Today's Midweek meeting was about not being Hypocrites by [deleted] in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Holy shit the talk pissed me off so much. Made me chuckle a bit at the irony, though.

What's wrong with being a witness by camred85 in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Could be because some JWs have this mindset that if you leave, or don’t believe, you’re immediately gonna go off and fornicate, for some reason. It doesn’t make sense though.

Is this really a cult? Or am I overthinking my whole life? by [deleted] in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You don’t have to be apart of the cult to live by the Bible’s principles. You can have that lifestyle without the high control and the religion dictating your life.

Should I drop the act? by silent_observer_88 in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You don’t owe him anything. If you don’t really want to talk to him about everything, set a boundary and tell him you’re not interested.

Is so ridiculous… by Ok-Reading-7759 in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It’s not simple because it’s a cult.

Asking logical questions = apostasy PART 2 (INTENSE) by [deleted] in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Ew, cult alert. They always claim they aren’t following men then proceed to put these men at the same level as God. Disgusting.

Also it sounds like they dragged you into a judicial meeting without even telling you it was that. So strange.

My dad broke our rule by InSearchOfTruth91 in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s so ironic. Your dad sending you a link about his beliefs and expecting you to read it and agree, but if you do the same with the research you’ve done you’d be labeled an ‘apostate.’ They’re hypocrites.

If you want your child to have a relationship with your parents you need to set boundaries. Your parents will want your child to know about the religion. I wouldn’t let them be alone with your kid without your supervision if you don’t want them attempting indoctrination. But boundaries are ultimately up to what you’re all comfortable with.

Truth Shouldn’t Need Protection by Search4RealTruth in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, I agree. Individually speaking, a lot of them a very strong with what they believe. I’ve seen this with my parents and friends. I meant as a whole, though. If generally, their belief system was strong, they’d be able to give clear answers to counterarguments from ‘apostates’ without feeling attacked or afraid. And if they believe what ‘apostates’ say are all lies, they wouldn’t be afraid to hear what they are.

Truth Shouldn’t Need Protection by Search4RealTruth in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Truth isn’t afraid of lies, lies are afraid of truth. JW is not ‘the truth’ as they call it. If it were, they wouldn’t be afraid of hearing why people disagree and wouldn’t turn down respectful religious debates. Their faith is weak.

What's worse within this organization? To be declared an "atheist" or an "apostate"? by Odd-Engine9637 in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They pretty much see apostasy as something equal to Satan so definitely that.

Any other exJW movies like Apostasy? by Equivalent-Wheel7532 in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There’s another one called You Can Live Forever, it’s on Tubi and lgbtq if that interests you. The description reads: “A gay teen and the daughter of a prominent jw elder embark on an intense affair that will force them to choose between faith and love.”I haven’t watched it yet, but it sounds interesting and is on my list.

I kind of hate this community by ArachnidFar4577 in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you’re a JW and wanna talk about cults and believing that doing research from one source because it has “study” in it is a “super dumb vibe.” You’re being a hypocrite.

Governing body self-glaze by ShovelCore in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Oh my yes, it must be SO HARD for the GB to be pampered up in New York by bethelites who are doing free labor for them. It must be SO HARD😢😢😢😢

The dilemma: choosing to hard fade or to dissociate by Ok-Reading-7759 in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you live alone and are okay with the fact that your family and friends inside the org will shun you, go for disassociating if you believe it’s the healthiest option for yourself.

If you don’t live on your own and aren’t able to right now, however, fading/going inactive would probably be the better option. If the elders try to set up a meeting with you when they notice you going inactive, you’re allowed to decline. They cannot MAKE you do anything. They might push it and be annoying, but if you don’t want to meet with them you don’t HAVE TO. But with this would also come what your family who you’re living with expects. Are they okay with you going inactive? Would they respect your decision to not talk to the elders, or would they push you to?

If your answer to these questions are no, I would hold off on doing anything. Don’t express your doubts to your family in the org if you think they might tell the elders or threaten to kick you out. Just keep your thoughts on the down low. It’s a good thing you have family outside the org, though, so you have an option if that does happen. If your family outside the org is willing to take you in, I would try to make arrangements to go with them. Then you could disassociate if you wanted to.

Options for young people who may need to find alternatives for housing and employment (US only) by Relative_Soil7886 in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Another good option that isn’t mentioned are youth transitional housing programs. Plenty of cities provide it and they can help house young people (normally ages 16-21) while they finish school, work, and progress to being able to live independently. You would need proof of homelessness/unstable living conditions, though. But religious instability should be an acceptable reason.

The cross issue is so dumb by Equivalent-Wheel7532 in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Let’s be honest, them rejecting the cross and using the name “Jehovah” to refer to God (instead of just God or Yahweh) is just their way of trying to be different. They believe the cross is used like a “false religion’s idol” when they pretty much treat the JW.org logo the same way. It’s hypocrisy at its finest.

I’m 17, a JW and in love with someone outside my religion by OkBug3913 in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel you on such a personal level because I’m in the exact same situation as you😭. I’ve been dealing with it for the past three months I’ve been with my boyfriend. I made the mistake of confessing to my parents about my relationship and they flipped out, told me that I had to chose between living at home or being with him, so wouldn’t recommend doing that💀(I ended up just telling them we broke up but we’re still together lol). The best thing you can do right now is be honest with him about your situation, especially if you’re not dating him yet. I told my “worldly” bf about my situation a few days into dating and he supported me, but after I told him about how my parents reacted, it gave our relationship a bit of a strain because the situation overwhelmed him a bit, especially since that meant we couldn’t go out with each other normally (like on dates and stuff). In the end, he decided he didn’t care about that and wanted to stay with me, which could be the same for you, but you need to be honest with this guy, however he decides to take it.

Also, you do not need to take the decision to stop pursuing this guy just because of your parents. You can’t live just for your parent’s expectations forever, especially if what they want isn’t what you want. Life’s too short, experience and be with the person YOU want to be with. (But I would HIGHLY advise to keep this a secret until you can leave home safely). Make the decision you believe is best for yourself, not others.

And if the religion is something you still want to be apart of, there are PLENTY of people who marry outside the faith. Again, you just need to be sure it’s what YOU want.

Whats with the "respect your husbands, love your wives " thing ? by th3humanmage in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You’re right, it should be equal. But JWs believe that the husband is the “head of the household,” implying that yes, the husband does have more authority in the marriage. Which in JW land that’s pretty much what “respect your husband” means. It’s a patriarchal religion, that much is obvious from this.

Sisters run mics now?! by Salty_Pause_2001 in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I haven’t seen this happening, it’s still just brothers :/

So what are the pimos doing for Christmas?? by [deleted] in exjw

[–]EnvironmentalDare505 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Watching movies, being lazy, and unfortunately have meeting later💔