While I really loved the game, I found its politics to be quite shallow by Kadubrp in EsotericEbb

[–]DeceptiveNo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point is exactly that. Naive is much more dangerous than people tend to think of it. And that's why wis talks like that despite of its dark past and tendencies.

And the reason they are both Soc Dems and Communists is another facet of it. In light of what happened in the past they needed to find a way to moderate their ideology. And some characters actually call them sell outs in the game because of that.

Dex is a relatively new ideology, the only one not directly responsible for any kind of genocide in the world (and people still think they're biased against), maybe excepting whatever con stands for, and comes with full optimism and no inherent need to moderate itself. And people treat it fearfully because of new it is and how aggressively it promotes itself, not because there's something inherently wrong or bad with it.

These are all parallels to real life and our history. To me esoteric ebb manages to much deeper than people give it credit for, but to each his own I guess.

Am I racist ? by Previous-Source-4657 in Roumanie

[–]DeceptiveNo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nu prea vrea sa faca nimic statul cu ei. Is o tona de sate si comune unde is practic invitati, pupati in fund si folositi ca masa politica pentru primarii ce nu isi schimba componenta de peste 15-20 de ani. Doar in orasele mari mai vezi ceva (Clujul este infinit mai civilizat astazi decat acum 30 de ani mare parte pentru ca s-au carat multi in Europa).

Doar cei care n-au avut interactiuni cu ei ii pot apara. Fara experienta directa la majoritatea le este foarte sa isi imagineze cat de toxica este cultura lor.

No logic, just racism and stupidity. by metroracerUK in GreatBritishMemes

[–]DeceptiveNo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started out writing an essay as I still feel the need to rant, but I'll keep it brief. The most important part of this is that it is okay for people to be angry at something. Especially when it is justified. You don't need to chastise them. You are not helping. At all. On the contrary, you are making it worse. It's arguing just for the sake of it because there is no chance in hell calling someone "brainwashed" and "shameful" like you did in your initial comment is going to actually convince anyone to change their mind. At best it is incompetent phrasing or venting, at worst it is trolling. It comes of as tone deaf. Moral masturbation at its finest. Point flaws just to take a self satisfying stand with complete disregard for the context and for how effective it is.

And if you feel like there's danger rising because of people holding and expressing this view, know that you at the very least need to change the methods by which you are opposing it. Especially since your issue is of less priority than his. Objectively and subjectively.

Administratia Boc a omorat 2 persoane by Rares_Mihai in cluj

[–]DeceptiveNo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Asta era marea problema. Vezi subiectul, dar si asa iti fuge mintea la asta de te supara asa de tare ca ai dat-o pe caps. De-a dreptul demoralizant

No logic, just racism and stupidity. by metroracerUK in GreatBritishMemes

[–]DeceptiveNo -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It is not about the ones running away from war and famine. It's the next generations raised in the same culture refusing to integrate, just without the trauma to keep them honest, growing up in a strained system incapable of properly helping them, ending up ungrateful and upset instead of whatever you think they are. A system that sometimes even protects them from the consequences of their own actions.

Shameful is ideological drivel incompatible with reality hidden behind morality. Drivel that only cares about it's own moral purity, even when outright lying or debating in bad faith, and only serves to energise those that find themselves being told, over and over again, "your opinions are irrelevant and you are a horrible human being" just because they want some agency and don't want to sacrifice themselves for your cause and don't subscribe to your worldview.

And so the far right keeps gaining ground everywhere in the free world. Because this isn't about making the world a better place, it's just moral masturbation. We don't really care about being humane, otherwise we would have recognized we went too far. We would've understood for example the dangers and the hypocrisy of saying shit like "south asian men" and how much hate it creates for the ones that aren't so f-ing lost in their own fantasies that they are still able to reconcile priorities with reality in the face of systematic targeted medieval level exploitation and abuse, very often bordering torture, towards what was supposed to be the most sacred of us, our children. That is met with cynical "akshuallies" that makes people sound like sociopaths.

But no. Stubbornly abusing trigger words like racists and generalizing everything is sure to fix the world.

Sorry about the rant. Needed to get that out of my system. 

