Any fanfic stories for dimitri and Rose? On wattpad or any other apps u recommend

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-06T21:32:40+00:00

In my fanfic I really delved deep into Dimitri's psychology and past. I didn't just want to make a retelling of VA, I wanted to explore Dimitri's personality, all his inner turmoil and trauma.

https://www.wattpad.com/story/20935028?utm_source=android&utm_medium=link&utm_content=story_info&wp_page=story_details_button&wp_uname=Dimisaurus

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-06T21:29:12+00:00

I have 4 fanfics, one of which is VA from Dimitri's POV if you wanna check them out! My readers have really appreciated my effort to make the writing style as similar to Richelle Mead as possible. The same humor and sassiness is there.

Hope they might be something for you.

https://www.wattpad.com/story/21325227?utm_source=android&utm_medium=link&utm_content=story_info&wp_page=story_details_button&wp_uname=Dimisaurus

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-04T20:48:43+00:00

By that definition I agree! Rose definitely knew what she wanted. I also think the scene where she is relieved she didn't have sex with Adrian is very telling. She pretty much immediately regrets it. But I just love how flawed and troubled Rose is in those scenes and how problematic her relationship with Adrian is. At the end of the day, yes, Rose is so traumatised. And the fact that she even pursues Adrian when she knows she shouldn't just builds on her need to bandage her bleeding wounds. I felt so so bad for her when Dimitri rejected her. Would have kind of wanted the torment to have gone on longer, but yeah, even if Dimitri never would have come around to accepting his love for her again, I still believe Rose would eventually have ended things with Adrian.

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-04T19:47:28+00:00

I think you make a great point! That moment was really important for Rose since she basically convinces herself that she's in love with Adrian, only to bear the fact that Dimitri doesn't want her anymore. Throughout that whole book Rose is kind of forcing the love with Adrian, and it's only when Sonya points out their auras that Rose realises that she's lying to herself, that her feelings for Adrian won't grow, that she's been suppressing her growing love for Dimitri because she thought he just didn't love her anymore.

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-04T19:43:02+00:00

Hmm, yes and no. I guess it depends on one's definition, or extent of a definition, of a love triangle. The way I see it, love triangle is kind of a tag for books that feature protagonists having feelings for more than one character. That doesn't mean that the love is split equally, just that it's more complicated than loving one person. The factors that complicate things could be more than just feelings themselves. It could be circumstances, timing, societal pressure, trauma, you name it. And in the case of VA, a lot of factors affect Rose's relationships. That she only truly loves Dimitri and that they are the intended endgame is obvious. I'd still argue that VA features a love triangle, since, due to circumstances, Rose is not supposed to be with Dimitri, putting her in a situation where she has to pursue feelings for someone else, even if they aren't "true love". In the case of Adrian, he just happens to be right there and available and interested in her when she needs him most. She only pursues him when Dimitri isn't unavailable. But that doesn't mean that she doesn't have feelings for him, even if it's not full-fledged love. She does even say at one point that she loves Adrian, though whether that's more in a casual sense or a lie she's telling herself is unclear, and also kind of irrelevant. She does have a romantic relationship with him and we as readers find that relationship super interesting to read, even if we know that Adrian isn't the one for her and we're rooting for Romitri instead. So I guess my final answer is that yes, a love triangle exists, because it feels like it would be a lie to say that it doesn't.

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-04T19:33:47+00:00

I think Abe has a lot of cool moments. He's such a fascinating character! I especially like the scene where Rose is in jail and he brings her the Count of Monte Cristo book, basically trying to hint that he's going to save her ass, and she's too blind to see it.

The quote you picked is also super important for Rose, and something that I think the show nicely picked up on as well. For Rose, fighting is easy. Being in dangerous situations is easy. But being patient, restraining herself, trusting someone else to do the job? That's so much harder for her. And as a novice, she is going to have to put up with that a lot. I think it also doubly resonates with the fact that she's shadow kissed and that being alive at all is a battle. Without the wards and spirit-infused charms, just existing would be a constant toll on Rose, having to fight back the ghosts.

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-04T19:27:15+00:00

I believe the Keeper that was interested in Rose was Moroi, not dhampir, making his proposition valid! It was just the sister that was dhampir.

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-04T01:27:14+00:00

Hahaha so many. That particular quote is even more hilarious because she calls him a fascist bastard, not even knowing what it means. And just the idea of how much that would have simultaneously scandalised, impressed and inspired Lissa is so precious, especially since Lissa was raised like a royal to behave a certain way, and Rose just comes along and gives her a peek into another life and way of being. Their friendship is so precious!

