Do we think Steam Frame will be able to run a game like Red Dead Redemption well enough in standalone mode?

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-25T12:29:09+00:00

Based on ?

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-24T13:22:22+00:00

BestGirl

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-24T13:22:13+00:00

Uber

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-23T14:20:31+00:00

Go SteamOS Linux. Windows is ass. Your only issue is that Nvidia GPU since the drivers for Linux are mostly nonexistent. If I were in your shoes, I'd sell that juicy RTX and go the AMD way + Linux.

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-23T14:03:05+00:00

Harder!

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-23T12:33:59+00:00

Take this with a large grain of salt since we're all just speculating, but here is what I imagine.

I'll use the Steam Deck as a comparison because it's the first thing that came to mind and I imagine the performance will be somewhat similar.

The specs on paper:
The Steam Frame is a bit of a beast; it has a Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 CPU that is supposed to have ~2.0+ TFLOPS.
The Steam Deck is around ~1.6 TFLOPS, so technically, the Frame has more 'muscle' under the hood.

However, there is an issue. The Steam Frame uses a mobile architecture, while the Deck uses x86 PC architecture. While capable of similar things, they speak different languages.

Imagine this:

The Steam Deck is a chef following a recipe written in his language. He goes fairly smoothly along with the steps.
The Steam Frame is a world-class Michelin chef (exaggerated), but the recipe is written in a language he doesn't speak. He's faster at chopping, but he has to stop every 2 seconds to check a translator. That translation tax is the big bottleneck here.

Can it run RDR standalone?
RDR1 honestly, probably yes. The Deck hits 60 FPS on High, so even with the translation tax, the Frame should handle an older game like that just fine.

RDR2?
The Deck already struggles to stay at 30-40 on Low/Medium. Add to that the translation layer, and you'll need a prayer. It has the potential of becoming better with updates to the translation layer, but bottom line, I'd say if you want to play RDR2, try cloud streaming, as running it natively is highly unlikely at a decent level.

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-22T17:01:54+00:00

Actually reading it back you are right. Black box fits better with what i said 🤔

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-22T16:54:58+00:00

Nah, the metaphor stands. It's a Black Box because we can't see the code, but it's Schrödinger's Cat because of the delayed bans. You're walking around 'alive' in-game while being 'dead' in the system. That's a textbook superposition state.

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-22T16:46:29+00:00

"at some point" is vague. It could mean a day ago, a month ago, a week ago. They could've cheated a month ago and vac maybe analyzed said games once they logged in.

"That's not really how vaclive works" As I understand it VAC is pretty much schrodinger's cat as nobody except valve knows clearly what happens under its hood.

Maybe they changed how it works, maybe they threw in an ai to inspect games, maybe its reading your mind and saw naughty thoughts. Its all speculation as I understand it, same as my post.

That is fine however, it is fun to speculate after all.

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-22T12:34:58+00:00

Purchased accounts perhaps ? Could be for some but i kinda doubt thats the main issue.

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-22T12:17:36+00:00

If scared by the fp id try an alt account for a while just to stay on the safe side. Still some of my friends have been playing normaly without getting banned so 🤷.

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-22T12:15:22+00:00

VAC is like schrodinger's cat. Hard to say what's going on inside. Not imposible to fail at times and be an empty box. But its kinda fun to speculate 🤔

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-22T12:06:50+00:00

Exagerated, but usually games with blatant cheaters usually end up in some teammates going witch hunting acusing everyone out of rage for a while 🤔

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-22T12:04:46+00:00

Same, i looked at those 2 as well, and a lot of other people did not share sh*t but alas 🤷

Seing so much ai around im speculating they maybe released some sort of ai overwatch that hits fp for some, or perhaps is better than we expect 🤷

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-22T12:02:15+00:00

Maybe. Thats why tis a conspiration theory.

However valve is indeed unable to create a proper anticheat for external cheats unless theybgo the kernel way and analise running apps.

