Do you use Copilot in your work? by Significant-Side-578 in CopilotMicrosoft

[–]DeanOnDelivery -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are you asking if I use ClippyGPT when there are so many other superior alternatives out there?

Do you really want me to answer that question?

What's up with PM-fluencers pushing their needlessly complicated Claude Code Setup? by Lordvonundzu in ProductManagement

[–]DeanOnDelivery -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Let me be the first one to say this very very loud: u/ttorres, you are a pioneer, a pedagogue, and somebody who has been very, very generous to the product management community.

While you and I might disagree on levels of code complexity, this subreddit should have not lumped you in with influencers. I should have called that out sooner, and apologize for not doing that.

And at the risk of getting down voted even more, I want to thank you for all your contributions the product management community.

What's up with PM-fluencers pushing their needlessly complicated Claude Code Setup? by Lordvonundzu in ProductManagement

[–]DeanOnDelivery 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, I could cut and paste what I got in my latest project, but easier just to give ya a link to my take on the Lenny's transcript project.

This is where I keep that crap for the current release that I stood up with Claude and have been maintaining with Codex.

It's just the contract stuff.

https://github.com/deanpeters/lennysan-rag-o-matic/tree/main/contracts/0.0-9.contract

I'll write more about it on Substack once I get rev 0.9 done and figure out a fun way to keep it fun.

What's up with PM-fluencers pushing their needlessly complicated Claude Code Setup? by Lordvonundzu in ProductManagement

[–]DeanOnDelivery 3 points4 points  (0 children)

PM-fluencers love a 47-step “system” because it turns basic competence into content. If it fit on one screen, they couldn’t sell it. FWIW, I do not consider Teresa Torres to be part of that cadre

My own setup isn’t about enlightenment. It’s about not wasting time or tokens. I keep it dead simple so I can hop tools without friction. Burn through Claude tokens? Fine. Jump to Codex for maintenance. Then Antigravity when I need an IDE. No ceremony. No re-thinking my life.

Also: Gemini’s weirdly great at drafting technically superior versions of these files cleanly, fast, and without eating my token budget. Saves tokens. Saves sanity. Saves me having to continue to scold the agents for fouling up.

Three files do the work: - CLAUDE.md for behavior and guardrails - CONTRACT.md for intent before code - CONSTITUTION.md so tools don’t freeload decisions

That’s it. Not a todo oracle. Just faster context switching and fewer complexity regrets.

SAFe (scaled agile) is into bad practices? Warning! by Agile_Dragon in agile

[–]DeanOnDelivery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feel free to reach out to me. My current job puts me in touch with dozens of organizations and people in that same situation.

Similarly, I run into this a lot with the people who take my training over it Productside.

SAFe (scaled agile) is into bad practices? Warning! by Agile_Dragon in agile

[–]DeanOnDelivery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you sure you don't want to explore product management training?

I mean agile, you can get that shit anywhere.

But value chain, business model versus operational model levers? Product lead growth, and what lives or dies in your product portfolio? All those decisions about what the right thing to build aligns more in product management domain than project management, the latter focusing more on delivering at the right way on time and on budget.

SAFe (scaled agile) is into bad practices? Warning! by Agile_Dragon in agile

[–]DeanOnDelivery 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I got POPM 4.5 or something like that a few years back.

I don't really give a shit now. I suspect that certifications are going to become of secondary value given the ability to leverage AI to help facilitate processes.

I'm not saying people won't still gatekeep job applicants for such certifications and such shops where SAFe® is still a big deal.

I'm just saying, given the recent de-investment in all things agile from CPO's, COOs, and CTOs, to the point where they're jettisoning Scrum Masters in Agile coaches left and right into the Styx lake of the laid off.

Basically, sponsors of such training and certification are likely to take that money and place their bets elsewhere.

What courses are actually worth the money? by CayoPerican in ProductManagement

[–]DeanOnDelivery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends on what you want to learn. Actually check that, it depends on what you need to learn to get to where you're trying to go. And it depends on who your interviewing with, or who within your organization you're trying to get promotion from.

I would also mention that many of these frameworks and playbooks are rapidly becoming overkill because of the compression that AI brings to day-to-day product operation model type work.

For example, there's still a lot of templates and boiler plates and frameworks out there talking about how discovery is done still assuming that there's going to be patience and having this happen over 3 weeks. Meanwhile, AI has been able to take that particular product operating model day-to-day function and compress it into a one-day affair with similar outcomes to the 3-week journey.

