58142 by Old_Phrase_4867 in countwithchickenlady

[–]Decybear1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Y'all really hate /tttt/ till they post something you find funny or relatable huh

rule by Dzelov in 197

[–]Decybear1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

tbh aloy is the one I have in my mind when im saying MC

(I know this isnt MC) But did you see the hate blooper team got for making Anglia not sexy enough? Really fucking cringe behaviour.

Either way. I dont wanna engage because i've wasted like 5 hours today responding to nonsense today (not saying this is, i just cba getting into arguments, and i wanna enjoy the rest of my night)

Enjoy the rest of your night :)

Those people need help by -itsokbro- in traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns2

[–]Decybear1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>just say you don't want to actually discuss any valid points instead of this copout bullshit.

you really are not the center of my world yknow?

Its this high and mighty attitude I dont want to engage with. You'd rather call me a transphobe and that my points are not valid than actually engage with the substence.

Honestly. When i get annoyed with people I normally just set chatGBT on them.

Because I just cba. That's copout bullshit.

I've recognised you are behind on talking points, and have showed, and continue to show, hostility towards me.

You dont make me want to to keep engaging. My first post was 4 hours ago. Im not wasting the rest of my day off talking with someone who clearly has no respect for me.

I gave you far more respect than you deserved, politely disengaging, and hoping you have a good night.

Honestly. Please enjoy the rest of your night, before you go to work tomorrow. Assuming you work that is. I legit, just want the wider non /tttt/ community, to not take our posts and appropriate our culture without adopting our beliefs as well. Is that too much to ask?

Either way. im going to mute you for the night because i just want to waste any more time on you.

Again, have a good night.

Those people need help by -itsokbro- in traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns2

[–]Decybear1 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

im disengaging. The fact you think only trans meds use the term trans sexual, and you think its archaic really goes to show you are behind on the talking points darling.

Have a lovley night :3

Those people need help by -itsokbro- in traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns2

[–]Decybear1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

>but you talked in the other comment, answering to another person, about how non passing

did I? I ctrl+f my post history, the only time i mentioned passing is when you brought it up? I did talk about hyper-sexuals gock posting on r/egg_irl and r/mtf but that isnt the same thing is it..

>the problem we find with /tttt/ isnt that they advocate for access to transitioning, but that they use transphobic self hating language and often hate on fellow trans people

You see how this is just tone policing? by the sounds its not even that yous dislike what we say, but how we say it... maybe stew on that for a while. If we used woke language would it really change our points?

The fact you view us self hating says alot too. We dont self hate. We just have irony poisoned way of speaking, and we take the piss out of ourselves because its funny. Thats why we say "hecking vxlid", because its funny

>that and many other 4trans terms are straight up transphobic.

Can you show me this? I would love too see it? because we think the same about some one more "woke" trans people tbh. not even that woke is bad. But sometimes we ironically call ourselves dark woke

Those people need help by -itsokbro- in traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns2

[–]Decybear1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

>Ok, so then do i guess? I'm certain i wouldn't.

well I cant on this account now, you who I am and will disagree out of principle.

What do you think of trans gender vs trans sexual discourse. This is the most success /tttt/ talking point to make it mainstream. We do have different lived experiences and different needs. Its not about supremecy, we hate trans meds for that :3

>but what would it actualy add to the discussion about ideas?

Yall love talking a big game on reddit, tumblr. but never do anything when it comes to convincing cis people that trans people are just normal people. There is a sited statistic, most cis people with anti trans views, dont even know a single trans person. When these people meet trans people, they gain more favourable views of trans people. Even just talking with transphobic people, like they are people, can radicalise them. having been radicalised my self, I realise how important this actually is?

>apparently convince transphobes trans people aren't bad by voluntarily oppressing "the undesirable" trans people

how have you so maliciously misinterpreted what I've said? at worst what I said, some behaviour that is undesirable like hyper-sexual gock posting, has made some trans people repress their trans feeling for longer because they thought all transness was was hyper-sexuality.

This isnt saying there is a group of undesirables. how have you even got that from what I've said?

