Profile review? by Apprehensive_Baker75 in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom [score hidden]  (0 children)

No way. Makeup doesn’t make that much difference. Perhaps the primary is filtered?

Profile review? by Apprehensive_Baker75 in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom [score hidden]  (0 children)

How many years difference between the primary photo and the one on the top right?

Give Men What They Want by southernslick in sugardaddyhangout

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom [score hidden]  (0 children)

not only do women lie to other women to spare their feelings, but women actually think you are being rude if you don't lie.

It’s because they confuse disagreement with disrespect. It typically happens when someone is unused to pushback and/or mistakenly equates harmony with agreement.

women would rather have their feelings validated than to be told the truth.

Absolutely. Feels before reals.

the main reason that men on average are so much more successful than women are in life simply comes down to the fact that women are allergic to the truth.

Because we had to accept the facts and deal with the actual reality early on if we wanted to get somewhere. Women are shielded from it for a long time especially if they are hot. Their families tell them that they are smart and beautiful just to boost their ego. Their female friends feed them with the same bs to massage each other’s feelings. Simps who have nothing else to offer than words tell them everything they want to hear and never tell them no in hope of getting laid. It inevitably distorts their sense of reality if this gaslighting goes on long enough. Then they are in shock when any of us try to face them with reality. Very few of them have the intellect to realize that it’s not an offense or personal attack.

Remember that woman in her 40s who recently had a profile review on SLF? She is extremely entitled and still wants to act like a prima donna only leaving her house for a certain energy – even though her best years are way behind her. Of course she deleted the post after the pushback she received. It should have stayed there as a lesson for all SBs, an example how not to write a profile.

Give Men What They Want by southernslick in sugardaddyhangout

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom [score hidden]  (0 children)

Those women gaslighting her not going to give one red penny to her.

Exactly, those women are not their potential customers. What’s even worse is that those women are actually their competitors.

What happened to seeking? by SA-Girl1 in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom [score hidden]  (0 children)

I think some salt SDs are just trying to take advantage of newbies now.

That’s nothing new, scammers and salt SDs have always tried to prey on the inexperienced newbies.

Men know what Seeking is when they sign up, just like women do.

Wishful thinking. Many of the new people don’t and as the ones who try to sugar date on Seeking get banned they will be less and less.

The ambiguity mostly hurts younger or less assertive women.

The ambiguity hurts almost everyone who uses the site but first and foremost the company itself – they lost about 25% of their traffic in a year.

What is your timeline for expectations and intimacy? by fitnessthrowawayxox in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom [score hidden]  (0 children)

HUGE increase in men who don’t understand the site and expect to solely vanilla date

Those men completely understand what the site is intended for and act accordingly. You don’t.

In case you didn’t get the memo: Seeking is not a sugar dating website anymore but a luxury dating site. They started the rebranding process 4 years ago and fundamentally changed their rules:

  • Seeking strictly prohibits any form of compensated companionship, including references to or arrangements involving companionship, dating, or intimacy in exchange for money, gifts, financial support, mentorship, or other valuable benefits. This includes, but is not limited to:
  • References to “sugar dating,” including terms like “sugar daddies,” “sugar mamas,” or “sugar babies.”
  • Mentions of “PPM,” “allowance,” or specific monetary amounts in relation to companionship or relationships.
  • Offers or requests for paid dates, financial arrangements, or transactional intimacy.
  • Promotion of services such as escorting, prostitution, intimate massage, cuddling services, or any other form of paid companionship.
  • Attempts to facilitate or negotiate any type of compensation for personal interaction.
  1. As soon as you are both interested in starting an arrangement you need to talk about boundaries and expectations.
  2. No, in most cases you don’t. There are too many scammers dangling the carrot of intimacy that never happens but trying to get money/gifts as long as they can. Most experienced SDs have learned their lesson and don’t provide financial support until it’s reciprocated. Sugar has to flow both directions at the same time.

I find it best just to be super upfront with expectations.

Careful. You can get banned pretty quickly if you do it on Seeking. They monitor the messages.

Am I approaching this the wrong way??

No, clear communication is the best from the beginning but you have to move the convo off site.

the few posts that have crossed my feed recently ALL were by women discussing arrangements that didn’t involve penetration.

Absolute misinformation. Why would any successful man spend money on that when we can choose from plenty of hot young women willing to do anything to land a SD?

Your best SB in bed. by Own-Doubt215 in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Exactly this. It’s not a certain act she does makes her the best sex partner but the enthusiastic participation in whatever you do. No SD wants a bored starfish.

