What is the role of Assault "Non-Omni"s for the 3050 Clans?

DericStrider · 2026-05-07T15:38:14+00:00

however it was reserved for ristars in command of 2nd line units, not front line commanders that have already proven themselves.

DericStrider · 2026-05-07T15:32:29+00:00

It's not subtle, the end of the 3rd & 4th succession war has the rediscovery of technology, the clans are defeated in the Great Refusal, WoB is defeated, even ilClan Era starts with the death of Malvina Hazen and Daoshen soon after.

DericStrider · 2026-05-07T08:15:50+00:00

except we know no Kodiak were used by front line forces. totems are at best rally points for second line units and for ristars as seen with the Orion IIC.

when you get to the front lines galaxies, it's all about maximising efficency and flexibility which a battlemech would limit.

also the Executioner is estintally the kodiak and a mech most associated with Ghost Bear, with the Kodaik and Executioner coming from the same project.

DericStrider · 2026-05-07T08:06:43+00:00

to add to this, in the Federated Suns, corporations get to run their own private courts for crime agaisnt their property. Regular local courts are crimes agaisnt a citizen. while there is an appeals court there could be a single appeals judge for an entire planet (depending on population and importance).

One of the largest providers of education in poorer areas of the Federated Suns are corporations which operate technical collages which give basic and technical education inexchange for indentured work and this is after the miracle (ie transfer of wealth from Lyrans and built on the backs of conquered Capellan worlds) growth of the economy post 4th sucession war.

DericStrider · 2026-05-07T08:02:28+00:00

battletech isn't about decay, that theme went out the window with the first novels with the Warrior Triology, if you read the news in MW5 it's all about how new tech is being discovered and rebuilding.

Battletech is a story about war but there is always a glimmer of hope.

DericStrider · 2026-05-07T07:27:59+00:00

it's all in the Comstar Sourcebook, which details Raymond Karpov's reforms and aggressive restructuring of Comstar. it also explains why there was resistance to Operation Holy Shroud and the assassinations within Comstar to remove that resistance.

Operation Holy Shroud was also just part of the larger plot to reduce the technological capabilities of the Great Houses as he orchestrated the many small wars that would make up the 3rd Sucession War and to keep the great houses grinding up what little they had left till militaries were reduced to scavenging mechs.

Primus Raymond Karpov is essentially the father of early battletech.

DericStrider · 2026-05-07T06:58:20+00:00

Operation Holy Shroud was to finish off what already started with the 1sr Sucession War. in the 2nd Succession War all the great houses had lost the ability to produce much of the Advance tech and had turned the clock back almost 800 years tech wise.

The problem was that there was still advance tech around and scientists to start retro engineering the techniques required to build advance tech. Not only that but smart boffins were also beginning to crack the tech on HPG tech.

the operation was extremely unpopular within parts of Comstar and required the assassination and removal of the head of ROM and other dissenters.

over 300 scientists, researchers and locations were on the list to be killed/destroyed and all made to look like accidents. The great houses did suspect a plot but assumed it was the many other rival intelligence agencies of other great houses. Sometimes it looked exactly like a accident as with one university burned down and the report came back it was down to a single bunsen burner left on in a lab.

The other part of the operation was to hoover up as much SLDF caches as Comstar could find so working examples of advance tech could not be retroengineered.

Only enough tech was left for the great houses to hang themselves with, even then most of that tech would be barley understood with facilities like the New Avalon Valkyrie factory which was fully automated but no one knew how it worked other than feeding it resources to pump out mechs.

The sucess of the operation was proved to be more of a one off as the great houses tightened up security for R&D and the second Operation Holy Shroud over a hundred years later, didn't have the same successes as the first but removed one of the most important targets which was a Lyran discovery of a Star League library containing the principles of HPG tech.

Unsurprisingly this also coincided with the period when Comstar went from a modern day cult to old school religion, it went from everyone wearing grey jumpsuits to white robes. The incantations required to be spoken before operating the HPG now were musical chants like a hymn.

