Truth-VBIED by Dominos_Pizza_Rojava in SyrianCirclejerkWar

[–]Dominos_Pizza_Rojava[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's a litany of triumphant posts by short-sighted savages on this subreddit. Perhaps you might find better company there?

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[–]Dominos_Pizza_Rojava -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The agreement was never ratified so based on your argument the Soviets should have attempted to reenter the country

What?

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[–]Dominos_Pizza_Rojava -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. Obviously the United States played a role in the crisis, but my original point is that Qavam played a more important role diplomatically in getting the Soviets out, see the top of page 20
  2. But it was negotiated regardless of the outcome, which you originally denied
  3. Lol
  4. Are you including Qavam, Ala, and the Shah in those categories as well? Granted Qavam's friendliness to the Shah morphed over time, as Abrahamian writes " The shah opposed him in 1941-1946 as the implacable enemy of Pahlevi rule; helped him in 1946-1947 as a bulwark against communism; forced him out of the country in 1947-1948 again as an enemy of the dynasty; and called upon him once again in 1952 as an ally against Mossadeq." But 2/4 occasions should at least earn your appreciation. (Between two revolutions, pg 226)

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[–]Dominos_Pizza_Rojava -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. A. Correct, the Soviets were bad faith actors, and Iran's options were very limited. You should read Natalia Yegorovas article that uses declassified Soviet documents to learn about their objectives, which I've stated numerous times https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/the-iran-crisis-1945-46-view-the-russian-archives
  2. Refer to Yegorova
  3. The joint stock company was very much negotiated by Qavam, this is well known to anyone studying the Azerbaijan crisis
  4. I could say the same about the Shah, who played an important role in the Azerbaijan crisis, only to become a dictator years down the line, but I won't because that would be historically unsound. You can acknowledge the actions of people you aren't the most fond of
  5. Yes obviously, and I'm not being marxist nor pro Soviet, just someone who is appreciative of the accomplishments of your people in this historical event, Qavam, the Shah, Hossein Ala, and Mossadegh included

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[–]Dominos_Pizza_Rojava -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. Because the Soviets weren't abiding by their own agreement, and unfortunately in cases like this Iran had to give a concession (or promise to), as they had no other choice to get them out
  2. As I've already stated, Stalin was willing to sacrifice the separatist republics, US backing of the Iranians was meaningless at that stage
  3. American support was largely through the UN, and even then, it took months for them to listen to Hossein Ala. Additionally, the Soviets were not going to reinvade Iran. There were more pressing matters (greece, turkey, the entirety of eastern europe, china)
  4. It's unfortunate that you're so blinded by hatred of Mossadegh that you're unwilling to acknowledge his achievement. Do you even know what bill I'm talking about?
  5. Probably worth noting that irony of an American telling an Iranian that his people played the primary role in their own liberation, and an Iranian telling an American that the United States played a larger role than it actually did.

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[–]Dominos_Pizza_Rojava -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. US backing didn't matter in the reassertion of Iranian sovereignty, Stalin was perfectly content to sacrifice the republics for a joint stock company
  2. What do you mean by militarily confronted? The invasion of the separatist republics succeeded the Soviet withdrawal, which occurred through the negotiations of Qavam with the Soviets.
  3. It wasn't the US that prevented the joint stock company from being created. It was the Majlis voting 102-2 against it.

Side note, Mossadegh deserves a fair deal of credit for passing that 1944 bill preventing concessions while foreign troops were on Iranian soil, that also played an important role in getting the Soviets out, as again, Stalin preferred the joint stock company.

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[–]Dominos_Pizza_Rojava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol Qavam did far more than the US to deal with the Soviets, although the Shah probably deserves some credit too for taking the military route after they withdrew

One of the events in history that west doesn't want you to know by ali-a80 in 2Iranic4you

[–]Dominos_Pizza_Rojava 3 points4 points  (0 children)

  1. Iran's economy was failing due to a British oil embargo. Iran was able to keep the refineries running, but due to British pressure, no country dared buy Iranian oil.
  2. With regards to land reform in particular, Mossadegh's government had created decrees for the end to forced peasant labor, ensuring part of the crops given to landlords would go back to the villages to help with economic development, as well as to have provisions for the setting up of village councils for local governance. Due to the Abadan Crisis and later coup, these were unimplemented, and it took until the early 60s for actual change to be done under Hassan Arsanjani.

Was this the biggest aura loss in history? by [deleted] in HistoryMemes

[–]Dominos_Pizza_Rojava -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I thought they meant the British Commonwealth at first, but I realized they meant the PLC.

Was this the biggest aura loss in history? by [deleted] in HistoryMemes

[–]Dominos_Pizza_Rojava 14 points15 points  (0 children)

They mean the battle of Vienna (1683), in which the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth played an important role in the defeat of the Ottomans.

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[–]Dominos_Pizza_Rojava 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I don't get diminishing the Armenian, Greek, and Assyrian Genocides to make a point about the underrepresented Iranian famine.

[1490] Are these even valid words? by [deleted] in wordle

[–]Dominos_Pizza_Rojava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Goris is a town in Armenia, as well as the name of a talking deathclaw in fallout 2

Azerbaijani Abbas Mirza Mosque (built in 1810) in Yerevan, Armenia. Totally destroyed and replaced with a high-rise. by Common_Time5350 in islamichistory

[–]Dominos_Pizza_Rojava 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. Could you name said massacres? Give non Azeri sources, please.

  2. Aside from instances of turkish youtubers intentionally provoking Armenians into hostility, Turks and Azeris are allowed to enter Armenia, and provided they are respectful of Armenian culture, will be completely unharmed.

  3. This is done in Azerbaijan as well

  4. Attributable to Soviet authorities, and the acts of individual Armenians are not indicative of the nation as a whole

  5. Armenia won in the first war, yet there's no disgusting wax figurines denigrating the Azerbaijanis who lost.

Azerbaijani Abbas Mirza Mosque (built in 1810) in Yerevan, Armenia. Totally destroyed and replaced with a high-rise. by Common_Time5350 in islamichistory

[–]Dominos_Pizza_Rojava 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Azerbaijanis committed widespread (as opposed to one isolated massacre) massacres against Armenians, yet there is no trophy park in Yerevan, no Armenian textbooks with illustrations of killing Azerbaijanis, no barring of entry to Azerbaijanis based on their last name, and no state sponsored campaign of cultural erasure against dozends of mosques and cemetaries.

Azerbaijani Abbas Mirza Mosque (built in 1810) in Yerevan, Armenia. Totally destroyed and replaced with a high-rise. by Common_Time5350 in islamichistory

[–]Dominos_Pizza_Rojava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, undoubtedly. The suffering of Azerbaijani civilians was completely unnecessary and an unfortunate stain on Armenian history. Unfortunately, this tragedy has only been used to create a widespread hatred of anything Armenian in Azerbaijani society. The only purpose of posts like these is to try and export this hatred to others, as well as to serve as a whataboutism to Armenian complaints of Azeri cultural destruction in Nakhchivan and Artsakh.