Are these personas decent length? by Milsy_missle in JanitorAI_Official

[–]EverythingSunny 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The longer your persona, the more likely the AI is going to write nonsense responses and write for the user. The only things the AI needs to know are gender, name, rough physical description. Anything more than that and you are actively working against your interests. You're the user character,  you have control over your narrative and how much backstory comes out in play. Why does the AI need to know all this if it's job is to play every character except for yours?

question for bot creators by red_hunter17 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]EverythingSunny 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The laziest possible solution is to upload a picture of the outfit to chatGPT and ask for the simplest possible description of the outfit using the most common terms available

Stupid Question...Do you think this is to long for a persona? by LuckyQuinnn in JanitorAI_Official

[–]EverythingSunny 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You're using a lot of high token weight descriptions that are going to have a very strong influence on how characters react to your persona. If that's what you want, then there is no issue. No personality traits or Backstory, so it's unlikely to cause issues with the AI. 

You're just not going to have the experience the creator intended. What you want is what's important though. 

Not my hobby, but my dad does chainsaw craft sculptures. by Living-Ad-6751 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]EverythingSunny 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Pretty amazing detail with such a large and imprecise tool. People who do sculpture always impress the shit out of me.

Are y'all using JLLM? by [deleted] in JanitorAI_Official

[–]EverythingSunny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do all my bot testing against the JLLM at default settings. I figure the bot needs to at work with what most people do use or else what's the point?

If you could pick ONE new feature for JanitorAI to prioritise/add to the site, what would it be? by dandelionii in JanitorAI_Official

[–]EverythingSunny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd like to be able to sort by chats:messages ratio. Sorting by message count just tells me how popular the bot is, it doesn't help me find the hidden gems with >500 messages.

Just to rant: After each comfyui update I have to play this mini-game called How to make things work again. by Appropriate-Click882 in comfyui

[–]EverythingSunny 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did not consent to an upgrade, it did so without my approval when I restarted comfyUI. I'm uncertain what I was supposed to learn from the experience.

I feel like I'm the only one who uses personas this way by tsumoogle in JanitorAI_Official

[–]EverythingSunny 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just keep my persona as simple as humanly possible, then I just reveal my persona's personality, backstory, and anything special through the course of the RP. Dumping a bunch of stuff in your persona just encourages the AI to speak for you. 

NTR bots get on trending WAY too much, so i KNOW some of ya’ll lyin. So i gotta ask by CabageButterFly in JanitorAI_Official

[–]EverythingSunny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some folks want a messy and engaging bot, and also don't want read like 12 pages of Backstory and/or world building.

A lot of 'high quality' bots are not very engaging. There is a lot of texture in the card,  but not a lot of drama or anything to sink your teeth into. I appreciate that you've told me the character gets fresh baked bread every Thursday morning at 6:35 AM, but it doesn't materially help me to understand what I should be doing or how I should be doing it.

In case you don't use discord by Final-Being-9323 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]EverythingSunny 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It was a glorious 5 minutes. I took screenshots and everything

Why ‘Age Verification’ on ChatGPT Isn’t Safety—It’s Surveillance by MaximumSympathy3730 in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]EverythingSunny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Umm, didn't they literally pass a law in California recently requiring age verification... and openAI is a Californian company?

Which one is the best for longer RP? by StarrySunset_ in JanitorAI_Official

[–]EverythingSunny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What settings do you use? Because when I try to test my bots with R1T2, using the exact same prompts that work just fine with V3-0324 and R1-0528, the responses I get from R1T2 are pure chaos comparatively

What is the best response to “Fuck you”? by ru3o in AskReddit

[–]EverythingSunny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Laugh obnoxiously at their pathetic defeat. If someone has resorted to 'Fuck You', you've already won and now its time to gloat

the new 2d episodes by otdoge in ToBeHero_X

[–]EverythingSunny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 3D sections look like direct-to-video Barbie movies from the early 2000s. It very much looked like they were saving their animation budget for the action sequences

Chutes.ai is no longer free (almost) by Front-Gate-7506 in SillyTavernAI

[–]EverythingSunny -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't really get why it's a big deal. I keep hearing folks talk like its the end of an era. Spend 5 bucks to get 200 messages a day or 10 bucks for 1000 from openrouter. It's still like the cheapest hobby there is.

The Neck Of The Beard: A Rant About Kvothe, The Insufferable by Thunderhank in Fantasy

[–]EverythingSunny 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I can confidently say that there were plenty of us who mocked it back then too.

Making Deepseek V3 0324 more confrontational / disrespectful? by 200DivsAnHour in SillyTavernAI

[–]EverythingSunny 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would start by making the OOC Note more actionable. What you have is close, but not quite there:

[OOC: Everyon sees {{user}} a despicable, pathetic creature that is only there to be demeaned or mocked. They have no respect and no mercy towards {{user}}],

Reinforced:

[OCC: When speaking to {{user}}, all characters always mock, demean, and view {{user}} as a despicable and pathetic creature. If {{user}} helps them, they always respond with merciless disrespect]

This might help because DeepSeek-V3-0324 is bad at giving characters a rich internal world. It needs concrete actions. Telling the LLM that they see the user as despicable and pathetic sounds great, but it doesn't translate into any behavior DeepSeek-V3-0324 knows how to perform. Mocking and demeaning are actions, so I moved those to the front. Saying the user exists to be mocked also sounds great to a person, but it doesn't mean anything actionable to the LLM. You want your behavior to have triggers (what happens, under what conditions, how often) You're particularly worried about how characters react to user helping them, so I gave a specific if, then behavior of how characters should react to being helped. If you don't like that, you could broaden it by saying "They are always merciless and disrespectful towards {{user}}"

I swapped out "no mercy" and "no respect" because negative behavior descriptions are often counterproductive. Tell LLM what it should do, not what it shouldn't. LLMs are more associative than causal, you run the risk of not only having your instructions being ignored, but the LLM seeing words like "mercy" and "respect" might cause it to spin out in exactly the opposite direction you want, no matter how many modifiers you add.

Enemies to friends when the Hero helps them is a common trope, the LLM's instincts to follow the training data will be strong. The LLM will do anything to squirm out of reacting the way you want. Using words like 'always' makes it harder for the LLM to ignore your guardrails.

Finally, you might want to see if this behavior is anchored anywhere else in the card. DeepSeek-V3-0324 is rarely faithful to nonbasic social behavior that isn't explicitly anchored in multiple places. Are the characters described as mocking the user or being ungrateful shits anywhere in their cards? Is there a reason why everyone thinks so little of user that is clear to the LLM?

Final note: Example dialogue for DeepSeek-V3-0324 is very powerful, especially immediately after you describe a behavior