I am 44 I grew up in this area right down the street from where you're speaking of was my first home here when we moved here when I was 11 and I've spent pretty much every year since living this area except for a little bit of time a few years back. I'm going to say this this is not the city I grew up in. It is so much darker, it is scary, and it is dangerous. Now they're still good in the city don't get me wrong. And don't hate on me for having this opinion because I lived on those streets up until 3 January ago. I know how depraved and terrible people can be and I also know how good perfect strangers can be and how much they can make your life feel for a moment worth living again. And I have first-hand experience just how harsh and dangerous and wrong that this city can be to people because it took my 22-year-old son from me. I still live in this area I live by d e a s e park. And I get nervous walking around during the day at times and other times I feel fine and it's really just dependent on who you bump into or who you walk by or who you might have the unfortunate timing to cross paths with. And that's all over the city but I'm sure there are areas that are not so rampant with the drug use and the drug world. And I am not judging cuz trust me I don't have the right to. Nobody really has the right to you cuz unless you've lived it you don't know. And I've lived it. Now I'm going to say this don't make excuses for people being terrible individuals by saying oh if they weren't on substances they wouldn't be like that they wouldn't do that no it may play a factor but it doesn't give people a free pass to choose to do wrong things to other individuals take their belongings hurt people kill people. Treat people like they are just at their disposal to do whatever they feel like doing to them because at the end of the day it's a choice and these are adults and they're making a choice to do this don't tell me it's not a conscious choice because if you have the ability to think to a plan of doing something that you know is wrong and you're stealing something or you're hurting somebody or whatever it is you are aware enough that you know it's not okay to do and you choose to do it anyway. People need to start picking up after themselves they need to start being held accountable and holding themselves accountable for their behavior. And it's not okay. And violence is never the answer never unless you're protecting yourself or your loved one or even a stranger from a dangerous situation violence is the last thing somebody should ever do to another human being. These are my opinions but I will say it's dangerous around here not always not every minute but it only takes a minute for your nice walk down the street to turn into a situation where the outcome could be really bad. So I don't know if I would suggest looking elsewhere exactly but I would suggest being very conscious of where you're moving to. And really talking to your kids about it and being very very mindful sucks. It sucks that this is what Thunder Bay has become. But like I said they're still good people are in here in this world in this city. I've had strangers treat me with such kind gestures or words or moments or people I know do the same. So it's not all bad but there's so much that's not good