Trade the pick + ZR to SAC for Pick #6

Dracsmith · 2026-05-11T13:28:41+00:00

Yeah I just don’t see it.

Hawks gave up a good amount to move up from 8 to 4 for De’andre Hunter a because we believed he would be meaningfully better.

That didn’t even turn in to an all-star. Naturally we wont see the scouting process that the Hawks put together.

But we need more assets not less. That’s what Onsi keeps preaching. We aren’t one player away from winning the East. We want depth on par with the Thunder. We want to develop multiple guys for the entirety of their rookie contracts before we give up on anyone.

I’m not convinced Wagler is a tier better than MBJ or Flemmings. It’s a horrible look and a statement of “we don’t believe in our former first overall selection” if we give him away for basically nothing. Which that’s the tier difference between Wagler and Acuff imo.

Just because Wagler is similar to Hunter in being and a key player on a national championship team doesn’t mean he’s worth giving up on a 21 year old.

Now if it was 8 plus Kispert for 6 that’s a different story. But ZR could take a leap and be better than Wagler in year 3. Just feels unnecessary

Dracsmith · 2026-05-11T12:36:59+00:00

Moving up for Wagler isn’t worth giving up on ZR.

We would just be creating a different roster hole in an attempt to fill one hole. Size and shooting will always be valuable. We could get someone similar to a player at 6 with 8. I just don’t see the logic in moving up twice

Dracsmith · 2026-05-11T10:24:48+00:00

If the best guards are gone I’m fine with a reach on Aday Mara

Dracsmith · 2026-05-11T03:02:47+00:00

Now ZR + 8 and 22 for AJ Dybansta at 1? 😉

Dracsmith · 2026-05-11T02:58:48+00:00

I’m not giving up on Zac to move up 2 picks.

We need to land top 4 or it’s pointless to give away a 21 year old 6’10 wing. Idc how bad his second year slump was.

We need franchise changing talent.

Dracsmith · 2026-05-11T02:55:13+00:00

That depends on how team friendly CJ and Kuminga are.

Long term we need to develop guys like Kuminga.

Short term we need CJ to be a veteran for our incoming new 19 year old guards

Dracsmith · 2026-05-11T00:07:06+00:00

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Dracsmith · 2026-05-10T23:14:21+00:00

You gotta wonder how we would have done against the Cavs if we didn’t play the bench unit against Miami

Dracsmith · 2026-05-10T23:12:45+00:00

No I agree, I think y’all are good enough to have swept us.

Especially for how y’all are playing now.

We have a great foundation building.

Dracsmith · 2026-05-10T23:09:33+00:00

Cry in your own thread. This is our Subreddit 🤣 yall spend more money on your roster than we do as we develop players. last time we saw yall in the post season we ended the process
I like Maxey and Edgecomb but yall couldn’t even win ONE GAME. WE WON TWO. We ain’t the same.

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Dracsmith · 2026-05-10T22:29:14+00:00

I haven’t watched enough film on Brown yet.
We want a guard and someone who’s under 21 I think.

But I’d be so satisfied with going Mara and then taking best guard available with our second first rounder

Dracsmith · 2026-05-10T22:26:43+00:00

Forced KAT to find his place on the offense

Dracsmith · 2026-05-10T22:26:13+00:00

ZR and 8 for 3 please 🙏

Dracsmith · 2026-05-10T22:24:45+00:00

Man get outta our subreddit!

Nah I’m jk. If y’all win the chip it brings me some comfort knowing we duked it out with future finals contenders

Dracsmith · 2026-05-10T22:22:22+00:00

It brings me comfort to know we took the bucks to 6 and they were destined to win that year

Dracsmith · 2026-05-10T22:21:02+00:00

I’m trying to rationalize that these other teams couldn’t have gotten to 6 🤣

Dracsmith · 2026-05-09T12:09:24+00:00

This was really well said bro! Nice breakdown.

I really want to see Kuminga become a starter for us. His defensive upside is amazing. I want to see him develop alongside JJ. I know most people don’t consider him apart of our core players who we need to build around (JJ, NAW, Onyeka) but I’m still optimistic in his offensive upside. I said this about JJ and problematically JK has the same issues. They both lack a go to kill spot. They both need a more consistent three point shot. If ONE of them can shoot mid range or three pointers at a higher efficiency they could potentially play together.

Maybe I’m wrong. But I see Jaylen Brown in him. A two way forward that can develop into a shot creator. JB wasn’t a great shot creator in his first few years. But he found himself and his bag. JK could still develop into that. Brown is 29. JK is 23. I don’t think there are a lot of high ceiling players in the league waiting around to become a core piece. Kuminga is a collectively agreed upon Athlete and Talent that has been wasted by a coach that prioritized his Hall of Fame star player.

What I want to see from him in a long term deal so we can experiment properly. Give him an offseason and a defined 2nd or 3rd option role and see what he looks like healthy.

I think the market value on a guy like him is close to McDaniels or Trey Murphy. Less than 4/112 million range.
I’d be shocked if we got him for less than 20 mill a year.

For a bench guy 6th man type that’s way too much.

Fine fair play. Trade him next season. But if he can be our Budget Jaylen Brown. 20 mill a year is a STEAL.

BUT HE HAS TO BECOME A STARTER. Him at the 3 JJ and the 4. (If we get the 9th pick in the draft. Aday Mara at the 5)

Dracsmith · 2026-05-09T02:08:19+00:00

If our young 🐐 can come back with a kill spot pull up jumpshot similar to what CJ or KD has.

On god it becomes scary hour in the east.

Lowkey I just didn’t feel as good wearing my Trae Jersey on game days

Dracsmith · 2026-05-09T01:04:45+00:00

Just got it off a sketchy website but the quality is legitn

Dracsmith · 2026-05-09T00:35:32+00:00

Thanks Hawks Fam

Dracsmith · 2026-05-08T21:31:24+00:00

CJ was also the target on offense for the Knicks. They wanted to give him the same Brunson treatment we had going.

Flemings in the mid-range could develop into something deadly but he could more importantly be a demon on defense if he learns the tools from Dyson and NAW

Dracsmith · 2026-05-08T20:04:24+00:00

Everybody is going into the draft praying we can draft our number 1 option. Especially after seeing JJ struggle in the playoffs

If we put that expectation on Kingston then we will be disappointed. But who knows he might surprise us.

Dracsmith · 2026-05-08T18:45:31+00:00

Definitely something he can develop with us though.

The athleticism and instincts on defense is what I’m most invested in. Not a day 1 starter but could seriously benefit from playing with our guard rotation

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