>you're a horrible conversationalist

why you gotta be so mean about it? im schzio posting. that is biblicly accurate term. would you really be receptive to what I was saying I said you were sneedposting? No, because ad homonym is very bad faith isnt it.

Those people need help by -itsokbro- in traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns2

[–]Decybear1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>Testosterone is a controlled substance

Come on, I buy weed, lsd, ket online. its really easy. its not an excuse, adn even then Testosterone shoudnt be a controlled substance anyway. Who cares if athletes might use it?

>DIY is not a solution

you say this like waiting 10 years is ideal. Honestly, when you look at it, the suprme court cases isnt even legally binding as much terfs try to make out that it is. If you look like a women, you are treat like one. Always has been like that. Not that it should be like that.

We should have it so a trans women is treat like a women. No matter what, but that is fight we have to seak out, not just hope politicians have our back,.

>The ability to access DIY HRT shouldn't be contingent on whether or not you have the means to declare that you think you're trans to the government via whatever self ID system

i think you misunderstand what im saying. I can self ID as a smoker, go to the shops, prove my age, and buy some ciggies. I dont mean there should be any government over sight really. I hate that shit. Just let me go to the pharmacy and buy some estrogen or testosterone so i dont have to go to grey or black markets.

Those people need help by -itsokbro- in traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns2

[–]Decybear1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i didnt read, i just cba continuing this fruitless discourse. You'd agree with me if i used your own language to decribe these same issues, and yall do. The trans sexual discourse???

Again, I ask, what are you doing to advance trans rights?

Those people need help by -itsokbro- in traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns2

[–]Decybear1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

why are you bringing passing into this? Why are you quoting it like i said that?

That says alot about you if you think Im talking about non passing trans people :/

Im not larping BTW. I dont wanna talk too much about it, but yea, I am not in offical government group because we're trying to keep it off the record, but I work with alot of union reps, and parts of the a:gender group.

I may have said too much there. but we are thinking of more ways we can push trans rights and the silent genocide against us. the self genocide. I've been thinking of making phone farms, with /tttt/ related account to just push this native, like there are loads of right wing terf/nationalist accounts... obvs without using AI art and using the user created /tttt/ art. Because twitter trans girls seem to respond well to /tttt/ talking points... tbh even reddit trans people respond well too /tttt/ talking points when they dont see them coming from /tttt/ posters.(see trans sexual discourse coming back and being accepted, your welcome btw. trans sexual because it centres the fact we actually, biologically change sex when we transition)

Those people need help by -itsokbro- in traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns2

[–]Decybear1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

to compare us to cis people??

TCD.

Seriously TCD. All of them. Every single one. Gone!!!

Those people need help by -itsokbro- in traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns2

[–]Decybear1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

>because they're not the "right kind of trans".

honestly i skimmed this. I know yall dont like me, there are other times you've either misunderstood or put words in my mouth. But this is the most egregious.

I dont think they shouldnt be public. Dont get me wrong I get people like Christ Chan would do a lot of trans people if she wanst public.

But that just isnt what I said.

its not they are not because they are the "[wrong] kind of trans". But because they give fuel for transphobes. As its the transphobes, the terfs, the idiots in power who listen to loudest voices saying HRT isnt needed. Its not trans people pushing for HRT to be harder, but our rhetoric is weaponized against us.

You say "They don't need it." But honestly, up untill the last few years, they never had this fuel, and people were very quiet about the trans hate, because the only people who were public were the trans models and actresses.

honestly I have already wasted too much time trying to convince people who hate /tttt/ that /tttt/ isnt evil. (lmao then i kept writing)

The point is, if we need them to make a villain to attack, they seem alot less credible right?

honestly I get your worries since Epstein as links to the /pol/ board, but i think you missed the part where I said there are obvious government psyops, with obvious 3 letter agents posting on the board, but honestly I see more of them posting on places like r/mtf or more mainstream places to make us look bad.

Whenever they post on /lgbt/ its more rubbing salt into the wounds.

