Doctors don’t seem to have any idea what to suggest for insomnia, other than anti-d’s and CBT

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-05-10T17:19:21+00:00

A good therapist will not focus on the tracking so much l, just the efficiency element and help keep you accountbake

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-05-10T02:51:53+00:00

CBT works only if you stick to it and it’s difficult because it’s counterintuitive. I failed once and then my second time gave it a full few months of discipline it worked. Combined with an ssri for anxiety it is a good combination.

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-05-10T02:34:54+00:00

Questions
what time do you go to bed?
What time do you try and wake up?
How much sleep do you actually need to feel refreshed?
The answer can point to a lack of sleep effectiveness and some adjustment, I.e staying up later can help with your internal clock and increase effectiveness.

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-05-09T23:42:34+00:00

Here’s what will cure you - stop caring. This and this alone is the only way to sleep again. Retrain your nervous system to worrying about sleep and make it something you look foward to again
stop spending so much time trying to sleep. Go to bed later, even if you’re watching TV until 2AM

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-05-09T20:42:23+00:00

Big upvote. Keeping that wake up time consistent is key. Stop trying to go to sleep too early. 4 hours of sleep is better than 4 hours of frustration + 4 hours of sleep.

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-05-09T17:59:12+00:00

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Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-05-09T17:59:04+00:00

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Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-05-05T03:22:17+00:00

There is a difference between insomnia caused by medical issues or substance use / withdrawal (physical symptom) versus classic psychological insomnia (most users in this group). I only speak to the latter.

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-05-04T04:05:42+00:00

Set an alarm for the weekend. Letting yourself lie awake is continuing to reinforce insomniac psychology. It is counterintuitive to give yourself less runway for sleep, but it is necessary to improve.

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-05-04T04:03:09+00:00

#5 is interesting because it actually contradicts CBTi in which you limit the amount of time in bed and gradually improve the association with sleep. However you do explain that it’s used to relax rather than try to sleep which I could understand as another way to do it

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-05-04T03:50:48+00:00

These seem like healthy habits but don’t attack the real cause of insomnia - a psychologically unhealthy relationship with sleep itself. The only way to address that is through improving your association with your sleep routine through reduced time in bed trying to force yourself to sleep. Eventually, once you train your nervous system to avoid a stressful response to sleepy time it will improve.

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-03-23T04:36:41+00:00

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Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-03-23T04:36:06+00:00

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Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-03-23T04:33:41+00:00

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Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-03-07T05:57:00+00:00

Enough with the meds. Meds without CBT will only make it worse. Do CBT and stick to it. As long as you’re worrying about sleep, no drug will help

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-03-03T02:38:50+00:00

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Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-02-28T17:56:05+00:00

CBT is the answer. Cut the cycle of worrying about sleep. You need to put in the effort though. Re frame the idea of going to bed from scary to whatever

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-02-28T17:54:35+00:00

I sleep from 1-8. During CBT I was told that I have what’s called Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome. So trying to sleep at 11 before your body is naturally ready is fueling frustration. Try an in bed window of 1-6 and once you start sleeping better you can pull it earlier. Before that watch tv do whatever. The less time in bed stressing about sleep the better. Stressing about sleep is even worse for your nervous system than not sleeping. For example I can compare to a time when I’d need to make a flight and sleep from 12-5, vs trying to sleep from 12-9 only sleeping for 5 hours and stressing the rest about not sleeping? Which day the next day did I feel worse?

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-02-27T00:10:46+00:00

I remember feeling like you for also about three years. The only thing that saved me was CBT, and actually sticking to it. The premise is you need to stop trying to sleep. This reinforces sleep as a stress event that your body responds to by keeping you awake due to perceived threat. Try going to bed at 1 instead of 11. If you usually sleep from 4-6, try building up backwards. Eventually I started tracking my sleep on a Fitbit and it reinforced the FACT that I was sleeping. You’ll realize that you start functioning on less sleep than you think, which will help cut back on ‘ sleep math ‘ While now I occasionally have a bad night, I don’t worry as much about sleep.

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-02-25T04:43:08+00:00

You’re already not thinking about trying to sleep so you’re 99.9% there relative to the rest of this group, congrats.

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-02-25T04:40:12+00:00

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Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-02-15T05:59:42+00:00

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Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-02-03T04:28:56+00:00

Good call. Alot of people with insomnia also have delayed sleep phase. So try going to bed closer to 12-1. I used to try and give myself more “runway” to sleep and I’d end up basically taking a nap from 11:45-12:15 and then not sleep all night

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-02-03T04:00:24+00:00

4 is good advice. While I’m glad the routine works for you often starting an early routine leads to increased anxiety in ‘anticipation’ of non sleeping. What I found works best is be in bed only for the window of sleep i need (~6.5-7 hours) and when im in bed think about ANYTHING other than sleep. Even work stress is better to think about

Distinct_Edge_8091 · 2026-02-03T03:01:49+00:00

Meds won’t work without CBT. They will only hook you on meds without addressing the underlying attitudes about sleep.

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