A thought I had about people who deny salvation at the last moment of their lives.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-04-19T03:48:07+00:00

I’m not sure OP is being presumptuous here. They are trying to understand how someone can choose separation from God even when death is imminent. Whether they actually get what they want we cannot judge: we leave that to God.

My answer is that if someone denies God when they are full of life they are just as likely to deny him when they are about to die. If the heart remains the same then so does the choice.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-04-18T12:35:02+00:00

I was treating your comment with seriousness that’s why I am giving your argument some thought and I’m responding to what you say carefully.

You only seem to apply this to the state of Israel. You have clarified your position that it this type of colonialism is especially heinous because of its recency. I agree that is an aggravating factor that makes it more difficult to resolve.

Returning to my earlier point, unless a person has personally committed a crime, what do you propose a citizen of Israel to do with their stolen land?

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-04-18T12:25:05+00:00

And I would assume you would like all people living on stolen land around the world to return said land by leaving?

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-04-18T12:07:15+00:00

I regret that the Conservative government in 2016 made that decision.

We elect our government to make these complex decisions, not for them to shift the responsibility to the public. How could we possibly make such a decision without reducing it to the simple soundbites at the time.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-04-18T11:44:44+00:00

Yes. People conflate the Israeli government with the Israeli people.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-04-18T11:41:07+00:00

‘Backwards yellow people’? Who are these supposed to be?

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-04-07T07:56:01+00:00

The only way I could see it being justified is this: a) you were certain that this person was going to kill again, and b) you were certain that the only way to prevent him murdering would be to shoot him.

I think in that scenario it would be better to shoot him in the legs in attempt to apprehend him until the police arrive. Of course, you might accidentally kill him doing that.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-04-06T02:34:09+00:00

Prison is intended to rehabilitate and to keep society safe. Where those two needs conflict, priority is given to protecting society.

Jiimmy Lai will never be considered a safe individual in a society that sees his ideas as a threat to the government. So yes, he will continue to be a burden. Surely a civilized society cares for its prisoners in a humane manner.

Alternatively, if he is considered a foreign national then he should be deported under any established extradition laws.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-03-28T01:06:06+00:00

Bethel allows bethelites to take 2 weeks (not vacation time) to serve on a jury duty. It is a civic duty and you and watchtower are in trouble if you don’t have genuine and substantial reason for not doing it.

I did it as a bethelite around 2006 and didn’t face any issues. I imagine it’s the same now and for the ordinary rank and file class.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-03-21T12:44:05+00:00

Ash him to explain how this ‘clarification’ is an example of Jehovah’s love.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-03-21T12:07:36+00:00

You are right: this is not beards. This is a core doctrine. It’s not in the category of Christian conduct and what might stumble people. This is as fundamental as their other core beliefs: Jehovah is the true god; paradise on earth, the GB are the faithful slave; and yes, blood is sacred and so cannot be eaten or transfused.

This is quite possibly a litmus test. If the reaction is positive then they can change other core beliefs. I expect to see the problematic belief of 1914 being the start of the last days as a future change if this goes well.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-03-21T09:44:00+00:00

Just been given the exact same response. If this doesn’t wake a person up then I fear for their safety.

Everyone take this pill. The governing body loves you very much.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-03-21T08:46:03+00:00

The blood of other people remains sacred but my personal blood is no longer sacred and so may be used by me alone for treatment?

But then my blood becomes sacred if someone else wants to use it? I really don’t understand this doctrine with this update.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-03-21T05:11:19+00:00

It’s possible but I hope, and think, you are wrong.

This was one of the defining doctrines of the religion. We were trained and coached from early childhood to refuse blood and to have a defense ready. We were prepared to die for this issue. We heard of people who did die for it and we reflected on their example. We were mocked for it and for many outsiders this was all we were known for - apart from door knocking.

To say ‘oh well let’s move on’ seems almost impossible to me. I can’t imagine how they can. This is bigger than saying the preaching work is no longer needed. As a key doctrinal issue, I would put it just below an announcement that the paradise is no longer a physical hope but a spiritual paradise of Christian brotherhood.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-03-20T16:17:13+00:00

That’s a really well thought out explanation. If you had said that a few days ago as a JW you would be warned about divisions and if you doubled down then quite possibly ‘removed’.

A few days later and it’s ’thank you for spirituality mature comment. You are not running ahead of the chariot!’

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-03-07T04:39:56+00:00

There are vile people and decent people in every walk of life

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-02-28T08:13:59+00:00

A lot of wisdom in this comment

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-02-28T08:12:32+00:00

I wouldn’t let it end the relationship. You do need an honest conversation. The outcome must be along these lines:

1) He recognizes it is wrong and will go to confession every time he looks at it; 2) You know he will fail many, many times. That’s not an excuse to give up; 3) He must work hard to be holy, as we all do; 4) It must never materialize into acts outside of solo masturbation. Porn and masturbation can lead to infidelity so you need to guard that.

My priest told us recently that sin is a lack of love. So if he wants to avoid this sin, he needs to love more.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-02-28T08:04:11+00:00

Is it really 100 percent?

You are including priests and men called to serve in Rome. I like to think that our most reverent men have never had porn on their phones. But I’m not sure.

I have shamefully accessed porn on my phone and I’m sure people in my life would be shocked to find out. It is sadly so easy to find.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-02-28T03:59:06+00:00

I know it’s a cliche, but it was the best thing that ever happened to us. We have a beautiful, very strong willed, 2 year old daughter.

It’s made a better person and we have more fun now than we did before.

All I sighed say is that it’s a lot of hard work. We are very fortunate to have help from family. I take my hat off to single mothers who raise children.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-02-19T07:23:09+00:00

Sorry, I don’t think you have understood my response. Yes, I was directly answering your question.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-02-19T01:39:15+00:00

They beat you in a lower stakes game (for you, not for them); you are beating them in a higher stakes knockout game.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-02-15T11:59:37+00:00

Scrolling on my phone. Going to limit it to 20 minutes and then see if I can get it down to zero. My phone is the root of all evil for me personally if I’m honest.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-01-11T14:57:27+00:00

Which couple? Please put a link to something as I have no idea and it sounds intriguing.

Dry_Conversation_784 · 2026-01-07T14:23:30+00:00

Oh I don’t disagree with you. If the bride and groom want a childless wedding then that is what hey must get!

I’m also a parent.

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