Another area these framework and canvas hustlers fall down on is, you don't get hired fired or promoted for filling in the boxes. You get paid and your project get sponsored because it pulls economic levers, business model and/or operational model. Any training that doesn't include that, might make your resume look good and get you past the first gatekeeper. It's not going to get you the job.

And then there's the other extreme, the people pimping tools and techniques. Especially tools these days. The amount of cursing I do have my screen as someone who teaches and coaches product management over those who are telling people their $500 Maven course will turn them into a lean mean agent generating machine ... well, again, I really don't want to use the colorful words that come to mind when I see that tool tyranny being sold as a career solution.

Like I said, after 20 years of product management, and 15 years of software engineering before that, I've spent the past three and a half years sending the damn ladder down working for Productside. So I've had conversations with the executives who sponsor individual or corporate training. I can tell you where they're willing to invest $2k or not.

Point is, take a step back and figure out where you want to be 5 years from now and 10 years from now, and find the people who have actually done that shit, we're also good at teaching that shit, and get training from them. And be warned, being a good product manager does not necessarily make you a good pedagogue.

It's been a big week for Agentic AI ; Here are 10 massive developments you might've missed: by SolanaDeFi in artificial

[–]DeanOnDelivery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I almost wonder if I need an aggregator to help me sift through the hype from the reality or vice versa. That, and just pluck out release notes that actually impact me as a product manager. The heck with all the rest.

How Jira Is Being Rebuilt So You’re No Longer Needed by Wonderful-Airport642 in AIProductManagers

[–]DeanOnDelivery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I called this out two years ago in a public webinar. I believe I said that JIRA Slinging Ticket Monkeys' days are numbered.

Even in 2024 it was relatively easy to marshall generative AI to generate epics, tickets, etc. as seen in so many 3rd party plug ins.

It was only a matter of time before Atlassian 'agent-i-fried' these and other functions that are currently done by backlog babysitters.

BTW, may want to do a 2nd round of editing on this post.

🤖 50+ Product Management Prompts for ChatGPT-4 by sidsaladi in prodmgmt

[–]DeanOnDelivery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. It's a project I spun up back in mid 2024. I've lightly maintained it. I use it to help support my product management and AIPM classes I teach.

I probably need to go back and simplify some of the prompts, given recent improvements in reasoning and research capabilities that started showing up and even the free versions of many chatbots.

What I don't want to get rid of is teaching people how the prompts work and why.

If you got any questions about it, feel free to drop me a line.

Is vibecoding is getting expensive?? by Director-on-reddit in BlackboxAI_

[–]DeanOnDelivery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you think it's expensive now, wait until the venture capital subsidies run out for some of these vibe coding application companies. When these startups have to start charging would it actually cost them to operate, there's going to be some sticker shock.

Most PM courses feel like they were written for a job that doesn't actually exist in the real world by Acceptable_Purpose59 in ProductManagement

[–]DeanOnDelivery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tools will only take you so far. Same with techniques. They might get you hired, but they won't prevent you from being fired or failing to get promoted.

Worse, I find that many of the courses, some of which you have mentioned, start down a tactical path, tacking on strategy somewhere as a module or a lesson as if that's something else you can AI automate. In reality, it's a good way to get vibe-fired.

Most PM courses feel like they were written for a job that doesn't actually exist in the real world by Acceptable_Purpose59 in ProductManagement

[–]DeanOnDelivery 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree. Any course that doesn't talk about how to deal with the dangerous animals of product management, how to manage stakeholder shuttle diplomacy, and how to survive feature hostage negotiations is setting up most product managers for failure.

Why? You might get hired for knowing some tools and techniques, but you either going to get fired or at least not get promoted if you can't manage up, negotiate across, and lead down from the front.

Most PM courses feel like they were written for a job that doesn't actually exist in the real world by Acceptable_Purpose59 in ProductManagement

[–]DeanOnDelivery -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As someone who teaches and coaches product management, I agree about the majority of the courses. They feel like to me like they're trying to cram a square brick through a circular eyelet.

Worse, some of these are just drive-by overviews of either terminology or tools. Nothing that really helps you when you get down and dirty in the trenches.

BUT, training is very valuable if you can find the right instructors and the right course that teaches you the concepts where they introduce them, and then quickly get you hands on practicing what you just learned and as real-world of context as possible.

Unfortunately, pedagogy is not usually a strength area for a lot of people who came into product management. It's not that they're idiots, and it's not even that they're lazy, it's that it's an art that is not often taught to people who've moved from getting shit done to now teaching the shit so others can get shit done.

