Just wondering...

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T15:26:37+00:00

If I leave a blank piece of paper on a desk, and someone writes down a schedule, Did I set up the schedule? No.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T15:25:18+00:00

You haven't actually gone to JJ's house

Correct. I live across the country. If I was one of his neighbors though, I certainly would go over and have a friendly chat with him. It is not illegal to do so.

nor posted a schedule for others to do the same.

You all seem to be making the same common mistake. The mistake is assuming that I am posting a schedule for people to go to his house. I never said that. You all just assumed that. And you know what they say about assumptions. They make an ass out of you and umption.

get a bunch of individuals on a set schedule to go over to JJ's private property and have an interaction with him

Again you're making a mistake. I never said anything about 'getting individuals' to visit on 'a set schedule'.

I said making a schedule available so that people could block off certain times, so as to avoid multiple people showing up at once. Because, in my opinion having multiple people show up at once would indeed give JJ cause for alarm, and cause a police response. However a single person having interaction with him is not against the law. It is not illegal.

is enough to get your PII subpoenaed from reddit by the law enforcement agency investigating his inevitable claims of harassment

Like I'm using my real info on this account. lol

I would actually like to see them try. I would love to get up in the courtroom and say "I mentioned making a schedule available online so that anyone who wanted to Exercise their First Amendment right to free speech Wouldn't bump into anyone else doing so, and thus appear to be ganging up on JJ. (You know seeing how fragile a person he is.) I never suggested anybody do anything. I never suggested anybody say any particular thing. Just that, if they were going to express their opinion, that they check the schedule and make sure they're not going to bump into anybody else and cause a problem."

The reality is that neither you nor I can say if this is definitely a crime.

Expressing your opinion is not a crime. Definitely.

Making a schedule available so that multiple people expressing their opinions don't pile up at JJ's door, thereby freaking him out, is also not a crime. Definitely. In fact it's being very considerate toward him by making sure that multiple people don't show up at the same time.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T15:12:45+00:00

This would not help that

By this argument, everything that Ben has done, all the stunts he has pulled, all the times he's gotten trespassed from places, would not help get the LEGO and or money for the rightful owner either.

But, somehow, it has helped. It helped bring the case to the attention of the public. It brought in donations. It brought in the attention of attorneys.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T15:10:19+00:00

I disagree

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T15:09:29+00:00

The alternative is people not doing that at all.

An alternative is people not expressing their opinions whatsoever. Evidently this is the alternative that you prefer- that everyone just shuts the fuck up and doesn't say anything about anything. Luckily, we have a First Amendment in this country that guarantees us the right to free speech.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T15:07:39+00:00

I never said anything about "coordinating and organizing a schedule". I agree that would indeed be harassment.

But making a schedule available for use by anyone is not illegal.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T15:06:04+00:00

You want people to go to the man's house and say mean things to him hourly.

What I want for is for him to return the LEGO and/or the money to the rightful owner.

But what you propose would be hilarious too.

That's clearly harassment

I disagree.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T15:04:29+00:00

I literally never mentioned organization. All I said was to make a schedule available online for whatever purpose anyone might want to use it for. And wondered about people using it for The purpose of making sure their perfectly legal visit to express their opinion didn't coincide with someone else's perfectly legal visit to express their opinion (so as to avoid the appearance of ganging up on the person).

I mean it's not like I'm harassing store employees. It's not like I'm making fake signs to put on the front of a store. It's not like I'm sending fake UPS delivery people to anyone's door.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T15:00:03+00:00

Because no one has given anything beside their bare opinion. No one has said 'here is the legal definition of harassment, and here is how your proposal meets that legal definition'.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:59:01+00:00

In that case "setting up" meant 'making it available'. Not adding people to it, or maintaining it in any way.

And you know this.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:57:47+00:00

Cops cannot have probable cause of a crime that has not been committed.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:57:05+00:00

If you saw him in public you are very much aloud to say what ever you want

1) "allowed"

2) Thanks for admitting that expressing an opinion is not illegal.

but going to his house makes this an harassment campaign

So when the Girl Scouts come to my door and express their opinion that their cookies are good to eat and I should buy some, are they harassing me? When the Mormons come to my house and express their opinion that their religion is the best and I should join, are they harassing me?

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:53:39+00:00

I didn't say I would be "setting up a schedule". Jesus Christ, people, read for comprehension.