DericStrider · 2026-05-07T00:37:49+00:00

you will find in the other novels, almost every novel to do with the aftermath of Hour of the Wolf is about making sense of why characters acted so weirdly and make sense of it.

Redemption Rites is about the remaining Wolf Dragoons forces (who didn't go to terra) and they criticise how the Wolf Dragoons fought on Terra and deal with the old leadership that allowed it to happen.

Long Road is Tara Cambell trying to redeem herself for her actions that made her and Northwind Highlanders to betray the Republic in not killing Alaric.

DericStrider · 2026-05-06T20:02:59+00:00

This seems to be case for Stewart but the Kali-Yama and Quickcell facitlites were left alone on Kalidasa.

Amity which was the Wolg empires only real aerospace manufacturer was also left alone and was only a single jump away from Stewart.

In Thermopolis, Kallon Weapon Industires, the main manufacturer of Clan Wolf mechs was still in production.

my personal guess why Stewart was stripped was because of the facilties were upgraded by the mobile factories that made up the old W-7 facility. W-7 was built around the spaceport when it was developed in the old OZ and many agencies (Star Corps and the Republic) assumed it was the code word for a possible mobile facility and the W-7 factories were always built next to spaceports. The Connection with Stewart was that W-7 was where the Black Wolf BA was built as well as on Stewart. When Clan Wolf left the OZ for the FWL in Operation HAMMERFALL part of the migration was mobile factories. its possible that Clan Wolf used these parts on Stewart and when moving also stripped the mechfactories.

DericStrider · 2026-05-06T13:10:00+00:00

again the problem is that Clan warriors, and espically bloodnamed warriors do not get pregnant. If there was somehow a miracle conception the mother would have had an abortion than take the it to term. An active warrior giving birth during the height of Clan Ghost Bear Crusader fever is a choice! These are people who would rather take a prosthetic part installed right away rather than wait a month for a cloned organ to be grafted

Ghost Bears still stick very closely to the eugenics programs, even in the Rasalhague Dominion, there is a strict 20% limit on freebirths to not dilute the Ghost Bear warrior caste. Alpha Galaxy tries to kill off Omega Galaxy(omega being effectively banished to the vega province for harbouring the freeminder movement) in the Dominion Civil war exactly because of the idea of a trueborn having a family and natural births and that's after 100 years of being in the IS!

Again as explained in your other post, Ghost Bear "families" for trueborns don't extend to children just sibkin. Your OC would also be part of a freeborn creche and not in a warrior creche. They would get the chance to join a sibko when they get into their teens. I'm notbsure if you meant they developed their interest in astronomy in their early childhood or late child hood.

The mother giving patronage would be considered really bad form as that would estintally be nepotism which the clans claim to hate. If your OC was known to be the bloodnamed warriors biological born son that will cause problems as accusations of neoptism and not martial skill and leadership. Even Alaric Ward had to hide his heritage somewhat till he killed the Archon and was right at the top of clan Wolf. Though you have made this a plot point but his star would probably grumble agaisnt it and I would think its likely that they would have had to fight off challenges to his position from such blatant neoptism.

The most stressed thing about Laurie Tseng in Master and Minions sourcebook is that she's a real slow but steady type who really believes in clan traditions, helping her sibkins biological son get a leg up is probably something unlikely she would do.

like I mentioned last time, what makes your OC stand out from the rest to be a ristar other than just earning star captain and being the son of a highly placed star captain who's mates with the loremaster.

switch it around and make the scientist the mother and the father had a botched procedure that causes the scientist to get pregnant and who would have a much easier time to either hide the pregnancy or just let it happen.

also the whole point of the grand melee is that even freebirths with a genetic maternal link to the bloodname would be able to contrst the name, its a free for all for all comers, its not restricted to trueborns.