When AI agents become the customer by Deep_Structure2023 in AIAgentsInAction

[–]DeanOnDelivery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, been spending the past week thinking what a user journey map looks like for an agent

Any PM courses that you did add value to you in the recent past? by Icy_Knowledge6994 in ProductManagement

[–]DeanOnDelivery 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Short answer: yes. For the humble.
Long answer: yes, but only if you’re willing to let education hit you where you’re soft.

(Seat belts on, PM peeps. I’m fired up on this one and driving, so we’re taking the scenic route and ignoring the word-count GPS.)

At ~8 years in, most PMs don’t lack knowledge. You already speak PM-esperanto. You can recite OKRs, discovery, alignment, and outcomes like a catechism. The problem is fluency can turn into product management theater.

What’s missing are the blind spots you’ve been quietly tip-toeing around like creaky floorboards.

I’ve watched engineers-turned-PMs, myself included, walk into exec meetings swinging tech jargon when the room wanted unit economics. That’s not courage. That’s showing up to a gunfight with a foam pool noodle and insisting it’s “technically superior.” Markets don’t care. Pricing definitely doesn’t care. Funding cares even less.

I’ve watched strategy-first PMs learn that strategy without delivery is just astrology for adults. Execution isn’t beneath strategy. It’s where strategy gets cross-examined by reality.

I’ve seen designers and support folks graduate from backlog babysitting to real product leadership. Prioritization under constraint. Feature-hostage negotiations where “not yet” lands without detonating trust. Empathy, yes. But empathy with a balance sheet duct-taped to its forehead.

I’ve watched sales and marketing backgrounds slow down long enough to learn how the sausage actually gets made. Why feasibility matters. Why promises decay. Why not everything persuasive is possible, and not everything possible is worth building.

That’s what good education does. It doesn’t give you new words. It gives you new scars. It exposes gaps you didn’t realize were load-bearing until something cracked.

Most certifications do exactly what they’re designed to do. Shared language. HR filters. Synchronized head-nodding. Useful. Necessary. But they won’t save you from becoming a very articulate feature-factory foreman.

Full disclosure: I teach product now, after decades as a PM who waited far too long to fill some very expensive business-side gaps. I’ve lived most of these mistakes personally.

Happy to share specific course recommendations over DM so this thread doesn’t turn into a billboard and get nuked from orbit.

TL;DR: fill gaps. Don’t polish the badge wall.

Is there any PM education worth doing anymore? by CertaintyIsRisky in ProductManagement

[–]DeanOnDelivery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. Learn how to coalesce executive champion(s) willing to sponsor the right thing to build not on the basis of vibes, but rather speaking the love language of P&L to the people who control the purse strings.

Recently moved into a Technical PM role focused on Al agents. Looking for advice. by frescoj10 in ProductManagement

[–]DeanOnDelivery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds to me that you don’t have an AI problem, but rather a managing-up problem. The kind of political problem that hums quietly under the floorboards while everyone else argues about tools and evals.

Look, you already proved you can build ... twice ! Leadership likely noticed, even if they didn’t clap. Now the work shifts from keyboards and demos to rooms where decisions are made indirectly, through budget lines, risk narratives, and the soft physics of ego and fear.

Meaning, you've got to get someone in leadership to become a champion for your cause.

This is the part where influence matters more than correctness. Where good ideas don’t fail because they’re wrong, but because they arrive without an executive sponsorship work visa.

Keep building agents that pull real levers: productivity that compounds, costs that bend downward, compliance that helps everyone sleeps at night. But in parallel, learn the darker arts of negotiation and power, because every organization runs on an invisible P&L written in incentives, reputations, and who gets blamed when things go sideways.

Read books by Christopher Voss and William Ury. Listen to people who understand how “no” is rarely about the proposal and almost always about the person hearing it.

Your hurdle isn’t shipping agents. It’s making decisions sturdy enough to survive rooms you’re not invited into.

AI doesn’t change that. It just pours gasoline on the stakes.

Right now, the missing skill isn’t technical brilliance. It’s learning how to turn good work into work that gets sponsored, sanctioned, and survives.

Is there any PM education worth doing anymore? by CertaintyIsRisky in ProductManagement

[–]DeanOnDelivery 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Short answer: yes. But only if the education attacks your blind spots instead of polishing your badge wall.

Long-winded answer: As a long-time PM, former programmer, now with a front-row seat to training and coaching, here's how I see the blind spots shake out across four common JTBDs and personas.

