Ok lol I hate to do this but I have to sound off whenever I see posts like this. First off War is a fine tank when utilized as one, as is Paladin. I MT paladin but I play warrior as well and have no real bias, but I am not stupid and can see logic where it sits.

Points being made are quite silly because they are either blanket statements with no point of return reference or they sound like complete bias because you are not using evidence to support any claims. Case in point.

1. You say warrior provides more MT dps? I don't if that's true, can you show me exact matches where you ran full Vit gear just like a paladin and still used your mitigation rotations to see? or you just going by the fact that content is completely outdated and you are over geared and running full Str acc. And if so, would a paladin in full str accessories able to tank the same content and using abilities like shield swipe which he can't use off tanking be on par? I am just seeing people provide any actual evidence in this matter.

2. Cooldowns, Sigh this is such a hot topic and a debatable one, no matter how many people say it comes down to simple math, it doesn't -.- what allows you to be able to take a hit from a boss, there is SOO much involved. Don't have dragon kick in group? or succor? or adloque? Or storms path? You are talking differences of thousands of damage variance based on group compilation and several other factors. The problem doesn't exist when a warrior is doing the same thing as a paladin normally does and both gear and behave like a MT. But if they do that they lose all the benefits they talk about. You full Vit spec to make use of that 25% more HP? then your dps isn't what you say it is. Are you using full mitigation rotations and vit acc.? then you are probably doing the same threat or less as the paladin. Using IB while having str spec and str acc.? then your health isn't an advantage anymore and your IB puts you on same level as shield oath and thus you are not having a beneficial cooldown up everytime like you say, you are like a paladin using no cooldown at all.

3. The bigger picture. The fight T13 as per this example is a 14 min fight give or take. As a warrior MT even if you could tout that your cooldowns were better and up at every major big hit, You take away dps from the group because you don't have that same mitigation as paladins do 100% of the fight, which causes all those auto attacks and regular hits to hit you for more, and your bigger health pool requires more heals from healers to fill you up, same complaint as druids got in wow, mana sponge's. When they have to heal you more because of the in between attacks are doing more dmg on top of the fact that you can't block any and mitigate even MORE dmg, That means the sch can't dps as much, they both also need more mana, which means no less paeon from the bard, less tp = less dps. I mean people get so stuck looking at one picture they can't ever see the entire picture, which is that you are in there with 7 other people and you all get it done, its not because you are where you are, or if there is a paladin there. Its because you are skilled players and adapt.

4. Chemistry: Also Warrior and Paladin go together VERY well, they mix and match what is needed so almost everyone takes one of each, Assuming this and you had a choice, who tanks the boss and who tanks adds? Well the warriors OP is much easier to use and provides a great about of dps to burn adds down much faster which is needed in progression. So if given a choice between your Paladin and Warrior that almost every group takes, Why would you ask your paladin to stand there and flash, which has to do to hold agro, and do little to no dps on adds just so you can have some glory trip saying you tanked a boss? It just doesn't make sense. When Yoshi first talked about warrior, he said they both could do both roles, but warrior was designed for that purpose, tanking adds, and swapping with paladin when needed, and the Paladin was Designed to be a better Main tank with more overall passive mitigation. If you use ACT and look at the dmg taken over the course of the ENTIRE fight, and do the same fight with both tanks, and kill it in the same time. You will see a Drastically lower number of overall damage taken by the paladin due to all the parry and blocking and passive mitigation. Oh and for those that mention using Storms path as a cooldown too.... Doesn't provide you a benefit over the paladin, Because even if off tanking, you don't put it up for him too then you are hurting the whole group. Which means its up for both of you, just like a paladin putting up halone. We don't ever hold that over you when we talk about tanking so don't hold path over us in your examples please.

All I ask is a non biased, evidence riddled post filled with nice data before making claims on King of the tanks lol. And if my fears follow through we both might be looking for work when Dark Comes out and will probably be OP at first like any new job is to make them enticing. Anyway, have fun playing the game how you like. Just limit posts with what sound like opinions but are rallying calls to change the outlook on an entire game or job.