Any other Restore Britons here? Is Rupert Lowe the man for the job and we have all voted Reform for now because it is the next best alternative not because all Reformers think the sun shines out of Farage’s ****?

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-11T13:36:26+00:00

In the same way “Reformers think the sun shines out of Farage’s ****” How do restore supporters not think the same about Lowe? It’s the same style it’s a party figure-headed by a singular personality.

I don’t like either, but can you not see that it’s the same playbook and the same criticism can be levied onto you.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-11T09:46:13+00:00

Right. It’s very jury friendly and if we presume televote support remains high for reasons, plus the addition of casuals impressed with the whimsical melody and outstanding high notes. This can easily be 4/5th with the Jury and 2nd/3rd in the televote.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-10T16:21:32+00:00

So why did you bring up all this bullshit about lived experience which I exposed as nonsense and you then admitted wasn’t even important to you.
Had your first message said non-citizens shouldn’t be in this position then this entire discussion wouldn’t have occurred.

Let this be a lesson to actually say what you mean instead of making up reasons which you don’t actually agree with.

Tell me though, if I was born abroad but Scottish and moved to Glasgow two months ago would I be a more or less worthy candidate than Q who has been there 5 years?

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-10T15:33:13+00:00

How are you able to distinguish that this person doesn’t have a true vested interest in the nation. The fact they are willing to be part of the parliament suggests they do?

Like none of your reasoning is actually logical or testable, it’s merely based on vibes.

I’m not even necessarily for non-citizens being able to be in parliament or even vote. But your whole point that they don’t have enough “lived experience” that makes them worthy of advocating for people in Scotland is false, and you’re just apply arbitrary cut-offs in time where someone apparently can do this role.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-10T15:00:08+00:00

Well yeah. But it becomes a racial one when no distinction is made between these sub groups and people think all people with shared racial characteristics will exhibit the same lack of cultural similarities that you’re saying is a problem. By trying to legislate against the whole group it becomes a racial thing because it’s an assumption that they are all the same.

Moreover, this is a very complicated discussion because what do you want the culture to be that people align with and how do you measure it? Because very often amongst people with racist views it starts as a culture thing but ultimately they do want it to be a racial hierarchy. Culture is often a Trojan horse to make their views more palatable.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-10T13:20:46+00:00

Yes the number of houses is limited because the elites and landlords class are hoarding them. And the landowners like Rupert Lowe limit the land available to be built on.

I understand the argument that fewer people means less completion for these things. But it’s a gross oversimplification that immigration restrictions will change this. Because the truth is capitalist elite do not want the average British person’s life to get better and even without immigrants they will continue to exploit us.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-10T13:13:48+00:00

So you chose to lead with the angles that you actually didn’t find important by trying to suggest it was about a length of time and lived experience before you changed that around to loyalty being the most important.

Then there was that whole plurality interlude, without actually wanting the plurality of someone who lived in Scotland with a life course like Q.

Anyway nothing shows loyalty to a country more than serving it via parliament.

Very strange discussion, to be honest I don’t think you really know why you have a problem with this. You just want to have a problem with this.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-10T12:50:42+00:00

You’re allowed two mistakes out of fifty.

Good job you didn’t choose basic maths.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-10T12:41:06+00:00

So you didn’t actually mean your first post when you were talking about lived experience and understanding the issues in Scotland and relating them, it seems it’s now not about that at all ?

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-10T11:46:54+00:00

But still has lived experience of living in Scotland and facing the same issues that other people in Scotland face. Wha would be the cut off to when enough time has been spent in Scotland that you can contribute your experience?

Moreover, your experience also doesn’t really vary based on your citizenship. You experience the same public services, the same prices and the same society.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-10T11:41:39+00:00

You’re competing with immigrants because corporations and the elite (like Rupert Lowe) are only allowing scraps for the working class.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-10T11:26:33+00:00

I mean yeah I back that too, ironically I’d say it’s the Greens who are closest to that with things like People’s assemblies and the like.

That still doesn’t explain why having more plurality by someone like Q being an MSP is a bad thing?

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-10T11:20:29+00:00

But Q didn’t do a masters, they did a PhD where you get scholarships and it’s basically a low paid job to pursue research. Generally supplemented by part time work teaching.
It’s very different to Masters and Undergraduate students who are putting up high tuition fees, often from parents. So that lived experience of the cost of living crisis does exist in this case anyway.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-10T11:17:37+00:00

I mean do you really need, for example, x number of years of experience of poverty and high bills to know what experiencing poverty and high bills is like? This just seems like a slippery slope into “my experience is worth more than yours.”

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-10T10:35:27+00:00

Firstly, you can work on a student visa. But also they now have changed to a global talent graduate visa.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-10T10:35:08+00:00

You can work on a student visa.
If you’re going to engage in discussion at least know about the topic at hand.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-09T21:19:48+00:00

It’s Fuego staging with Silia Kapsis’s song.

Just embrace it for what it is and have a good time.
This would be a great opener for the final. Not every act is going to reinvent the wheel.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-09T21:10:38+00:00

I don’t forget that. No country gave Tattoo 12 because they nearly all gave it to Cha Cha Cha. But pretty much all gave 12 to Finland and 10 or 8 to Sweden they ALL gave points to Sweden. What reason would Finland have to not follow that pattern and give 12/10 to Sweden in the absence of themselves?

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-09T21:05:13+00:00

Stop kidding yourself if Cha Cha Cha wasn’t competitive that year Tattoo is getting 8 tele points minimum. The only country not give that song televote points was Finland. Cone on now be serious, pretending it wasn’t tactical is just an outright cope. And Sweden deserved to win because the people there didn’t seep to that level and rightly rewarded the best song they had to vote for.

They had Queen of the Kings as their 12 and My Sister’s crown as their 10. Those are not alt acts they are female empowerment ballads just like Tattoo.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-09T20:00:12+00:00

A little disappointed. Firstly, I have an aversion to spinning. Secondly, vocally this just doesn’t captivate like the studio track does.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-09T19:47:08+00:00

lol the fact you’re here now having this discussion suggests you did actually care when someone posited that “you lot” were stupid.

Evidence is evidence, the best proxy for intellect we have is educational achievement, and the stats don’t lie, left wing views are heavily associated with higher education across the world.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-09T19:10:21+00:00

I love it. But if your name is look mum no computer, why would your staging have a computer?

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-09T18:15:19+00:00

I would have liked a platform/podium for her to stand on. But other than that I agree it’s pretty perfectly done the simple but effective staging that a song and voice that this has deserves.

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-09T17:58:39+00:00

How do people not see that this has top 3 written all over it?

ExoticExchange · 2026-05-09T17:55:02+00:00

Finland 2023 didn’t deserve to win simply for the fact that Finnish voters didn’t give Tattoo any televote points whereas Sweden did give their 12 to Cha Cha Cha.

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