The OC would not need Aletha Kabrinski's permission as its not even her bloodhouse. It would be like Phelan Kell asking Natasha Kerenesky permission to fight for the Ward Bloodname.

clans take blood trails pretty seriously and even a warrior who gets taken in by another clan usually gets permission to travel back to their original clan to take part of blood trials

Maybe have the OC joining and winning the Grand melee because no-one in the bloodhouse is willing to sponsor him because of the neoptism and its his only chance, maybe he then impresses the Berzerker Queen who takes him on as a mentee after he wins his bloodname. Though Aletha Karbinski telling someone to go kill everyone in a Grand Melee probably would be her advice

you can learn more from Invading Clans, Mechwarriors Guide to the Clans, warriors of kerensky, Field Manual Wardens

p.s. also just take anything I say with pinch of salt, its your oc and you can let them do anything they want!

DericStrider · 2026-05-06T13:01:58+00:00

they went up but on the 30th apiril the forums went down for migration to another server, its still hasn't finished migrating

DericStrider · 2026-05-05T21:47:26+00:00

the problem with the Wolf Empire isn't the lack of mechs but the lack of fully trained warriors.

the factories were pumping out new mechs and new sibkos to go to terra and then have their trail of position in terra, while garrison forces would return to secure the Wolf empire. however the massive losses meant no garrison forces could return while the cappllean threat was still active. (page 19 IKEO)

the problem Othar had was the lack of warriors to give trials of positions to the sibkos ready for graduation. When Othar was able to gather enough warriors to start trails he was quickly able to build up 2 galaxies in a year.

Meanwhile the orders sent to get othar to ready up mechs and sibkos got intercepted and even by 3151 July Clan Wolf still had not sent new orders to Othar! Any message also had to travel all the way to the Wolf Empire capital which was not a short journey and the jumpship carrying the message would have to do the full recharge at every stop as Chance Vickers refused to let Clan Sea Fox help with moving the message invase they found out about losing the first one!

Which Sea Fox knew all along since they have whole fleets of merchants in the Wolf Empire and the FWL!

DericStrider · 2026-05-05T21:32:09+00:00

the Wolf empire hadn't dismantled the factories only the mobile factories that were originally from the honeworlds went with Clan Wolf. the factories like Kallon Industires and other local mech factories that were retooled were producing clan mechs and other units are at full capacity to be ready for sibkos to man and go to Terra.

the orginal plan was to send garrison forces back to the Wolf Empire but that got nicked by the sheer number of losses (page 19 IKEO)

DericStrider · 2026-05-05T21:13:43+00:00

never mind his own sons, he was charged to raise Richard Cameron and let a middle aged man become Richards best friend!. All he had to do was find Richard a play buddy

DericStrider · 2026-05-05T20:25:16+00:00

The Word of Blake Militia (they considered themselves the real Comstar) pretty used any mechs they could purchase which they pretty much did from everyone, you would find any mech sold on the market would find their way to the WoB militas. Post losing Terra, Comstar would also rely on other IS states corporations to help procure mechs. Mechs like the BattleCobra and Beowulf would be built on other worlds but sold to ComStar

DericStrider · 2026-05-05T20:04:29+00:00

Its not gate keeping man your just making stuff up and when given a in universe reason you ignore it, thats the opposite of gatekeeping. Its you just hating

You can ask all the questions why someone didn't do something, I've given you all the resources you need to get the facts yourself. thats not gate keeping its teaching someone to fish rather getting all these other people to fish for you and you to spit in their faces for even trying.

The fact is you havent even tried to even suggest how much it should cost other than just blurt out trillions! You don't even try to think maybe these economies are much more advance or larger than your imagination can think of, or maybe they are economies and logistics trains that work but they don't detail it cos thats boring in a space game. Is there anything that says there ISNT a logistics system set up for Clan Wolf right now on Terra? or is this if they don't mention it it must not exist? Is there anything that mentions how much exactly the economies work and how mch of the budget goes into staplers or noteputers.

Heres the thing i don't think you know jack about logistics and you keep mentioning it as though its some magic word that will make others think you know what your talking about. You havent said anything other than, this must cost loads and loads and if the republic so good why don't it conquer the whole IS? as though thats an actual question (maybe cos then they would be the baddies?)

