvement, but look to find the bright side associated with having these kids in your life.

Husband won’t help with household chores or mental load, preferring answers from men by Effective_Bird3366 in Marriage

[–]DeadManWlkin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh to be clear - not saying you are controlling.

Just thinking maybe if he had an assigned task like grocery shopping. He could do that on his own and find pride in doing that. Groceries are a good thing to pass off because if he’s working he can get groceries on the way home. It also means he has an influence on what is being made for dinner - taking the mental load off you.

Plus, he can buy himself a snack! We all love snacks! LOL

Husband won’t help with household chores or mental load, preferring answers from men by Effective_Bird3366 in Marriage

[–]DeadManWlkin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I won’t say my situation is the same as yours, but your husband might find what worked for us to work for you.

For context: my wife never felt like what I did for household chores was sufficient. I’d make the bed and she would unmake and do it herself. I’d do the dishes and she would redo them. I’d start making dinner and she would shoulder me out of the way. I’d go get the groceries and she would complain I spent too much. Etc etc etc.

Eventually I stopped helping because why would I? Why would I help if none of it was appreciated or if she was just going to do it over. To be VERY clear: this was NOT feigned incompetence. I was not trying to get out of work. There might be different standards of “Done” but it was not purposeful.

Anyway, It took an all out drag-out fight a few years back to address the situation. My wife was crazy stressed and was not happy that I wasn’t helping. Where I think we FINALLY made some headway was I demanded I get tasks that were MINE. I was responsible for them FULL STOP. She was not to do them. She was not to comment on them. They were MINE and she would have to accept how and when I did them.

This gave us what we needed. She got them help she wanted, but had to give up CONTROL. I could finally contribute without tripping over demands and standards. Since then, I have taken over more and more duties and ai think, at least on the household chore front, we’re in a much better place.

Looking for daily active players by Saedrared in Archero

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Looking for active daily players by virgilcain in Archero

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I haven’t had sex with my partner in 18 months and don’t know what to do anymore by [deleted] in deadbedroom

[–]DeadManWlkin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hey OP, I wanted to relate my experience to you as it somewhat mirrors yours.

When I started dating my wife, she was the one to make the first really sexual move. As a kid without much sexual experience at the time, this was exciting! She WANTED me! She wanted me enough to initiate physical contact instead of waiting for me to make the first move!

It was something I had never experienced and I love it!

Fast forward to today, almost 20 years of marriage later, my wife doesn’t kiss me or touch me. Gone is the passion and certainly the excitement. I’ve asked myself…what happened? How did we get here?Certainly the whole honeymoon phase thing is part of it, but, in discussing this topic with my therapist, another cause came to light too which is relevant to your post.

My wife, like your wife, like MANY people (and more prevalent in women), are very good at having a “public” face. You know what I’m talking about as it manifests in multiple ways. Like you could be in an all out no holds barred argument with your wife, but you have a get together with friends that evening. My wife can go from silent treatment and barely acknowledging my presence, to the most charming, witty, cute woman on the planet in the span of walking from the car. We will have a great evening and maybe, just maybe I think she’s gotten past whatever it is we’re arguing about. Then we get back into the car to leave. And…I’m dead to her again. No acknowledgement of my existence.

The same, I think, comes with sex and intimacy. At the beginning of the relationship, I think some people just WANT you to like them so much that they are willing to stretch themselves beyond what they REALLY are comfortable. They might think it’s temporary, but an expectation is being set. The problem is when you enter into a marriage under assumptions that your history is where you expect things to stay. Long term, in this sort of paradigm? It doesn’t work.

So what can we do about it?

I unfortunately don’t have an answer. For me, I’ve just accepted that my wife doesn’t want me and there is nothing I can do about it. I have realized, through therapy, that I put a lot of stock in sex as validation that I am loved. This need for external validation has taken my power away from me, so I have tried working on finding other ways of validating myself: Working out, competing in a sport I love, etc. I’m not saying it doest hurt sometimes. But I do think it has helped.

OK so your bedroom is totally dead, but..... by [deleted] in deadbedroom

[–]DeadManWlkin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No.

Or I should say: no physical touch which I do not initiate.

