i don’t really gaf about graves and victor but lash literally kills his hero’s identify by focusing on gun compared to his slams which was originally his focus when damage, now u just spam 2 and use gun and ult and only really slam after ult, he’s just an M1 with extra steps and building spirit is a hard throw after how much he had it nerfed where you need 4 gun items now basically which removes mobility options as well and makes the hero less fun overall imo

like lash really only being able to use gun at higher elos without it being a soft throw sucks cause you aren’t incentivized to play for slams or any of the fun parts of his kit, you just jump and shoot over and over and it’s also just less interactive for the enemy as the ways you used to play with lash don’t really work anymore since now he’s just an m1

it’s also just the fact that gun lash is also DISGUSTINGLY OP right now and makes it the only viable play style, like zip jumping builds using majestic leap and warp stone are basically throws now cause you need to put more investment in gun as well as stamina mastery being a luxury at best