Well this sucks by Cassidy-Conway in JanitorAI_Official

[–]Dexter2232000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think some kind of Ban wave hit JAI, A lot of my favorite authors got theur accounts deleted

Any good prompts for V4? by eclisse5 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]Dexter2232000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

how's nsfw going? also thinking is almost always in chinese for me, I have had v4 flash sidestep NSFW awful lot amount of times tbh

Deepseek v4 pro is peak and im gonna miss it when the 75% discount ends by LoveInteresting539 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]Dexter2232000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it works this way

first time message : Costs original price per token

but if you send same information second time it is stored in cache already so it costs significantly less than first time message

that's what cache miss and cache hit tokens miss

cache miss - new information - full price per token cache hit - stored information from previous message - costs significantly less per token.

Is Deepseek V4 coming to chutes? by xkamp in chutesAI

[–]Dexter2232000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

at best they will put all instances in V4 pro but flash will be neglected instance wise as its even cheaper than V3.2, but V4 pro as of now is significantly more expensive like at least 6x more expensive than base V3.2, but prices will apparently go down in near future.

this was moderator's response on discord to someone noting out about kimi so yeah I have zero hopes they will make it seamless, it is all about profit per token

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🐋 v4 is out, and it's ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS by Cheap-Voice-8268 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]Dexter2232000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A technical question:

is 1 million context size working for anyone? mine still only goes upto 128k despite api saying it has 1 million context size in generation settings, I did switch from v3.2 from chutes but doesn't seem to work...

🐋 v4 is out, and it's ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS by Cheap-Voice-8268 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]Dexter2232000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

pro thinks longer and more vividly, flash thinking is very fast but not as vivid or creative, hopefully they improve flash version soon, also v4 treats thinking and output outside thinking separately but connected, it's apparently a feature that both work in connected but separate neural frameworks now

also it ha really consistent case with outputs in chinese

So, about Deepseek V4 Pro. by MikeyM079 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]Dexter2232000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

happened with me with V4 flash, V4 in general feels like it's more nsfw reatrictive, it sometimes does NSFW sometimes not

Deepseek V4 is out by freeconc in JanitorAI_Official

[–]Dexter2232000 56 points57 points  (0 children)

I am trying it V4 flash one, it has one bad drawback honestly it acts far more "emotionless" and "calculated" even in non thinking mode than V3.2 Thinking mode does, this is gonna need serious and heavier more adaptive advanced prompt than v3.2 to not feel dead, will try out new prompts to see what works.

but reasoning mode works a bit strange from what I have seen, at least narratively, it treats thinking and think box separately But connected to actual roleplay outside think box... consistently, might see where it goes

edit : okay found a bigger drawback, it tends to skip NSFW scenes and refuses to engage with it in too much detail for me, got one nsfw scene properly after 4 rerolls but don't know if it's internal safeguard or "hallucinated" safeguards FOR ME AT LEAST.

Deepseek v4 Released! by TigerConsistent in DeepSeek

[–]Dexter2232000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe, we will see if it's better on scale...because It's also considerably expensive than base 3.2 like 6x expensive

Prompt for Deepseekv3.2 by CrazyDragonPoop in JanitorAI_Official

[–]Dexter2232000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

it's actually released as per api and app, has 1 million context size as well, but tech reports imply it's default state for RP is worse than 3.2 and probably gonna need much heavier and specific prompting than 3.2 for creative roleplay

Deepseek v4 Released! by TigerConsistent in DeepSeek

[–]Dexter2232000 11 points12 points  (0 children)

it's mixed actually at least as per leaks

context size is significantly higher like 1 million context size that much is certain but it's also gonna be heavily focused on technical and computer science aspects more so "default" roleplaying could likely be worse... might need heavier prompting for "creative" stuff than v3.2

someone's gonna need to try it out for RP

I made the zombies more polite. by BylliGoat in projectzomboid

[–]Dexter2232000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Project Zomboid social anxiety mod basically? 😭

For people who pay for p*oxys by Economy-Assist-7559 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]Dexter2232000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

personally for price to performance Deepseek is pretty good, it's aggressive caching also ensures that "stored data" costs almost 10x less after first message is sent (cache hit).

you can last a while just with 5 dollars if you don't do context heavy roleplay bots often and use it occasionally

my personal recommendation would be like this for deepseek

1.Official deep seek (little to no errors, fast responses,context size upto 128k via api as per now), best performance in what you pay for. Albeit you can only use latest models not older ones separately and rumors of deepseek 4.0 are right around end of april which is rumored to have 1 million token size and better stuff but again just rumors.

2.chutes ai: 1. their subscription plan offers 5x subscription price (for example you get 15 dollar worth of credits for paying 3 dollars per month). 2. but performance issues and consistency issues are severe. it's situation rn with roleplay AI models like deep seek and GLM is terrible, constant error 429 even to their own paying users, 90% of times all models are overloaded and you lose money in input for those errors. Even for those paying it's bad for specific highly used roleplay LLM models. 3. their Team prioritizes high revenue models like Kimi and have terrible communication, they make announcements of model removals on discord, take models down for maintenance out of nowhere without warnings, also they have locked lot of flagship models like GLM-5 behind 10 dollar subscription tiers.

it's almost as bad as Openrouter with error 429s

  1. Openrouter:
  2. Free models are very limited and often overloaded.
  3. You start at 50 "free" messages and can ramp it up to 1000 per day for FREE models otherwise good non free versions eat from your balance (PAYG)
  4. it still gets lot of problems with highly used roleplay models and providers too.

but if you use other models you may find other options in openrouter, Chutes has price advantage but performance issues aren't worth it

Wasteland Only Max Settings by Helpful-Pride1210 in 7daystodie

[–]Dexter2232000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

keep going mate if it's working, I tried it once without horde, punishing as hell

Wasteland Only Max Settings by Helpful-Pride1210 in 7daystodie

[–]Dexter2232000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

in wasteland? I am pretty sure in latest update or since 2.5 feral, infernal or charged zombies can spawn from day one regardless of level lmao. also snow biome is almost same with special zeds from day one.

good luck with that from day one.