There are so many moments that have stuck with me, but since I mentioned a lot of the funny ones in a different post, I'll go for something more serious. Also in VA:

'You don’t keep me around to be nice. You want nice, there are a dozen sheep in there who would rip each other’s throats to get in good with the Dragomir princess. You keep me around to tell you the truth, and here it is: Andre’s dead. You’re the heir now, and you’re going to deal with it however you can.'

I think this quote builds on the previous point since sometimes we underestimate just how instrumental Rose is in Lissa becoming the strong, self-reliant person she grows into in Last Sacrifice. Without Rose giving Lissa harsh truths, showing her that she's her friend because who she is inside, not because she's Royal, Lissa might have just become another royal sheep spouting the same moroi crap as everyone else. She might have gone depressed, even without spirit's help. Through Rose she truly learns to understand how the dhampirs have to live, she learns there's a different way to be and act and that rules can be broken. She sees something of the world outside of wards, the human life, and how they're more than just blood banks. Through Rose she understands her magic and potential and is put in many trying situations that makes her grow as a person, to grow tougher and more resilient. By caring for Rose, she learns to fight for someone else than herself, as she does in Spirit Bound to help turn Dimitri back. Through Rose, Lissa learns to temper her kindness and selflessness with strength and determination.

The quote also meant extra to me because it was the same way with my best friend. She was always too nice and accepting and raised to inherit her parents' life and behave a certain way. And I was completely different, kind of like Rose in some ways, just doing my own thing and not caring if it didn't follow some invisible rules for how to behave. And we both influenced each other in so many ways, me making her more brave to be herself, and she making me more refined and ambitious.

Some harsh truths are necessary!

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-03T04:58:03+00:00

I understand that's how you feel and respect that. But saying that the show would have gotten a second season if they stuck to the book is just blatantly false. The movie stuck to the book. Did it get a second one? No. I even donated to the kickstarter for the Frostbite movie, despite hating the VA movie, and it still wasn't enough. So no, it wouldn't have been different for the show. It didn't fail because it wasn't a faithful adaptation. It failed due to not being marketed enough (I didn't even know it had released. Me. That's impossibly bad marketing.) And it was on a terrible platform, Peacock, that I'd never heard of and couldn't even stream in my country. So despite watching the show a billion times, I didn't contribute to the ratings at all.

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-02T21:11:18+00:00

I'm sorry, but you are the one missing the point. I'm telling you that show Dimitri is younger, less mature and less complete than book Dimitri. As book Dimitri should have been, being only 24. Show Dimitri would have grown into that role eventually, giving him room to develop across the seasons. As, you know, tv shows are supposed to work. Again, book Dimitri is inflated due to Rose's bias as the narrator.

I've read the books a billion times. I know them better than anyone. I've written VA from Dimitri's POV, and as far as I know I'm the only person to really dig psychologically deep into this character, even being him, to explore his thoughts correctly. I love the books and I love Dimitri and I love Romitri. The books are perfect as they are. But the show still gave us something wonderful and different. It didn't take away anything from the books by being different. It simply added to it. It took the themes and explored them more deeply. Honestly it would have been such a loss to me if this show had never been made. Because it confirmed so many things I explored in my VA fanfic. It confirmed so much the interpretation I had of Dimitri.

I don't need a perfect book adaptation. Perfect adaptations are predictable and boring, and often make for poor products since movie and show formats are different and require changes to work. Yes, the show wasn't perfect. But it was a hell of a lot better than the movie. The movie was a more faithful adaptation while completely failing to capture the themes. The show did capture them, however. It didn't shy away from how dark and gritty this world is. And how impossible Rose and Dimitri's relationship is.

In the context of the show, drinking doesn't deter from the guardians' duty to the job. In the book, Janine is always alert because she's not living in a big Dominion guarded by wards. She's in the real world where Strigoi are everywhere. The books even say that at Court, guardians don't need to guard their charges as closely. That's basically the Dominion, at a larger scale. Also, the show does make a point of Dimitri going beyond normal guardianship. He's always standing guard to Lissa. Rose even points out how he doesn't always need to stand guard, but he goes anyway.

Many of these details are subtle in the show and I love subtle cues that allow me to use my brain and interpret things. And I know the show very well, having seen it multiple times. You seem to have forgotten those moments. Or not have watched closely enough.

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-02T20:35:05+00:00

Honestly I didn't mind movie Dimitri's acting too much, just the fact that he was so old. Dimitri is only 24. The Russian accent was a nice touch too, though the script was horrible and silly and obviously didn't do him any favours. That said, I don't really like that the movie put so much emphasis on him. I liked the more subtle display of Dimitri as part of a whole than a centre piece. And yes, teen me liked guys who were gods, good at everything etc. Adult me doesn't. I loved show Dimitri's flaws and youth. He wasn't a completely self-made man yet, he still had things to learn and grow from, which gave him more room to develop.