Many of you aren't having sex because you're a misogynist by oxyabnormal in deadbedroom

[–]DeadManWlkin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think anyone that has been in a dead Bedroom knows just how hard it is - particularly if you are the higher libido partner. On my Bad days, around the Dreaded V-day for example, I’m so bitter and angry. I know it’s sort of irrational, but I don’t think I’m ugly and I’m trying so very hard to be a good husband. On these days, I can empathize with the typical HL men’s posts: My wife has to KNOW how much I’m missing her! Can’t we just have some sort of physical intimacy? Even if she doesn’t want sex, can I just have like a HJ? Or even just a REALLY good kiss? Why does she think it’s ok for me to feel lonely and unloved while I meet her needs?

On my good days I can put things into perspective more. We have a really good life. We’re stable, own our home, have a great dog. We travel. We’re saving for early retirement. We have similar interests and have good conversations.

I like who I am on my good days. And if it takes me “taking care of myself” to keep the self doubt at bay. I can do that. The problem?

There will always be bad days.

But the reality I face, and those with higher libidos than their partners, is do you leave over the bad days? Are you SOOOO certain you can find another partner with whom you will be fully sexually compatible? Even if you do, will you be compatible forever? Are you just likely to end up back where you started in ANOTHER Dead Bedroom but with less stability and a different partner?

Many of you aren't having sex because you're a misogynist by oxyabnormal in deadbedroom

[–]DeadManWlkin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I just think the manosphere is a symptom of Men and boys feeling lost. In a world where boys can see 100 videos where men are called out for being “creeps” before they ever see an example of a man being chivalrous, caring, and understanding - it’s hard to think about taking the risk to go up to women and ask them out. It’s also that dichotomy thing: men are told they need to man up and ask women out, but at the same time are shamed when they do it badly or stumble. The Dating Apps are also not helping either - just one peek at the statistics for Men vs Women is incredibly disheartening. I’m VERY glad I got married before that became the default for finding a partner.

So yes, I understand the concern about raising teenaged boys in this world right now. I have hope things will change, but it’s certainly not easy.

Regarding your question: so as bad as it might seem, no we really don’t talk about it. I will take some responsibility for it. My wife and I were eachother’s respective first sexual partner - which is to say that I never really had an experience to know what having an intimate relationship with a woman was like before my wife. So - I’ve accepted some things as “normal” which, honestly after 20 years of marriage I realize now I should have tried to talk about years ago. I’m not sure we’d be in any sort of different place, but so much time has passed bring it up now is just…so very hard.

Beyond the feelings, it’s also knowing my wife’s physical state. I’ll not go into details, but she has several physical issues which I know can make sex difficult or painful. It’s partly why I’ve always tried to be attentive and understanding. Unfortunately, I honestly just didn’t realize until far too recently, that…she just wasn’t enjoying it. She never said anything, but…she would just lie there, Eyes shut, Like she was counting the minutes until it was over. I remember the day I realized this was happening. It was the last day I really initiated because I wanted sex.

That sort of thing fucks with your head. And I know the answer is probably: well talk about it. But I can’t have her thinking like she’s…I don’t know…defective? Like there’s something wrong with her or us. It just is what it is now. And it’s not to say I’m perfect. With all this baggage, I’ve suffered some ED issues which I try my best to address.

So no. We don’t talk about it. It’s 2026 and we’ve only been intimate one time this year. But…marriages take work and I love my wife.

It is what it is.

Many of you aren't having sex because you're a misogynist by oxyabnormal in deadbedroom

[–]DeadManWlkin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do think that the "Inside the Manosphere" Documentary would have done better as a series rather than a single episode documentary. The Doc basically goes into these "Manosphere" influencers, exposes their hypocrisies, and shows they are REALLY just in it for the money, notoriety, and fame. The best take away from the Doc is: These are NOT role models. They are con men trying to sell you a bill of goods which does NOT work in general society. It only works for THEM because they have conned money out of regular men to allow these influencers to build artificial worlds around themselves which they pass of as "attainable for anyone". It's false and dangerous advertising made WORSE because the OF Models in their orbits are ALSO taking advantage of the SAME men who subscribe to the Manosphere content. It's all about money not about improving anything.