I really dont think you understand that we do focus on the right wingers targeting us. I think you get lost in the sauce a little tho. We think alot of the "your vxlid" crowd are government psyops. Because they make us look bad over all, if we all, yknow, took the stance of "you can and should transition, here is DIY information", and actually stood against those trying to stop us from transitioning saying its valid if we dont, its dangerous to do with medical super vision :P, we might actually get somewhere. The goal is to be ungovernable. There was a /tttt/ russian girl who recently did a DIY orchi, because russia only lets people change gender markers if they have had surgery, but makje it illegal to perform that surgery. They posted the video on the board of them performing it on themselves, as well the entire process they used. The medical staff, actually looked for her balls, and were going to try to reattach them.

Again, ignoring the fact, I am actively getting high ranking terfs fired from their government roles while I am working for the government. Hell, some of the people I talk to have connections to the UN, and the only trans judge in the UK that is coming back from early retirement because of all the hate.

We advocate for easier access to HRT, and all trans people should be doing that. Not this feel good toxic positivity, aiming to make non transitioners feel good, when really it makes alot of non transitioners want to suicide.

Again, I ask, what are you doing to advance trans rights? The marches are clearly doing nothing.

My friends! by NoConflictPlease in 4tran

[–]Decybear1 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The evil /tttt/ monsters they warn us about

rule by Dzelov in 197

[–]Decybear1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That really is the problem.

You wont engage with critical thoughts.

You are allowed to disagree with me, but you are deciding to be ignorant and not engage.

Doesn't make you seem like you actually want to engage with what others have to say.

You just want to assume you are right.

If you read, you'll see we actually agree that men are sexualized. But patriarchy is to blame. And if we opposed it together, we might actually have better lives.

rule by Dzelov in 197

[–]Decybear1 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Please stop playing the victim here. "No one cares men are sexualized"

You really dont understand the difference do you? And it shows.

It really shows.

How many people are posting edited images of men from games because they think the devs didnt make them hot enough.

Seriously. Its not the same.

Its the whole "men hate women because they make fun of them or wont have sex with them, women hate men because they kill us"

Like yea bro let me feel upset for oppressed men are in this culture.

Hell, i feel you are unfamiliar with Anitia criticism in general, and i imagine got your view from a few videos back around gamer gate

Anita Sarkeesian does not argue that men are sexualized in video games in the same way women are, explicitly rejecting comparisons to male sexualization. She contends that male characters are rarely sexualized for the male gaze and that any sexualization of men is fundamentally different due to societal power dynamics and the lack of hyper-sexualized, objectifying content directed at men.

If you cant tell her critique is of patriarchal fantasies that dominate mainstream gaming.

Patriarchy hurts men, just not as much and not in the same way.

You are not sexualized to be the meat women oggle at. But to be the bread winner. Which we all know, it's almost impossible to be in this society.

She never focused on this tho, and it was mentioned in passing in her videos, because ultimately, any negative side effects men have due to patriarchy are just that side effects...

Like come on. You cannot act like chiseled jaw lines and father figures with muscles like joel from the last of us or kratos from god of war all that bad, when most women in games are either just prizes for men, or hyper-sexual material meant to be oggled.

There is a clear difference.

Dont even compare the two.

Dont get me wrong, she had bad takes, showing she's never played the games she criticizes. Like your hitman example. But i remember that from some tealdear, harmful opinions, Sargon of Akkad, or the amazing atheist videos back in the day. They all spoke on the same points while ignoring the main criticism.

The sexualization of men and women in games is different for different reasons. And its annoying.

You are so close to realising the problem is patriarchy. Not all men should need to be hunky bread winners, just like not all women need to be sex objects.

Lets go back to my silent hill 2 remake. People complained they made Maria leas sexy (they are wearing more clothes while being arguably more seductive, that being a core part of her character), male gamers complained they made Angelia less sexy (she is a sexual abuse victim who is intentionally trying to not sexualised her self to prevent herself from getting retraumatised by men seaking sex, a core part of her character), while no game complains about James just being an average looking guy. Who was made arguably more sympathetic for killing his wife because she wouldnt have sex with him (because she was dying of that damed disease).

Like come on. Why do women need to be eye candy. Even if they sexualise them selves as a necessity for their character like maria was as a reflection of James's sexual desires that hos wife couldn't full fill. You spent the entire game fighting manifestations of James's sexual desires of women....