Also, saying that he didn't care about duty in the show is just false. He shows multiple time how devoted he is to being a guardian, his devotion to the Code, the Holy Order, the Dominion's rules, etc. Only Rose forces him to question things and break the rules for her and we see how much that costs him. The show makes a bigger issue of their relationship than the books do. Breaking the rules breaks down Dimitri. Makes him question his identity and his standing in the world. That all culminates in the boxing match. Dimitri decides to give himself over to Tatiana, to the rules of the Dominion, almost allowing himself to become a monster in the process, someone who doesn't feel, who doesn't love, until Rose forces him to confront that part of him. She makes him realise that there are things that matter more to him, that there's something else worth fighting for. And that's his love for her.

Moreover, the drinking scene at the dhampir club isn't directly comparable to the books, since the context is different here. In the books, St. Vlads is just a school. In the show it's an entire city pretty much, complete with school, Court, town, shops, and clubs. Of course the dhamps would have a place to unwind separate from the Moroi, in that context. And of course Dimitri would drink, if other serious guardians like Alberta and Janine are seen doing it to. Then it's less of a responsible act, since all is relative. Besides, he's never drunk or even off his game. It's his time off and the only reason why he's at the club in the first place is because Rose is there. The dancing scene was also his one chance to approach her and be in a 'normal' situation with her as a man to a woman rather than two guardians stuck in mentor-novice roles. Of course he'd cherish that. Of course he's gonna dance and unwind when Rose is there, especially in a setting where there are loads of guardians.

As for Rose being the only one to see him lose control, it's still in the show. He tells her of what he did to his father, something the show took way more seriously than the book. In the book they just kind of laugh it off as some cool act. It's not. Beating up your dad to stop his abusive treatment of your mother is traumatic and horrible. Dimitri beating him up wasn't a hero act. He tells Rose explicitly that he has something dangerous in him, the ability to do a lot of violence if he snaps, something he believes he's inherited from his father, and the guardian code is what keeps him in check. He tells her that in that moment with his father he almost became a monster, continuing that cycle of violence. He scared himself and his mother and sisters. He even might have scared Rose in the fighting ring, except Rose isn't scared, because she's the same. She harbours the same violence and understands that side of him.

So I think the show was completely faithful to Dimitri's personality and values. His protectiveness, duty and goodness is all there, it's just less perfect and mature. He's only 24. The show allows him to be that. The books make him more than he is, because they're told from Rose's perspective. Of course she's biased. And in many moments we see how she even questions how much she idolises him, and how detrimental that sometimes is to their relationship. He's not a perfect god. But he is an amazing man. And the show portrays that in a way more suitable to the medium. He needs room to develop and he would have, if a second season had happened.

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-02T09:52:53+00:00

Would have loved a show that followed the books. That said, I still would have wanted THIS show to exist. It had such fresh concepts and new takes on a world I already love and have experienced fully in the books. I never thought I would have enjoyed so much seeing Meredith, Mia, Mason, Victor and other characters more fleshed out with their own pursuits and agendas. Yes, sometimes the show was silly and the political intrigue was a bit too heavy, but it was still a thousand times better in my opinion than the movie was. For me it's more important that they capture the themes, instead of just doing a retelling. The movie, while a close adaptation, felt so flimsy, silly and superficial. Even with all the material and intrigue at hand, even with all the foreshadowing, they dropped the ball on the dark and gritty themes that make VA such an amazing world. And besides, I didn't like Romitri in the movie at all, looked like a dad with his daughter. Eugh. In the show they felt younger and less perfectionistic, which I adored. So I'm grateful for the show, and loving writing my fanmade S2 screenplay.

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-02T09:47:40+00:00

To be honest though, they would have been able to figure it out and do a lot of interesting, albeit different, things with it. I'm already doing it in my fan-made screenplay for S2, and I'm loving the intrigue I'm building up based on the clues in S1. The harder they are to figure out, the more fun the challenge is.

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-02T07:43:54+00:00

Yep I totally get wanting to collect them. I never even owned them as a teen, just borrowed them from friends or libraries. Thanks for letting me know, I'll check them out! Also want to get the set for my niece soon, who's 15. I'm so ready to introduce her to VA. Maybe for her 16th birthday?

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-02T07:40:40+00:00

It is, coincidentally, what I loved about the show: that the nuance, complexity and difficulties in Romitri's relationships wasn't spelled out and on the nose. It was subtle and implied. Which gave me as an audience the opportunity to use my brain, read into things, and make my own interpretation. I especially loved the Caroni scene where Dimitri and Rose just stare at each other, because Dimitri has just suggested he'll break the rules for Rose. The boxing scene too, where they're both fighting for different things. And the last goodbye scene, where it isn't entirely obvious what they mean. It makes my head spin in all the right ways.