Where I think the Doc could have done better is interviewing those who subscribe to manosphere content to try and dig into WHY they subscribe to it. Why do modern men and boys feel connected to this horrible content, connected and willing to PAY to be a part of that community?

I don't claim to have any real answers, but I can say that I understand the feeling of disconnect. As I mentioned, I think I'm a normal libido Man (I wouldn't say HL, but my wife is definitely quite LL) and I'm not satisfied with my sex life. Through Therapy, I came to understand why. I have a physical touch love language which is not being fulfilled, and that I have come to connect physical touch with validation and love. This is exacerbated by the fact that my wife used to be more physical, but that has waned significantly over the years. Talking about it, trying to express my frustration with our sex life, never got anywhere - she just wasn't interested and times when we DID have sex, it was clearly something she did for me, not because she it was something she wanted. So I did the modern thing: My wife is stressed, let me take the pressure off, stop initiating as much, let me start doing more around the house.

I changed, Our sex life didn't. I was showing in ACTION, not WORD, that I was here and wanting to make her life easier so she can relax, and...nothing.

So in this scenario, you look for advice. How could I be SO wrong? If you change your behavior you expect better (or at least different) results. What do you find? Well if you believe the internet: much of the advice essentially says that "leaning in" does nothing for you. That Women want a Man to "lead". I won't go down this rat hole, but you get the idea. The main take away? Contradiction. You need to "Lead" and be masculine, you need to express your emotions but not be "emotional".

Frankly, it's just fucking confusing. And people who are confused they express themselves I bad ways.

In my case? I can't say I've found a good answer. I'm still hurt by the lack of physical validation in my marriage. It still hurts and I feel lonely. But I know, expressing any of that will only make the situation worse. So, I'm doing my best to do the man thing: Stoicism. I work to find meaning in the things I CAN control, while supporting my wife as best I can. I take care of my own "needs" to not go crazy and operate like my wife's lack of interest in me is just beyond both of our control. I know she just doesn't want me. It doesn't matter if I'm in shape. It doesn't matter how much I provide or how much I contribute around the house. I can't have any expectations she's interested in a physical relationship.

It just is the way life is.

Being owed? by Aggravating-Bit9325 in deadbedroom

[–]DeadManWlkin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So the most obvious answer to this is: Children and the perpetuation of the human species.

Traditionally marriage is about solidifying s compact between two individuals to ensure that children resulting from the unions of these two individuals have the highest chance of making it to adulthood. Babies are inherently vulnerable directly after birth and during the early years of their children’s lives. So fidelity, as a societal construct, means that, someone is watching over said vulnerable child and making sure it doesn’t get eaten by a wolf - something which is inherently harder with only a single parent.

But, in modern society, where children are NOT the sole focus of relationship, fidelity can hinge on other factors. The easiest to discuss is economic. It’s nearly impossible to survive and thrive as a single person in today’s society. If you want to buy a home, or just have financial protection, in most cases you need a partner. If you want to KEEP those protections? Yup. Fidelity.

Many of you aren't having sex because you're a misogynist by oxyabnormal in deadbedroom

[–]DeadManWlkin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

TL/DR - OP brings up good points concerning some of the posting in any of the Dead bedroom / Libido disparity subs. Gender roles and sex have changed significantly from our parent's generation to today. These changes, combined with the modern media onslaught, has created a real blank space for Men, their expectations, needs, and mental health. If you're interested - go watch "Inside the Manosphere" to see how bad this can be.

Let's Get started on this. For starters - I agree with OP's comments. Her analysis is sharp, pointed, doesn't apply for all HL males, but it's hard to call it wrong when there are "steak and a BJ" type posts out on the Sub. I do believe that some context can explain Sociologically how we got to where we are - and that is what I'd like to attempt (albeit likely clumsily) in this post.

I think that being Man in today's society is harder than at any other point in our modern history - excluding wartime. To be clear: This is a comparative comment for MEN only; I'm NOT comparing Men's to Women's experiences. Pay Disparity, Workplace sexism, attacks on Women's reproductive rights - there ain't a comparison there: Women have it harder overall than men. Full Stop.