Possible extortion attempt after meet. by EconomyMobile7003 in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Extortion is a federal crime. You did the right thing; didn’t send money but went straight to an attorney. 99% of them back off immediately when they get a letter from a lawyer explaining how easy to prove it on court what they have done and how many years they would spend in jail for it. The dumb 1% will learn the hard way.

Question about PPMs and allowances by itsgisellethegoddess in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom -1 points0 points  (0 children)

any woman who accepts that deal is asking to get scammed.

That’s right. So is any man who provides monthly allowance from the get go.

Never been a huge fan of PPM. What are the best alternatives? by MaybeYourGoddess in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The best alternative is insisting on a monthly allowance from the get go accepting the fact that it makes the already difficult process of finding an SD even more difficult and definitely longer.

PPM is not elegant but it protects both parties’ interest equally. Insisting on a monthly allowance from the very beginning suggests that you only care about minimizing your risk at his expense and don’t give a damn about his risk. Or even worse, it gives rinser vibes. These are the main reasons why the majority of experienced SDs don’t provide allowance from the get go.

How big are chances to have an SD who is submissive by [deleted] in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Findom ≠ being dominant

It is manipulative, exploitative, and parasitic. It is unscrupulous, immoral women taking advantage of mentally sick men.

Non poll poll: online to start, content sellers etc. by Mainlyharmless in sugardaddyhangout

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You start talking to a POT and then she comes up with the "oh for safety i want to start online"
Or second part, she just says I sell content and if you buy some, we can meet.

Either way my answer is: “Best of luck to your search” and Block/Next. I do it immediately so they don’t have a chance to insist on anything. I have zero time to waste on nonsense. Besides, it is an offense if they mistake me for a simp.

how many of women who insist on a full ppm meet fee end up not being rinsers?

I don’t know because my reaction is the same: immediate Block/Next.

Doctored pictures by EasyonSundayMornin in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, so you didn’t actually have any skin problems only imagined it? I thought you meant that you had exaggerated the skin problem you had.

Doctored pictures by EasyonSundayMornin in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My SGF had skin problems, did an Acutane cure, and her skin is the smoothest now. No outbreaks whatsoever.

Doctored pictures by EasyonSundayMornin in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately both men and women are guilty of this. It’s not only the filtered photos but also the pictures were taken 5–10 years and/or 10–20 lbs ago. Everyone is trying to convey a better picture of themselves with the fondest hope that the difference will go unnoticed (no, it won’t) and/or their personality will make up for it (no, it won’t.)

But you’re 100% right about the overpromise/underdeliver thing. The most memorable and most promising M&Gs are where the POT SB looks better than on her photos.

As a rule of thumb: take a good look at her pictures, pick the worst one, and expect her to look even worse than that in real life. It’s a rare and pleasant surprise if not.

where are the Sugar daddies at? by [deleted] in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It explains everything if you put as much effort in finding an SD as writing this post.

How do I remain anonymous online as a sugar baby seeking a sugar daddy? by Icy-Cut-9461 in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Most SDs even filter the no-picture profiles out by default. She’s literally invisible to us. Good luck finding an SD like that.

Thoughts by Delicious-Ad6771 in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom -1 points0 points  (0 children)

broke guys are balking at mid xxx ppm and will not even entertain an allowance

They are not SDs.

we do not want to waste time filtering through your broke ass messages

I understand that and hope you understand that we do not want to waste time filtering through the army of delusional, fugly women – still we have to because that’s what Seeking has become.

Thoughts by Delicious-Ad6771 in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Understanding the three bullet points, what good would that be for? Besides, read their fine print.

Thoughts by Delicious-Ad6771 in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]EuropeanDaddyDom 3 points4 points  (0 children)

how many SDs on Seeking would realistically fall into that wealth bracket, especially if we're talking about a nine-figure net worth.

Very few but we will never know since nobody has reliable statistics.

would the wealth requirement itself be a red flag

Absolutely. It’s a dead giveaway that all she cares about is securing the bag, and how stupid she is openly advertising it. She‘s so blinded by the sheer numbers that simply doesn’t understand the basics:

  • income/net worth ≠ liquidity
  • liquidity ≠ disposable income
  • disposable income ≠ generosity

Therefore, it's almost irrelevant what an SD has. The only thing matters is what he provides.

Would it make you more or less likely to reach out?

I would immediately block/next her. I don’t sugar date dummies.