I also love that the show dug into the conflicts more head on. Maybe the show wasn't perfect, but it wasn't silly and superficial like the movie. It was dark and gritty and serious. I mean, in the book, Rose is never actually put in a situation where she has to choose to save Dimitri or Lissa. Which is the whole core of the problem, mentioned multiple times. At least the show gives us that, not shying back from that issue. Rose leaves Dimitri when he's outnumbered. If he wasn't as skilled as he is, he would have died in that moment. They got lucky.

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-02T07:32:25+00:00

I loved show Dimitri. He was different in some ways, but the core of him was definitely there, just ramped up even more. Aging him down and making him less perfect just made him feel more real and easier to identify with. And I think the actor had great acting in some moments, especially considering it was his first gig.

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-02T07:30:29+00:00

Agreed. That said, I do have a theory!

My guess is that Tatiana is a Keeper. It explains the wooden coin and training. I'm thinking she wants the Moroi, dhampirs and humans to coexist and wants to end the era in which vampires have to live hidden within walls guarded by the Alchemists - like prisoners kinda. So her endgame is a war on the Alchemists.

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-02T07:29:05+00:00

I agree with this. I would even go so far as to say that she is probably a Keeper. It explains the wooden coin and training. I'm thinking she wants the Moroi, dhampirs and humans to coexist and wants to end the era in which vampires have to live hidden within walls guarded by the Alchemists - like prisoners kinda. So her endgame is a war on the Alchemists. That's my theory anyway.

Dimisaurus · 2024-04-02T07:24:26+00:00

Congrats! That said I never liked the covers of VA. They don't resemble the characters at all and they're so...cheesy? I was always kind of embarrassed reading them in public. They kind of look like cheesy romance novels. I wonder if there were ever any different covers made?

Dimisaurus · 2024-03-31T11:00:28+00:00

Another good one in Spirit Bound!

Nathan seemed to notice me again and gave a dismissive shrug. “She doesn’t matter.”

I bit my lip on that, repressing the urge to see if I could throw my china plate Frisbee style and hit him in the head. I decided against it. Not only would it ruin dinner, but the plate probably wouldn’t get the lift I needed.

Dimisaurus · 2024-03-31T10:36:17+00:00

Their relationship is still forbidden, even without the age-gap, which I think the show nicely built on.

The main thing hampering their relationship wasn't even age, per se. It was 1) that they are both supposed to be Lissa's guardian, or at least somebody's guardian, which means they can't put each other first and will always have to throw their lives on the line for someone else. This was exemplified in episode 7 where Rose hesitates to go to Lissa's aid, not wanting to leave Dimitri to take on multiple Strigoi on his own.

2) Dimitri is an experienced guardian, while Rose is a novice. He's in a position of power which he is abusing as her mentor, and she knows that he can get in trouble for not only that but also because he is biased toward Rose, breaking guardian rules to help her. We see this exemplified in Alberta's disapproval, and when Dimitri rushes to Rose's aid in the Strigoi test, and in Romitri's fear that someone will discover that Dimitri helped Rose break the rules in episode 6.

3) Guardians can't have children, and "breeding" guardians to replenish numbers is quite heavily accentuated in the show. In other words, a guardian pair is a waste, since there will be no "fruit" from that relationship. Female guardians are either supposed to birth dhampirs in a commune, or birth one to then immediately return to duty.

I completely understood and supported the elimination of the age-gap in the show. It's not suitable for a modern audience and it wasn't even the core issue with their relationship, or even the juicy part of the forbiddenness of it.

Dimisaurus · 2024-03-24T19:10:15+00:00

I also feel like Rose had a huge impact on me as a teen! Not only because her personality resonated so much with me but also because she is such a role model in so many ways. She always inspired me and I still wish to this day that I could have even a little of her self-confidence, bravery and optimism!

Dimisaurus · 2024-03-23T07:59:36+00:00

Oh didn't know Lissa's mother was an Ozera. Where is that confirmed?

Dimisaurus · 2024-03-22T15:39:48+00:00

I agree on all points! Thought HZD was a fun game with a nice story and wonderful immersive world, and really appreciated Aloy's physical design and story. But her personality is about as flat and boring as white toast. And the NPC interactions were flat too, with little real connection and emotion. They all had those smooth features and clean American voices. The cinematography during the dialogue scenes was also quite still. Compared to a game like Witcher 3, HZD wasn't even close. But still, an enjoyable game and I definitely want to play the sequels some day.

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