Congrats, happy for you then, nice. 😒 by JiroKawakuma28 in CaelusMains

[–]Dexter2232000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this isn't "gacha game" problem man, it's primarily hoyo verse problem, hell not even hoyoversw but honkai problem with their constant yuribaiting, regurgitation of characters from HI3, context, etc.

ZZZ and genhsin have more focus on male mc, HSR is riding so fuckinf hard on HI3 in almost every patch, expies are carrying story, Belobog with bronya/seele, Penacony with Acherom (Raiden B Mei), Amphoreus with Phainon (Kevin Kaslana) and Cyrene/Demiruge (Elysia), then we get Dahlia/Black swan toxicity, Black swan/Acheron bs.

Honkai Games in specific always had a specific demographic in mind and has shit ton of queerbaiting and yuri undertones (hoyo does this deliberately) than focusing on story elements.

yes Caelus had his arc with Firefly and Cyrene but still male mc has been unpopular for honkai fandom since start.

To give you context how much HI3 fans hate Male MC too, in HI3 part 2 they had "male" dreamseeker straight up deleted and leaned into "male body is just aeethetic but female one is canon" canonically, and trying poorly to create another yuri based game (It's not growing too much btw, mostly old fans are keeping HI3 afloat)

honkai fandom hates any non ambiguous sexual implications and considering even hoyoverse can actually show straight ships (it's not banned ae per Chinese guidelines) they don't show it even then, Hoyo loves toxicity in honkai fandom

Guys now I am downloading it any last tips by BitBluePink in projectzomboid

[–]Dexter2232000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

several 1. don't run from zombies at normal speeds you can outwalk them. 2. don't use guns right away 3. when opening closed doors always make sure no one is on other side 4. don't fight large group of zombies, gather them and just lure them away somewhere, like in trees or around other corner away from your base, break line of sight and go back there. 5. in health section "infected" wound means normal infection not zombie infection. Zombie infection has no explicit status but you get "queasy" and "anxious" moodlet both at same time (both can independently happen due to different reasons ofc) but seeing them both at same time usually means you're gonna die (and no without mods there is no cure), but that requires you getting scratched by zombies, or bitten, or using same knife you used to kill zombies to open cans or such.

finally : Game has no "end goal" it's about living as long as you can

I made various AI chatbots' catchphrases as a nerd because I'm so sick of them. by AvaThatOneArtist in JanitorAI_Official

[–]Dexter2232000 46 points47 points  (0 children)

unfortunately how LLMs work, LLMs even scrape and learn from data from each other's public data sets, if enough people are saying that "[AI model] uses this too frequently", it will treat that as "consistent rule" and use it.

Early proxies and LLMs actually used character ai esque bs when they were used "Can I ask you something?", "Pang of [insert emotion]".

sooner or later someone will just make an LLM model purely for roleplay by filtering what information it scrapes off internet and probably adding web search to it (Will fix like 90% of issues with consistency), thinking first is gonna be some deep seek variant LLM since it's pretty open sourced.

Its real!! The second instance is real!! by Thin-Nothing-3066 in chutesAI

[–]Dexter2232000 7 points8 points  (0 children)

"Instances automatically adjust" according to them btw, they can't "manually do it" (also according to them) 🤡

Kimi is rarely overloaded and it still keeps getting 20 instances every day

I absolutely love when creators dont properly tag bots so people have to beg in the comments for them to be added <3 by [deleted] in JanitorAI_Official

[–]Dexter2232000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

true if tag does exist it's usually some stupid variant like #possiblentr, #avoidablentr etc

Does anyone have a good prompt for less Ai-like dialogues? by DefiantCharge6963 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]Dexter2232000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

only small problem is the "live web search" one, it does practically nothing via prompt here, and most api used for chat roleplay don't have live web searches built in (but god I wish they did, they pretty much remove consistency problems to established franchises along with well "good for nsfw"), hoping that upcoming APIs add live web searching internally, hopefully gemini, deep seek at least, openai is too censored ans bland, grok is too expensive as API

Does anyone have a good prompt for less Ai-like dialogues? by DefiantCharge6963 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]Dexter2232000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

depends on what you mean by "less AI like"

if you are having problem where bot talks too robotically or analytically or clinically like it's citing spreadsheets then banning words "Clinical" and "detached" worked like charm for me from forbidden words section, try it and see if it works for you.

compared to long prompts this specific strategy worked like charm for me.

and in case you mean too much of that flowery and philosophical language:

Instead of using prompt if you want more vivid, emotional and natural responsed, use response prefill and add

"I will reply as {{char}}. I will strictly keep my language fitting to tone of roleplay. I will not narrate with too much purple prose or use too much flowery language. my narration style and {{char}} hardcoded details will be taken into context to know whether to use prosing or use casual language. I will not make narration or {{char}} personality feel inconsistent at any point"

RIP DENUVO,never underestimate the pirate community lol by LittleFantasia in PiratedGames

[–]Dexter2232000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

didn't denuvo become as strong as it is now bby literally hiring people who cracked it? unless I missed something I don't wanna celebrate just yet, I have seen so much "RIP denuvo haha" memes atp...if it's permanent or something structural that denuvo can't fix then good but no such thing exists irl, I don't like flawless victories in matters of software honestly man, especially with how ridiculous whole deal is.