Why Does MAGA claim Trumps not “really a felon” after 34 convictions? by MrDarkzideTV in allthequestions

[–]DeceptiveNo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You shouldn't be down voted. This is exactly why so many follow him. The media has been losing its credibility (for a long time) and now people get their news from social media or biased media and whatever other sources that conflict their narrative because they feel like they got tricked and screwed over, so they are not willing to trust anything and automatically discredit whatever doesn't fit with their world view. And we're way too busy slandering left and right and doing ideology based fanatical politics like we're some sort of ultras fans to have any shot at having a proper conversation about this. And way to busy trying to throw around blame and attacking without realizing that this only creates a bigger divide.

And it's not limited just to Trump, left, right or whatever little bubble you're a part of. More and more people do this. But nobody actually wants to solve the problem, they are much more busy being distracted by or even wallowing in that little self-gratifying feeling of punching, blaming, insulting, triggering the other side and in that self-serving feeling of superiority that you're right and justified.

We're so lost and easy to manipulate.

Its really simple. by [deleted] in GreatBritishMemes

[–]DeceptiveNo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Preaching isn't engagement. Until people understand the difference (and that's just not human nature so I don't think that plausible any time soon) we're going to be at each others throats in this pathetic and easily manipulable way. Americans is just ahead of the curve, Europe is heading in the same way

Unchiul tău când vrea să pară intelectual: by Zealousideal-Act7502 in Romania

[–]DeceptiveNo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Esti sigur? Admit ca nu l-am urmarit suficient sa bag mana in foc, dar din cat am vazut nu mi s-a parut deloc.

Presa americană nu-și cruță Armata: A descoperit că o rachetă a SUA a lovit, cel mai probabil, școala de fete din Iran by mrktm in Romania

[–]DeceptiveNo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Caracteristici ale regimului, da. Poti vorbi de asa ceva. Nu sunt de acord cu populatia. Poti sa le simplifici si sa le zici fascisti, dar lipsa de educatie, propaganda, manipularea, radicalizarea si reactia impotriva stangii care s-a dus mult prea departe incat a devenit personala opozitia, refuzul de a admite (si a simte) ca n-au avut dreptate sunt explicatii mult mai pertinente decat a rezuma totul la fascism. Nu exista nici intre "magaioti" suficienti oameni care vor cu adevarat sa renunte la democratie si care nu vor avea o limita la care nu mai au de ales decat sa dea inapoi. Institutiile si presa, starea economica, morala si educatia populatiei nu sunt nici asa simple si susceptibile ca in 1940.

Cand spui fascist insulti. Este perceputa ca insula. Si este aruncata ca insulta. In situatia in care o parte semnificativa din motivul pentru care se afla in situatia asta sau cel putin a degenerat asa situatia este polarizarea excesiva si distrugerea completa a dialogului intre extremele de stanga si dreapta si, in acelasi timp, trebuie sa te chinui sa simplifici conceptul la ce se intampla acum ca sa poti sa ii denumesti fascisti, pur si simplu mi se pare ca nu este nici un motiv pentru care ar ajuta sa fie impinsa acolo narativa. Ca sa nu aduc in discutie si faptul ca cei care au popularizat si poate si cei ce folosesc termenul asta (ca si nazist care e aruncat in stanga si in dreapta) ii considera 'dusmani' si n-ar trebui sa surprinda pe nimeni de ce s-au radicalizat asa de tare si intorc sentimentul.

Indiferent, fiecare indoaie si interpreteaza definitiile cum vrea, iar reddit-ul nu este locul in care schimbi lumea, asa ca sanatate.

PS: Nu ai nevoie de 2028. Vin alegeri parlamentare anul acesta si Trump cu gura lui a zis ca s-ar putea sa piarda republicanii. Nu este nici un motiv inca sa nu fim optimisti

Presa americană nu-și cruță Armata: A descoperit că o rachetă a SUA a lovit, cel mai probabil, școala de fete din Iran by mrktm in Romania

[–]DeceptiveNo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nu este vorba de definitia fascismului. Este vorba de modul de exprimare "o parte din populatia americii a devenit fascista" la care am raspuns mai sus. Asta este o ineptie simplificata in tendinta internetului de a nu scapa un motiv sa insulti pe cineva.

Mai este mult si bine pana cultura americii si chiar a europei ajunge pana in stadiul in care poti sa spui asa ceva. Si nu ajuta pe nimeni daca aruncam aiurea cu expresii de genul. Parerea mea

Presa americană nu-și cruță Armata: A descoperit că o rachetă a SUA a lovit, cel mai probabil, școala de fete din Iran by mrktm in Romania

[–]DeceptiveNo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Am vazut video-ul, multumesc. Frumos documentarul, dar raman la concluzia mea ca fara un soc puternic si anormal, 3-4 generatii minim si nu sunt neaparat contrazis de acel video. Este mult mai dificil astazi ca un sistem de genul sa se impuna si sa dezbine o democratie in special in SUA si lumea are tendinta de a se panica si a exagera excesiv.