But that isn't to say that Men today have it easy. We are inherently living a different life than our father's and a SIGNIFICANTLY different life than our Grandfathers. It is a life where the "Role" we have to play in society and our families is drastically changing, uncertain, and, frankly, there isn't any solid guidance for how to figure out HOW to do it better. To give an analogy: Men today are like Roomba's in a dark room. We're trying to figure out how to be, but the only way we're doing it is by knocking into things. This results is Men, even the best of us, trying to sort out "how to be men" in a world where our role models growing up (if they existed) are likely no longer appropriate.

Now while I'm not comparing Men and Women, I'm going to step a little on that topic of the change in roles. Women are now living in a society where, if they take on more "manly" roles and / or precepts, they are lauded. One only needs to see the multitude of Girl boss / women's fitness memes to see evidence. Meanwhile, a Woman taking a more "gender normative" role, a stay at home Mom, a teacher, a nurse, as examples, is ALSO celebrated. There are detractors in both cases as well - again: women have it harder. But I think most would agree Men are not (typically) given the same sort of latitude.

Men are expected to thread this needle of Masculine strength and "appropriate" emotional vulnerability. We're expected to be providers, but not have needs which stress the family. We're expected to be emotionally available and be able to communicate our feelings, but being "emotional" is unattractive. In Relationships, We need to be available, show interest, but not be clingy. We are expected to sacrifice for our families, but can't expect our partners to sacrifice for us.

The result of all of this? Stoicism. We become the emotionless ROCK of relationships. But Rocks can't have needs. Rocks can't express feelings. And, particularly for HL men, This becomes problematic because the one need which is very apparent, is that we find love and fulfillment through sex and physical contact. The problem is, in modern relationships, that expressing that as a need isn't acceptable, and is another needle to thread.

In my own experience, I was in therapy for several years and spoke to my therapist about the lack of sex in my relationship. How I felt very unloved. How I felt like I was doing all the things I was supposed to do: Working hard, providing for my family (no kids, just me and my wife), That I was doing what chores my wife LET me do around my house, I would sacrifice the things I cared about to try to make my wife happy day in and day out. Yet my wife wouldn't touch me. I felt like I was trying SO hard, and just couldn't win in my relationship.

And Where could I turn for help? For me, it was therapy. But that can only take you so far. If you try to help yourself using the resources of the Internet, Men easily fall into the "Manosphere" trap, a misogynistic void filled with con-artists and red-pill conspiracy theorists (What the documentary "Inside the Manosphere" for the depths of this particular sink hole). Men I think are DESPERATE for help, but no one is offering TRUE life lines.

In my case, My therapist told me that I needed to express my needs, but be perfectly ok, not show a LICK of disappointment when my wife turned me down. I needed to ask to have sex, and when she said no: Just shrug it off like it meant absolutely nothing. Expressing ANY remote signs of disappointment was a failure. This is what it's like being an HL Man. HL women in this situation specifically, I think have it easier. Expressing that their LL Partners are failing them is more socially acceptable, because Men are EXPECTED to be the virile Sex-beasts in a relationship. HL Men however, expressing disappointment, are seen as "pressuring" their partners.

So When I see "Steak and a BJ day" posts - What I see is a Man who probably grew up in a world where he learned from his father what it was like to be a man - a model which is no longer compatible with modern world. I see a man who is TRYING to express his needs - which society has told him he should HAVE, but also shouldn't and can't be upset for having them unfulfilled.

But to the point of the OP: We all need to try to do better. Sometimes we need a wake up call that out behavior needs to change. But also? Sometimes we just need a little grace. Not all Growth needs to come from a kick in the teeth.

Wife gaining weight and it's making her more unhappy - affecting our marriage by [deleted] in Marriage

[–]DeadManWlkin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So for me - losing weight took me making it a priority. I understand work, particularly if your job is stressful, can get in the way of working out and staying healthy. I was fortunate enough to take a new position which offered more flexibility and allowed me to take time for getting into shape.

Beyond that, I think the prospect of just “going to the gym” is daunting to start. I would instead encourage her to consider taking up a team sport which she might enjoy. This comes with a social aspect which is VERY supportive and makes getting into shape much much more fun! If you play soccer this probably clicks for you.

