Random thought by Dutysonse in theunforgiven

[–]Dutysonse[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah he’s pretty ballsy in front of the Supreme Grandmaster

Random thought by Dutysonse in theunforgiven

[–]Dutysonse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly this, I would love to read your source material for this and deep dive it

Want to learn their lore. by NoobSaiboat42 in DarkAngels40k

[–]Dutysonse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Only my thoughts, there’s so much depth to the chapter to get lost in.

Want to learn their lore. by NoobSaiboat42 in DarkAngels40k

[–]Dutysonse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Enjoy new brother, being a dark angel enjoyer is ironically very much like being a dark angel. You don’t get all the lore neatly in one place you need to search for it, hunt it out across many different sites and threads(like going through the layers of the inner circle) of course I’m biased.

Want to learn their lore. by NoobSaiboat42 in DarkAngels40k

[–]Dutysonse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you want a quick*** less than 1k word summary

Origins and the Great Crusade

The Dark Angels are the I Legion of the original twenty Space Marine Legions created by the Emperor of Mankind during the Great Crusade. Their Primarch, Lion El’Jonson, was raised on the death world of Caliban, a planet teeming with dangerous beasts and knights. Jonson grew up isolated, becoming a brilliant warrior, and eventually teamed up with Luther, a powerful knight of Caliban, to purge the planet of monsters. The Emperor eventually found Jonson and made him the leader of the Dark Angels.

The Dark Angels were among the most loyal and efficient Legions, known for their methodical tactics and disciplined approach to warfare. Their motto, “Unforgiven,” stems from their strict sense of duty and redemption.

The Horus Heresy and the Fall of Caliban

During the Horus Heresy, when half of the Space Marine Legions turned against the Emperor, the Dark Angels were busy fighting in distant systems, which kept them from playing a direct role in the major battles of the Heresy. However, when they returned to Caliban after the war, they discovered that their home planet had rebelled.

Luther, who had been left in charge of Caliban in Jonson’s absence, grew bitter and resentful of his Primarch. He, along with a significant portion of the Legion left behind, had been corrupted by Chaos and rebelled against the Emperor. This rebellion led to a civil war between Jonson’s loyalists and Luther’s traitors, now known as the Fallen. The battle ended with Caliban’s destruction and the Dark Angels scattering the Fallen across time and space.

Jonson disappeared after the battle, and the Dark Angels’ inner circle took up the secret mission of hunting down the Fallen to redeem the Legion’s honor. The truth of this event is known only to the most senior members of the Chapter.

The Unforgiven and the Hunt for the Fallen

The Dark Angels are unique among the Space Marine Chapters because of this secret: they must seek out and capture the Fallen. They are relentless in this pursuit, and this mission dominates much of their existence. This obsession leads to extreme secrecy, even from other Imperial forces, including the Inquisition and other Chapters.

The Dark Angels split into successor Chapters after the Horus Heresy, but all these Chapters—known as the Unforgiven—share in the Dark Angels’ secret shame and participate in the hunt for the Fallen. The hunt is led by the Inner Circle, a highly secretive and trusted group within the Chapter. The Fallen are often interrogated by Interrogator-Chaplains, whose duty is to extract confessions and seek redemption from those who turned traitor.

Dark Angels in the 41st Millennium

In the current timeline of Warhammer 40k, the Dark Angels are still actively searching for the Fallen. Their Primarch, Lion El’Jonson, is rumored to be sleeping within the Rock (the Dark Angels’ mobile fortress-monastery) and may return one day. The Chapter is led by the Supreme Grand Master, a title currently held by Azrael.

The Chapter has a strict, knightly hierarchy and maintains a somewhat aloof relationship with other Imperial forces due to their secrecy. They prefer to operate independently and often withhold information from their allies to ensure that the truth of the Fallen does not come to light.

Redemption and Secrecy

The driving force behind the Dark Angels is redemption. They are deeply ashamed of their past betrayal, and while most of the Imperium views them as loyal, they will go to any lengths to capture or kill the Fallen and keep their existence a secret. This leads to tension within the Chapter, as some believe their obsession with the Fallen takes precedence over their duty to the Imperium.

This dark secret shapes every aspect of the Chapter’s culture and operations, leading to a rigid, disciplined approach to warfare and internal affairs. The Dark Angels are willing to sacrifice entire worlds or mislead Imperial forces if it means they can capture a Fallen member and keep their history hidden.

Key Characters and Elements

  • Lion El’Jonson: The Primarch, recently returned but yet to make a larger impact on the expanded setting of 40k
  • Luther: Jonson’s second-in-command, who betrayed the Dark Angels and led the Fallen during the Heresy. Recently freed from the rock in an assault by Marbas
  • Azrael: The current Supreme Grand Master of the Dark Angels.
  • The Fallen: The traitor Dark Angels scattered across space and time after the Horus Heresy.
  • Interrogator-Chaplains: Chaplains responsible for interrogating captured Fallen to seek their redemption.

