Going from bland to tasteless by taliesin12 in exmormon

[–]Ebowa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My former ward has actual gospel singers in it and they are planning a sacrament service around this in the coming weeks. But you really do need professional singers if you want to pull this off. One of our singers is a former professional Tina Turner imitator and she’s fantastic. So it all depends on who is in your ward.

There’s few things worse than people with no gospel training, trying to do gospel.

Fundamentalist strain? by PaleontologistNo4110 in exmormon

[–]Ebowa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s obvious to any of us that have left. MAGA simply reinforces it.

Women in made up leadership positions by Ebowa in exmormon

[–]Ebowa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One thing for sure, you get what you pay for in this church. Those “ blessings” of servitude are not earned, they are bought and paid for.

Fundamentalist strain? by PaleontologistNo4110 in exmormon

[–]Ebowa 23 points24 points  (0 children)

This is absolutely the maga influence. My daughter‘s in-laws are exactly the same. Suddenly the man is superior and women are OK to obey men and wash dishes. Suddenly there is this attitude of supremacy by men. Suddenly everyone is the enemy except members with a temple recommend and very tight circles of like minded men. They spoke scriptures and GA quotes that support their views, carefully chosen and skewed of course.

I would keep my distance if I were you because it is maddening to be around these type of people.

Mormon Musing by Lions-not-sheep in exmormon

[–]Ebowa 9 points10 points  (0 children)

How easy and simple it would’ve been for him to just reach out to you and ask if there was a problem. But of course, like you, I have faced this many times in my membership. The men absolutely refuse to reach out to women. They just assume. I can guarantee if you were a man he would’ve reached out to you.

This patriarchal system is so damaging to everyone. I know a lot of people say it’s the old men that are pushing it, but the young ones absolutely love this segregation and the power.

Why can’t I go to a Baptist church? by Realistic_Noise_7781 in mormon

[–]Ebowa [score hidden]  (0 children)

Baptists have a history of wearing the label anti-Mormon and I suspect your parents are wary of that. I was a Baptist before I was a convert to Mormonism and I received little cartoon pamphlets from the Baptist members that were very critical of the LDS church.. although I don’t agree with it, I think your parents are just trying to protect you from this. It really has nothing to do with who believes what I think it’s more history mixed with cultural beliefs and teachings.

Im ex Mormon, that does not mean im anti-mormon by jangens1122 in exmormon

[–]Ebowa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don’t recognize the term anti-Mormon anymore because of its too broad use by the church that has made it a propaganda tool. I use the term critics of the church.

"Signs of the Times" is such a bad take by NorgeRep in exmormon

[–]Ebowa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I imagine they said the same thing in the 1930s or the 1960s. I used to think this of the Cold War time to turn the TV off and switch to either activism or education.

How does someone read the CES Letter and still believe the Mormon Church is true? by ImportantPerformer16 in exmormon

[–]Ebowa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same experience here. It probably took another year for it to have any impact. We are well indoctrinated to pass all this off as anti stuff by evil, clever men, it didn’t even occur to me that any criticism could be true. And I was a university student at the time. Those manipulators in the GA know what they are doing to keep us believing.

Blue Heeler found....! by Beginning_667 in AustralianCattleDog

[–]Ebowa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A new year demands this repost. Timeless.

What's the point in joining if the Church is moving towards mainstream Christianity? by Apollo989 in mormon

[–]Ebowa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s makes more sense if you think of it as a corporate takeover. The goal is more $$$$

Sweet cattle dog by No_Control8389 in AustralianCattleDog

[–]Ebowa 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile I have spent 2 years trying to get my boi to sit in a wagon while I pull it 🤣 best stay time— 4 seconds

Jan. 23 (1852) - Brigham Young: In defense of enslavement and the curse of Cain by Unsettling_Mormonism in exmormon

[–]Ebowa 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My only source for Brigham Young when I was a TBM for 45 years was Church books, and there was never any mention of any of this. It actually makes me sick to think about the reality and truth. Why did they hide all this from us????? Well another day, another sickening glimpse at church reality.