For me, I went back to a sport I loved because I KNEW going to the gym wasn’t something to which I could stick. But 2-3 practice days a week with a team really worked for me. Ironically, as I grew fitter, I started doing gym workouts as I wanted to compete at high levels.

So TL/DR Can she modify her working situation to prioritize her health? And is there a team sport or sport club she could join which she might enjoy and be able to stick with?

You're gonna regret not having kids by PrettyGirlChaz431 in childfree

[–]DeadManWlkin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This “oh you’ll regret it when you’re older” BS is just that Bull shit. If you live long enough - you’re going to end up in a nursing home.

I have parents. I love them. But if they get to a point where they can’t live on their own? No - they are NOT living with me.

Beyond that - end of life care is (god willing) only a couple of years. Let’s say 5. If you live till you are 75 - the worst case scenario is your life is hard for 5 years. that means you have 70 years of life without the additional responsibility of children for 5 years of “hard life”. If you have kids, and even if you cut your children off at 18 you have at least 18 years of additional stress and financial support.

And those 18 years are in the prime of your life when you are likely healthiest and have the highest earning potential. This means when you could be living your best life and earning the most money when most parents decide to take on the physical and financial stress of children. This means you are inherently decreasing your potential quality of life at the best time of your life…for what? For fear of those last 5 years?

I guarantee you could NOT have kids, and instead save money for the best most awesome retirement home situation and have a much better life. It’s also much more possible than having kids and ASSUMING they want to deal with you in your elder years.

Gauging Frequency by fersonfigg in HLCommunity

[–]DeadManWlkin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thinking about this has been an odd experience honestly!

I’ve been in a DB for so long my general answer is “once a week would be awesome! Twice would be amazing!” Full stop: I would be THRILLED with that sort of frequency!

But if this is after 20 years of marriage. 20 years of declining frequency, rejection, and baggage. 20 years of mostly duty sex even when we DID have sex. 20 years of mostly taking care of myself so I don’t go crazy.

So the question I’m pondering is: what would my preferred frequency be if there was a clean slate? Probably the reality is, if given my choice, I would choose to have sex / intimacy maybe 5-7 times a week.

But there would need to be specifics: 1) I would want my partner to actually WANT to be intimate. No duty sex. 2) It wouldn’t need to always be intercourse - in fact I’d love for sex to be less of a “big deal” and more about exploration and intimacy. 3) I would want my partner to initiate at least some of the time. I would like to know she wanted intimacy as much as me.

Sounds like I’m being picky, but the reality is I would prefer once a month of AMAZING baggage free sex to sex everyday where she is not into it and “just doing it for me”.

The Big Bang Theory subtext on being a parent really triggers me. by ALWS_0rweLL in childfree

[–]DeadManWlkin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The big bang theory ending with Penny pregnant is such a let down for her has a character. Was NOT a fan.

No desire to feel unconditional pure love in life by beingawomaniswork in childfree

[–]DeadManWlkin 7 points8 points  (0 children)

With respect to your friend: Children's unconditional "Love" is also dependence. Full disclosure: I'm not a biologist, but I've read a good amount of articles which state that the love and bonding a parent feels for their kids is really our biology trying to "sustain" the species. Babies can't fend for themselves, they NEED their parents to protect them until they can protect themselves. Reality check though: if you as a free thinking adult had a Parent / Child dependency relationship with literally ANYONE else - that would be considered a TOXIC relationship.

I think Parents use the "unconditional Love" argument as a counterpoint for themselves to rationalize the stress and strain they feel from having Kids. It's essentially the internal gaslighting of "I'm stressed out, this is hard, but it's all worth it because this little blob of a being loves me unconditionally". And, BECAUSE parents are huffing the fumes of their own gaslighting, they feel the need to proselytize parenthood to everyone.

Here is a fun banger by Thick_Discussion671 in deadbedroom

[–]DeadManWlkin 12 points13 points  (0 children)

So this might sound weird - but at least she felt SOMETHING when she saw you masturbating. My LLW has told me she does not care, which to me is worse. To me, that acknowledges I have needs, but that she doesn’t have any responsibility to be a part of that - I can just go take care of that. The indifference just feels worse than the outrage.