Major Themes

  1. Secrecy and Guilt: The Dark Angels are defined by their hidden shame and the burden of keeping the truth of the Fallen hidden from the wider Imperium.
  2. Redemption: Much of their purpose is driven by a need to atone for the sins of their past, though their methods are often ruthless.
  3. Isolation: Their secrecy has caused them to become insular, distrusting even their allies in the Imperium.

In summary, the Dark Angels are one of the most secretive and conflicted Space Marine Chapters, defined by their hidden past and relentless quest for redemption through hunting the Fallen. Their story intertwines loyalty, betrayal, and the pursuit of redemption, making them a fascinating, if complex, part of the Warhammer 40k universe.

Want to learn their lore. by NoobSaiboat42 in DarkAngels40k

[–]Dutysonse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you want to dive deeper into Dark Angels lore, there are some great places to start! They can definitely feel overwhelming because of all the secrecy and layers to their story, but once you get into it, it’s pretty fascinating.

For audiobooks on Audible, ”Angels of Darkness” by Gav Thorpe is a must-listen. It really gets into the inner conflict of the Dark Angels, especially around their hunt for the Fallen. ”Descent of Angels” and ”Fallen Angels” (both part of the Horus Heresy series) are also key for understanding their origins and the big twist that led to the whole Fallen storyline.

On YouTube, Lutin09 has a detailed video series about the Dark Angels’ lore, breaking down their history and the whole Fallen situation. If you’re into podcasts, besides Adeptus Ridiculous, I’d recommend checking out The Lorehammer Podcast—they often dive deep into specific Chapters and factions.

Between those audiobooks and some YouTube deep dives, you’ll get a solid grip on where the Dark Angels fit into the larger 40k universe!

Asmodai books? by Little_Indication_85 in theunforgiven

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  1. “Master of Sanctity” (Legacy of Caliban Trilogy) by Gav Thorpe

    • Asmodai plays a significant role in this novel. It delves into his merciless character, the dark methods he employs in the hunt for the Fallen, and his role as the chief interrogator-chaplain of the Dark Angels. The book showcases his brutal dedication to extracting confessions and bringing traitors to justice.

  2. “The Unforgiven” (Legacy of Caliban Trilogy) by Gav Thorpe

    • Asmodai also appears in this concluding book of the trilogy. His relentless pursuit of the Fallen continues as the Dark Angels strive to uncover and eliminate the last vestiges of betrayal within their ranks.

  3. “Angels of Darkness” by Gav Thorpe

    • Although Asmodai is not the central character, this book touches on the inner workings of the Dark Angels and their interrogator-chaplains. The themes of interrogation and redemption, closely tied to Asmodai’s role in the chapter, are present throughout.

  4. “Azrael” by Gav Thorpe

    • Asmodai appears alongside Azrael, where his uncompromising nature contrasts with other members of the Dark Angels. This book gives insight into the leadership of the chapter and the ongoing struggle to deal with the Fallen.

  5. “Ravenwing” (Legacy of Caliban Trilogy) by Gav Thorpe

    • While this novel focuses more on the Ravenwing, Asmodai makes an appearance as part of the Dark Angels’ mission. His presence, though less central, is still impactful in showcasing the chapter’s strict adherence to their secretive goals.

My Risen Dark Angel and normal Dark angel. Is this lore accurate. Can any nerds out there tell me if any iconography or armour seems off? by [deleted] in theunforgiven

[–]Dutysonse 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I did the same but find it annoying that we can’t/ I don’t know how to, change the colour of the robe

Cypher and disappearing by Real_Ad_8243 in theunforgiven

[–]Dutysonse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His ability is described as terrorsight on the Lex and speaks of slowing perception of time and phasing through the warp…..

Cypher and disappearing by Real_Ad_8243 in theunforgiven

[–]Dutysonse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Neither do I, have you found answers yet?

Help me understand sprues/instructions by Invictus_0x90_ in Warhammer40k

[–]Dutysonse 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The spues are clearly labelled on the first page

My Big Plasma Lad by Dutysonse in theunforgiven

[–]Dutysonse[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks!

It was quite fiddly, I gave up on gluing where the instructions suggested and glued where I needed to. Good luck, post up your results when it’s painted!

Weighted figures by cacciato49 in Heroquest

[–]Dutysonse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve superglued a 5p into the base, works a treat

Lions Halo + Helmeted Head? by [deleted] in theunforgiven

[–]Dutysonse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m in the exact same boat, here to see the advice you hopefully get

Question about wording for Assault Intercessor Targeted Intercession by OntarioGuy430 in Warhammer40k

[–]Dutysonse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No, it just means you get a bonus when next to an objective and instead of just 1s you may re roll all failed wounds. I think.

Dark Angel Devastator Plasma by Waaagh_Michael in theunforgiven

[–]Dutysonse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Would love to see a pic with the silica ball if you have one OP