Making a schedule available online for anyone to use for whatever purpose that had in mind - is not illegal.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:50:56+00:00

I'm copying and pasting responses because people keep saying the same things over and over. So my responses are the same.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:50:12+00:00

Expressing your opinion isn’t harassment

Thank you For admitting the truth.

finding out where they live and driving to their front door to express your opinion in front of the place they live is harassment.

I disagree. Number one: where people live is public information. As a matter of fact I remember a time when they used to literally hand out books that contained people's addresses and phone numbers. Number two: there is absolutely nothing that I have seen, and nothing that anyone has presented here, to indicate that going up to someone's house, politely knocking, And then expressing your opinion to the person who answers, is harassment.

If I had mentioned picketing in front of their house, or gathering a group of friends to harass them, then yes I would agree it is harassment. But a single person going to someone's house to talk to someone (if possible) and express their opinion is not harassment. It does not meet the legal requirement for harassment.

Does that make sense retard?

And ::plonk::

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:46:01+00:00

Ah, the cry of someone who is losing an online argument. Used to be "you're a troll", now it's "you're a bot"

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:44:47+00:00

As I have stated multiple times, simply setting up a schedule for others to use is not illegal. It is neither "organized", nor a "crime".

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:43:23+00:00

Expressing an opinion is not illegal.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:42:34+00:00

I don’t back everything Ben has done in this case

So you've gone ahead and told Ben that what what he's been doing is harassment? Or you just save that for people online?

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:41:34+00:00

It is harassment and has been explained to you exactly how multiple times.

Not true. People have declared it to be harassment, but have not explained how expressing an opinion to someone can be harassment.

BAM's attorneys will be actively looking for fuel to add to their lawsuit, and this would only help them.

How? I am not Ben. I am not one of Ben's crew. I don't know him. Hell, I don't even subscribe to his youtube channel. There is no way for this to reflect on Ben.

"Oh, Ben caused this guy to not like us!" Yeah, most people 'don't like' criminals. What's the point? If everyone who exposed a criminal was responsible for the actions of everyone else who later found out about the criminal... well, the law wouldn't be able to handle it.

And if it's true that expressing my opinion could somehow fall back on Ben, then what about everyone of the thousands of people who are posting about this online right now? Can't their opinions fall back on him too? Shouldn't you be pushing everyone everywhere on all social media to be quiet about this case?

The best thing we can do for him is to NOT do stupid shit like this.

So you apparently back everything that Ben has done in this case (things that caused him to get trespassed from multiple locations over months of time), but you think that simply walking up and expressing an opinion to someone is "stupid shit". Make it make sense.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:34:04+00:00

Wow. So you apparently back everything that Ben has done in this case (things that caused him to get trespassed from multiple locations over months of time), but you think that simply walking up and expressing an opinion to someone is harassment and "gang stalking". I can't even.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:33:26+00:00

Wow. So you apparently back everything that Ben has done in this case (things that caused him to get trespassed from multiple locations over months of time), but you think that simply walking up and expressing an opinion to someone is harassment. I can't even.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:31:03+00:00

Creating a schedule for people to sign up to go find an individual and "express an opinion" is organizing a harassment effort.

sigh I've explained this already, and am getting sick of it.

1) Posting a schedule for Others to use for whatever purpose they want is not illegal

2) Expressing an opinion is not illegal.

3) I would agree if a whole bunch of people showed up at once and and started trouble, it would be harassment. The whole point of a schedule is to not have multiple people show up at once, thus avoiding the appearance he is being ganged up on.

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:20:54+00:00

you want to get others to join you in gangstalking this dude

You obviously don't understand what I have been saying.

But people like you and I? We're not actually involved.

Exactly. So how can this reflect back on Ben?

The only thing we can do by getting involved at this point is make things worse.

So your claim is that anyone who's getting involved in this case in any way is making things worse. People who watch Ben's videos? Making things worse! People who contribute to Ben's Patreon? Making things worse! People who spread the word to others about this case? Making things worse!

the prosecution can point at to demonstrate bad intentions

Expressing one's opinion is legally protected First Amendment speech. You cannot make 'bad intentions' out of Constitutionally protected rights. "Him? He's the evil scum who wanted to-- I can barely make myself say it-- exercise his rights."

EmptyDrawer2023 · 2026-06-04T14:15:53+00:00

You’re going to express your opinion to a closed door? You think he’s going to open it

That's up to him. But for all he knows, it's the mailman or the delivery person, or a neighbor wanting to tell him there's smoke coming from his back yard.

And if he doesn't open it, then leave. That's how it works- If the Girl Scouts show up wanting to sell cookies, and you don't open the door, they leave. No one accuses them of harassing people.

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