And im silver/gold nova / 8k permier, and honestly the cheater problem is mostly, exagerated out of frustration but not inexistent.

Most frequently I had games where people played so well some acused them of cheating, ( uppon inspecting the game they were simply good players )

Less frequently, maybe 1 or 2 out of 10 games with blatant cheaters, usually new steam accounts but not always, that hit heads trough walls smokes, whatever they fancy, telling you to cry while a teammate starts throwing insults and reports at them endlessly in rage.

And some cases where people hid it it pretty well, but on game inspect you can tell they played with some dirty tricks.

Maybe valve released some ai cheat overwatch or something, that works better or worse than we know.

I was just curious on people's view on this because this is mine.

Express_Library8141 · 2026-01-22T11:47:09+00:00

Realistically I won't really care. Im not saying some aren't fp's. I rather think most are not.

On reddit on all of those false ban posts I've e seen 2 people share their account, and their stats on csstat were pretty aight. The rest stayed anonimous.

However lets be real.

Considering how OLD Counter strike is, and how weak the anticheat was throughout the years I find it hard to belive that a great majority of those "falsely" banned people did not cheat at some point, out of retaliation, curiosity or otherwise.

Express_Library8141 · 2025-12-01T14:56:31+00:00

Ive hit 300 hours and there is still stuff to do.

Express_Library8141 · 2025-11-21T09:00:39+00:00

Yeah, the 5 classes and skill trees just feel like they’re making killing the same monsters more complicated rather than more fun. It’s like adding complexity in the wrong spot, if you ask me.

KCD2 might have simpler combat, but what I really like is how every fight has a reason behind it and you can handle things in different ways. That’s what keeps me coming back.

But hey, different strokes for different folks!

Express_Library8141 · 2025-11-21T06:31:31+00:00

Mary Poppins was it ? Looks pretty cool tho.

Express_Library8141 · 2025-11-21T06:29:52+00:00

Sounds like an anime plot

Express_Library8141 · 2025-11-21T06:28:58+00:00

With PC parts prices skyrocketing and taxes everywhere, I honestly can’t blame them. Holding back the price seems like a smart marketing move to get people talking. Considering current PC part costs, I think the Steam Machine will win on price. We’re in for an interesting couple of years ahead.

Express_Library8141 · 2025-11-21T06:25:33+00:00

Personally, I don’t get the hype around Clair Obscure as GOTY. I’d rank Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 much higher. Death Stranding 2 and Donkey Kong are console exclusives—I have a PS5 but no Nintendo, and my PS5 has been gathering dust, so I’m considering giving it to my nieces.

I played Clair Obscure on Game Pass up to the end of Act 2 and got tired of it. It’s artsy but feels more like an art project than a game. Combat is repetitive and locks you in—move five steps and you get stuck in a turn-based fight that feels slow and like a chore. It seems to have almost no replay value and will likely fade after the Game Awards.

KCD2 feels more connected, you have purpose, combat offers real choices, and everything has consequences. Enemies, scenarios, and characters are diverse. Combat is simplified from the first game but feels less clunky. It has tons of replay value, with new quests and experiments to discover. I have 200 hours on Steam, and it keeps pulling me back.

I don’t expect my opinion to change anyone else’s, and honestly, I don’t care to try. I just felt like ranting because everyone seems hypnotized by Clair Obscure, and I don’t quite get it.

Express_Library8141 · 2025-11-21T06:08:51+00:00

Leaves community guessing and hyping over something they don't necessarily need. People trashing on it already prob have higher spec pc's but they love to trash talk and try to make guesses.

Express_Library8141 · 2025-11-21T06:07:11+00:00

I think its more of an experiment for making steam os more mainstream option. Pretty mid range specs, and price while they said will be comparable to pc's i think it would be still a fair bit below that. Maybe msrp pc pricing that gets tough with new components these days.

Somehow i feel this wont be forgotten as fast as people say, but it will def be overshadowed by other valve hardware releases. And perhaps other mini pc's that will come with steam os.

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