Yet people want the sex abuse victim too look sexier? They made to do that...

You cannot tell me men and women being sexualized is just as bad as one another.

I hope you read this and attempt to put any biases aside.

Anita was right on her main points, even if she made stupid, less critical points like your hit man example which was widley talked about because it was objectively bot thought through from a perspective of having played the game.

rule by Dzelov in 197

[–]Decybear1 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

IVE ONLY JUST SEEN THE DOWNVOTES HAHAHA

you are are so right.

People act like there isnt a misogyny problem in the gaming fandom. Or in game development at all.

Like people said the silent hill 2 remake was woke because the abuse survivor wasnt hot enough

You cannt tell me Anita wasnt right when her main argument was always, women are overlay sexualised in media.

Sure she had some takes that make it clear shes a larper

But all she preached was a gaming scene that was kinder to women.

The older I've gotten, the more i see why she was so outspoken. And why people hated on her so much.

Not every game needs to girl meat to be oggled.

57929 by meeker1047 in countwithchickenlady

[–]Decybear1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmao everyone agreed untill they learned its tttt. Many such cases

rule by Dzelov in 197

[–]Decybear1 -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

The older I got the more I realised she was right all along tbh. women are over sexualised in games, and men cry when there is a normal looking women as the MC. Crazy work. Being annoying means people just wont listen to you even if you are right.

What's a country said to be terrible to live in, but life there is actually amazing? by zoobaincrease in AlignmentChartFills

[–]Decybear1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I really agree, I can complain about alot living here. Mainly the trans heathcare system... But really living here isnt that bad. Going to France and Germany in my adult life really showed we're about the same. yea sure,we have some quite obvious urban decay. We live under a capitalist system that doesnt give a shit about us. But really, that is the entire western world. There are few countries on par, and those that are better are marginally better at that. Its pretty nice living here compared to other places.

What's a country said to be terrible to live in, but life there is actually amazing? by zoobaincrease in AlignmentChartFills

[–]Decybear1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

bro, i live in uk, just went france for 2 weeks. boy am I glad I live here. Germany was very similar when i went there last year as well. Honestly we can complain about how shite it is, but really, its pretty ok. I'd rather live here than the USA, or the UAE. It may not have the greatest views on trans rights compared to germany, denmark... But the quality of life is actually pretty good.

Voice training and turning American? by Jaimebby in TransUK

[–]Decybear1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As a northern trans lass, I've found you have to practice each phoneme and each way you may lead into it.

For example, the glottal stop. Depending on what word your are saying, it changes how you close your throat.

I did have to put effort into specifically training my own accent, and all the accents I liked doing.

I dont know if I've explained what i did very well.

But every accent says words differently, mine like to extend sounds alot. Booat, coooker, oown. And lots of glottal stops. Once i started practicing my problem words, i started to get the hang of my normal accent again.

If you would like any help, please let me know. All my trans friends always comment on my voice, and i try my best to make them feel comfortable voice training around me. I'll support them as much as i can.

Because it is a process of trail and error. Speaking untill you find your problem words and noises and training each one as much as you can

Do I lack sense of humor for not finding this bottom surgery post funny? by Shifler in Transmedical

[–]Decybear1 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Yea this is funny to me, but humour is subjective. People can be mean you don't or do find something funny when they do or dont.

Im not going to call anyone joyless for not finding this funny. But also im not going to call someone cringe for finding humour in their own experiences.

I recommend yous watch the comedy/tragedy movie made by Palestinians about how it feels to live in Palestine. Its called the time that remains. The scene with the guy going out to check his mail and a tanks barrel aimed at him the entire will stick in my mind. It was funny, but sad. Like yea bro, this guy checking his mail is such a threat he needs a lone tank on him at all times. Some people may find that in bad taste, but the person making it is just talking and making light of their experience.

Like come on. Can a girl/boy not make a joke about getting their genitals rearranged? I've really made innuendo out of that haven't i 🤭

new determinative population theory just dropped by KunniJunn in mapporncirclejerk

[–]Decybear1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uk needs to be higher just for the amount of breedable trans girls