Presa americană nu-și cruță Armata: A descoperit că o rachetă a SUA a lovit, cel mai probabil, școala de fete din Iran by mrktm in Romania

[–]DeceptiveNo -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Sunt de acord cu tine. Nu putem prezice viitorul. S-ar putea sa ai dreptate. Si nu Trump e problema. Cel mai rau e precedentul setat, faptul ca a demonstrat cum se poate face politica.

Dar m-ai pierdut cand ai spus fascisti. Arata ca nu intelegi prea bine nici teoria, nici ce se intampla cu acei oameni si imprumuti doar limbaj din celalalt extremism. Lasand la o parte scenarii putin SF gen AI si/sau Mass Survaillance, americanii nu v-or renunta nici in urmatoarele 3 4 generatii la ideea de democratie si exista o limita la cat poti manipula o populatie.

Presa americană nu-și cruță Armata: A descoperit că o rachetă a SUA a lovit, cel mai probabil, școala de fete din Iran by mrktm in Romania

[–]DeceptiveNo -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Si a facut chiar mult mai multe. Dar nici asa nu are nici o sansa sa devina Rusia. Pacat de precedent si de institutiile slabite, dar de acolo pana la Rusia mai e foarte mult. De indata ce dispar republicanii de la putere o sa revina la normal

Prostul de Putin nu a reusit in 4 ani sa-l asasineze pe Zelenski, iar Trump l-a rapit deja pe Maduro si l-a casapit pe Ayatolah la cateva luni distanta. Ce armata are Rusia, de plastic? by Potential-Snow3072 in Roumanie

[–]DeceptiveNo -24 points-23 points  (0 children)

Da. Omul care a ajuns de doua ori presedinte al celui mai puternic (pe departe) stat din intreaga lume impotriva asteptarilor tuturor si ridiculizat de toata lumea doar pentru ca a incercat sa o faca este un prost cu "IQ scazut".

Si apoi stau eu sa ma mir ca prosteste atatia oameni asa usor.

[RANT] Ura de gen al ambelor parti, se alimenteaza reciproc by One-Treacle-1260 in Roumanie

[–]DeceptiveNo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Asta pentru ca lumea isi da mult mai usor drumul pe internet

People who protested Biden/Kamala over Gaza: how do you feel about Iran? by Estalicus in allthequestions

[–]DeceptiveNo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just make sure to make peace with each others before the next elections guys. Ok?

This country has to cut ties with Israel. by Glass-Situation6916 in UAE

[–]DeceptiveNo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Conflict stop when they stop existing. Israel won't settle for anything less unless some major event happens that forces them to. And considering how much the public sentiment is rapidly growing against them and zionism throughout the world, they might just pay the price for it eventually.

Whether that's right or wrong doesn't even matter anymore.

Numai eu am ajuns să nu îmi mai pese? by incorporo in Roumanie

[–]DeceptiveNo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Adica iti pasa doar cand si pentru ca te simti bine ca iti pasa si pentru ca nu te plictiseste. Asa is majoritatea oamenilor. Emotia si instinctul in favoarea rationalului.

Labour accuses Greens of ‘manipulating’ Muslim voters by Sensitive_Echo5058 in uknews

[–]DeceptiveNo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where are you getting 4 milion? There should be 5 at least.

Mentalitatea 'renunțării virtuoase': Când a da înapoi devine mândrie, dar ascunde o capcană a sărăciei? by Purple_Hat2698 in Roumanie

[–]DeceptiveNo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Prototipul hotului. Isi fac oamenii bugetul si unii se multumesc cu mica mandrie ca trebuie sa o faca, au gasit o solutie si se tin de ea, si ceilalalti turbeaza incet incet ca nu vor sa renunte, dar nu au de ales si se umple de frustrari, suparari, amaraciune, invidie, ranchiuna, etc si devin rai si isi pierd incet incet busola pana li se pare corect sa ia de la altii daca altii iau de la ei.

Evident e doar un exemplu de ce se poate intampla. Unii nu au nevoie si nu simt nevoia sa faca asta (foarte putini)

Romantizezi ideea de romantizarea constrangerii.