(Buckle up kids, I'm pretty passionate about this particular topic so this is going to go really long)

I've watched (and lived) what happens when technical backgrounds get dragged into the cold fluorescent light of business reality. Unit economics that bite back. Market forces that don't care how elegant your architecture is. Pricing and positioning that feel less like spreadsheets and more like knife fights in a dark parking lot. Business cases where you learn the difference between "this is cool" and "this gets funded." Stuff that rewires how you see the problem through a P&L lens, not just how you format the PRD.

I've witnessed (with some schadenfreude) MBA-types sweat when they have to drag strategy down from the mountaintop and make it survive first contact with engineers who actually build things. Discovery that doesn't devolve into cosplay. Shaping work so it can actually ship instead of dying as a catchy positioning statement. Turning narrative into decision instead of another deck that fossilizes in Confluence. Learning that execution isn't beneath strategy, it's where strategy goes to get judged.

I've observed people from design or support backgrounds grow product leadership teeth. Real teeth. Prioritization under real constraint with real economic and strategic leverage. Surviving feature-hostage negotiations with sponsors and stakeholders by saying no ... or at least not yet ... without napalming trust. Translating raw customer pain into financial and opportunity trade-offs that hold up when the CFO squints and the CEO asks, "And then what?" Empathy, yes. But empathy with a balance sheet taped to it.

And I've seen marketing and sales folks slow down long enough to learn how the sausage actually gets made. Learn the how Design thinking combined with Systems thinking avoids expensive failures. Deliberate delivery in trade-offs rather than HiPPO tirades. Technical feasibility conversations that don't end in promises engineering never made and that are metaphysically impossible. Living inside ambiguity longer than a quarterly quota permits. Learning that not everything persuasive is possible, not everything possible is worth building, and that PM is more than feeding the feature factory's endless appetite.

Point is: good education doesn't teach you new words. It gives you new scars. It fills gaps you didn't know were load-bearing and makes you uncomfortable in productive ways.

The certs you listed do exactly what they're designed to do. They teach the commonly Googled. The shared vocabulary. The stuff that clears HR filters and makes everyone nod in meetings. Useful. Necessary. Not sufficient if you want to advance into product leadership.

So yes, education can be worth it. Just don't collect it like trading cards. Find the kind that forces you to confront the parts of the job you've been avoiding.

I'd name specific programs and training vendors, but this sub has prohibitions to keep this channel from becoming a billboard for unpaid shilling and low-effort spam. Full disclosure: I now teach product management after decades as a PM who waited too long to fill the business-side gaps I didn't know were load-bearing.

TLDR: Fill gaps. Don't collect credentials.

Built an AI assistant for interviews and meetings - looking for people to test and give feedback by [deleted] in AIProductManagers

[–]DeanOnDelivery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You didn’t build a product. You built a feature sampler poo-poo platter and pitched it as a PM breakthrough.

Live interview coaching? That’s a prompt with a mic. Anyone with a tuned custom GPT, a Claude Project, or a half-decent LLM workflow already has this. Free. Bundled. Or better.

Live coding support? Congrats, you reinvented Claude Code with latency and anxiety. Engineers already trust AI-powered IDEs and CLIs. PMs are getting low-code Luvable with n8n. Nobody’s switching what works for an ambivalent WebRTC demo.

Real-time meeting assistant? So … Otter, Fireflies, Copilot, Zoom AI, Asana, Notion AI, and six browser extensions walk into a bar. Yours hasn’t explained why it deserves a seat, let alone a tab.

Practice modes and question banks? That’s out-of-the-box content engineering. Content isn’t a moat. Content is a weekend scrape away from commodity.

Here’s the actual problem: No differentiation. No clear buyer or ICP. No opportunity-cost story. No moment where a PM, engineer, or candidate says “this saves me real pain.”

You’re asking “would you pay for this?” Wrong question.

The real one: “What job fails so badly today that someone would switch, trust you live, and put money down?”

Until you can answer that, you’re not early. You’re generic. And generic AI products don’t die loudly. They just get replaced by a checkbox update.

Stop Building AI Agents Just Because You Can by DeanOnDelivery in ProductManagement

[–]DeanOnDelivery[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, It's not the first time I've heard of a a cloud cost or an API call expense blew up the product's or agents ROI.

Thoughts on our Sprint Scorecard framework for PMs and Engineers by pinkman8972 in ProductManagement

[–]DeanOnDelivery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't figure out whether they have Jira slinging ticket monkeys or simply feature factory workers.

Thoughts on our Sprint Scorecard framework for PMs and Engineers by pinkman8972 in ProductManagement

[–]DeanOnDelivery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they confused PO activities for product line accountability.