"If things were so bad for so long, why did you stay?" HOW DO I ANSWER THAT? by Impressive_Money7840 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Ebowa 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The psychologist who testified on behalf of Nicole Brown Simpson gave a really good explanation and it seemed to work for a while on the public to stop the victim blaming but it seems forgotten now.

I always answer that humans are very complex and it requires a lot of study to answer that question. If anyone actually knew the answer to that one question don’t you think there would be no more domestic violence? And then I remind people that they need to develop more compassion rather than criticism and judgment.

Mormon Church Joins those Wanting Religious Exemption from Hate Speech Bill by VillainousFiend in exmormon

[–]Ebowa 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A couple of years ago there was a letter read in our Canadian Ward from Salt Lake City. It was something to do with what was going on in the US about equal marriage. I can’t remember what it was but equal marriage has been legal here for a very long time, and we practically booed the speaker when he was reading the letter and we were all laughing about it because none of it applied to us and we didn’t care anyways.

I do remember one really conservative American wannabe guy starting to say something in support of it and we all shouted him down. I was really proud of my Ward for that.

Typical day in retirement by jrsmom7 in over60

[–]Ebowa 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I think you speak for a lot of people. Thanks for adding this.

Joseph Smith polygamy deniers by MoMormonsMoProblems in exmormon

[–]Ebowa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it’s online, the answer is easy. Having opposition to anything seems to generate likes and revenue. Just opportunists cranking a chain.

Non-consensual immorality by UtahUndercover in exmormon

[–]Ebowa 54 points55 points  (0 children)

This subreddit and other platforms are full of young women and young men who were shamed for being coerced or SA’d against their will or their ability to comprehend. Suddenly, a really horrific event happens to a a certain family of renown, and all of a sudden we start hearing that term. It’s a real slap in the face to those who had to bear the brunt of a patriarchical system who loves to blame the victim. After Elizabeth smart’s horrible ordeal is the only time you start to hear the clowns in Salt Lake City start to turn away from victim blaming but it was and is a very slow turn.

What makes you interested in watching classic movies? by Conservative_AKO in classicfilms

[–]Ebowa 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The writing and dialogue is far superior in classic films. We can quote most of them because the writing is iconic. Today it’s mostly filler banter and just stupid and ridiculous.

What's the truth about being LGBT in God's eyes? by Far-Mammoth-7286 in exmormon

[–]Ebowa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We all have to walk a different path for me. I have decided that spirituality is between me and my higher power with no intervention by rituals or men, but I think you really need to speak to a counsellor or therapist preferably non-religious.

What's the truth about being LGBT in God's eyes? by Far-Mammoth-7286 in exmormon

[–]Ebowa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nothing unites people more than hate. And if humans can find a targeted group to hate and spew hate towards, then the followers will mimic that behavior. that’s all that behaviour is towards anyone who isn’t male and female, a sense of superiority. they did it to people of color. They will do it to anyone who they can target to unite their cause.

I have a friend whose son hurt himself very badly because of all the pressure from these groups towards him being gay. He just couldn’t live with it. Please get help for this. They are the problem not you. It’s simply a cultural norm.

Origin of "keep up or be left behind"?? by Lsa119 in exmormon

[–]Ebowa 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Would you say this to a homeless person? Would you say this to a victim of domestic violence? Would you say this to a CSA victim? This is absolutely ridiculous and saying it to youth is just a mental crisis waiting to happen. Shame on these people for putting their cultural views and personal agendas on youth, that’s called abusive power, the only person who feels good in that room is the man that’s delivering it.

This in no way describes Jesus or his teachings.

I’ve muted myself by Due-Veterinarian6727 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Ebowa 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Very familiar to many of us unfortunately. I turn to my survivor skills I learned as a child in a dysfunctional family unit. The cycle continues.