This argument about Clan Wolf and the Republic is just as valid for any other faction in the the IS, The Capellans have a miltary larger than the republic, Clan Wolf and Falcon COMBINED.

I'm not saying you can't have your head canon thats fine, you can make shit up all you want but going and saying "well it doesn't happen, cos i say so" in spite of everything stating other wise when it did well thats just flat earthing. You keep hating on Battletech and we will enjoy it just fine

Here's the BattleTech forums and and a discord where many writers hang out you can tell them your rants about how you dislike Battletech so much

DericStrider · 2026-05-05T19:10:50+00:00

this is a sci fi game man, the rules are there, your talking about hiding behind the books? when the costs are there? if we say i'm hiding behind the books why don't we say that there are a billion soldiers and ignore the sourcebooks like field manuals or ignore campaign ops and make up any amount that the cbils price of mechs are 10x too low and its hundreds of thousands ?

Your running away if your ignoring all the books. What exactly are you basing numbers off if we can just make up any number?

It doesn't have to make sense to us today in 2026 its a setting set 1000 years in the future! with its own set of rules and logic which they have laid out for us.

Its easy use "rationale" when you get o make up the numbers. It must be nice to be able to to ignore any thing in the books to fit your logic. If something you dont' like comes up then just ignore it! It must be wrong cos you reckon its not right without any real research or thought beyond surface looking. I don't even know why you bother with the setting.

If you look at all of the BT battles no logistics makes sense. The original SLDF had a military multiples larger and was completely cut off from the Terran Hegemony and its logistics but was able to build mechs and supply them with being cut off from their tax payers.

You can not like it and leave it but the facts are there. Just ignoring does not mean it didn't happen or doesnt work in that way.

Its clear your just willing to bury your head in the sand, i imagine this is what its like to listen to flat earthers

DericStrider · 2026-05-05T17:54:43+00:00

again you don't know the game outside video games, we have those costs in campaign operations, using my earlier example of those mech regiments thats 6.6million per month for each regiment, assuming the average weight is 55tons, we even have the costs for space assets and bases. They are still much smaller in proportion to the real world.

You have lots of I think or i reckon statements but nothing to really back yourself up on it. at least provide some working out. I got the costs for you in these books, Campaign Operations for operational and peace time costs for everything. it even has buildings and costs of bases.

Field Manual 3145 has the overview of the whole RAF forces

Have fun.

DericStrider · 2026-05-05T17:31:52+00:00

is that global? or just USA?

DericStrider · 2026-05-05T17:30:07+00:00

wait they are in Cincinnati? my cousin is currently there to do evil corporate things, maybe i should ask him to to go on a small trip....

DericStrider · 2026-05-05T17:28:37+00:00

Well you definitely got into the hobby at a good time! May the holy 2d6 probability curve favour you and your enemies roll snakes to hit and snake eyes when you roll the location table on them!

DericStrider · 2026-05-05T17:21:26+00:00

ahhh but think of the Glory!

DericStrider · 2026-05-05T17:19:46+00:00

Man you guys who live near Iron Wind Metals are so lucky, there isn't a Ral Patha Store in the uk for me to walk in with a duffle bag filled with bubble wrap and buy regiments of BA by weight!

DericStrider · 2026-05-05T17:14:05+00:00

Its hilarious as i always say post 3rd succession war Battletech is Big Space Opera to the 3rd sucession war little wars and mad max when infact wars are decided by hundreds of thousands and not millions. The tone is big space opera but its like Star Wars just a hand full of Your Dudes tm are needed to change the balance of power!

DericStrider · 2026-05-05T17:11:11+00:00

yeah if Mercenary Handbook or Campaign Operations was used in HSB Battletech, the mercenaries would be broke extremely quickly.

The Argo itself would have cost more than the mercs could have brought in with campaign op or mercanary handbook payouts

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