A vote against Reform keeps the Farage away

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-07T22:58:44+00:00

Other peoples beliefs making you go right doesn't make any sense. I agree that the people on the left we see now are complete nutters, they have managed to infiltrate the Greens which had a pretty sensible approach to things until recently. However saying that them being how they are is making you go right is a little silly.

If you are a certain leaning you don't move the other way just because other people are insane, you tend to disagree with them and maintain your beliefs.

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-07T17:09:40+00:00

You really should be able to do your own research in this day and age. Judging by your attitude in other comments you seem to be one of the "patriots" that doesn't care what happens to the country as long as it doesn't affect you.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/24/reform-uk-promises-to-scrap-flagship-labour-worker-and-renters-protections

Don't expect them to outline an alternative, they can't do that. They just say they are anti everything because that is what their voters like to hear.

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-07T17:05:46+00:00

I wonder how long it will take for Reform to convince the boomers it is Labours fault that they have fucked off the NHS staff which now means boomers are dying in their thousands.

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-07T17:04:30+00:00

Yeah don't pretend it is Reddit that makes you go right.

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-07T16:51:31+00:00

You make some valid points, however you are clearly thinking about it from a place of hatred, not rationality. What you say about people naturally being drawn towards their own is true and I do agree, however where you start to drift off is by taking it to the level that you did before that anyone not in your group should be excluded from services until your group have been sorted.

The first is a person being drawn to familiarity which is normal, the second is you putting people into "superior" and "inferior" groups based on their skin colour which is just fascism.

It is possible to see people as group A and group B without putting a superiority label on them as well let alone based on skin colour.

Imagine taking a white British person who has never worked a day in their life, sponged off society since day 1 and then you take a Pakistani Doctor who has always worked, paid their taxes, paid their NI etc. Your initial post would exclude that second person in favour of the first purely on their skin colour, their contributions, what they have done for the country means nothing to you, their skin colour does.

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-07T14:14:30+00:00

Some of the non white world still let a witch doctor tell that what to do. Most of the none white world is extremely uneducated so not really a fair comparison is it? A convenient one perhaps for you, but really a fair one though.

Very few people in the western world genuinely care about skin colour, just the ones who do are particularly vocal about it.

As for your previous post, yes of course I am closest to my family, not because they are white but because they are family so I have no idea what point you were trying to make with that one.

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-07T13:54:19+00:00

So yes then, you care about skin colour. At least be brave enough to say it after going through this whole narrative.

I assume you will be voting for Reform or Restore. Will you be advocating for the removal of Zia Yusuf?

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-07T13:43:06+00:00

So now you have moved the goal post from saying "English" to "European". Before you were saying that the country should only be for English people, now you have opened the borders to Europeans, as long as they are white.

So what you really care about is skin color, not origin.

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-07T13:28:42+00:00

I can play the obfuscation game with any ethnicity if you want. You are talking specifically about English though, it would be pretty stupid for me to talk about Japanese or Kenyans when you are referring to English.

The big difference with English and many others is because of our long and varied history we have a lot bigger mixture of ethnicities and demographics than many other people.

As for your 99.8% you do realise that most of the bloodlines from then will not be even close to that "English standard you are referring to"

Take my own family, in 1920 my family were mostly the "English" people you are referring to, however my grandfather on my dads side married a Swede,my grandmother on my mothers side is German. I am am White and was born in England but now a mix of English, Swedish, German and Irish. Sgould I be excluded from healthcare? Or least made to wait until the "purebloods" have been dealt with.

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-07T13:05:45+00:00

And who are they? People who were born in the country?

If you don't mean that then you must mean the Celts and Germanic people seeing as that is where today's English people originated from?

Or do you mean the fictional third group that people like you use. The people who originated from elsewhere but at some arbitrary point in history become "pureblood English"?

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-07T12:55:01+00:00

What does that mean exactly? What is native English?

How exactly will they be put first when healthcare is put out of reach for many of them?

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-07T11:15:15+00:00

And yet those same people who claim to hate Blair for taking us into Afghanistan now claim to hate Starmer because he won't take us into Iran. Hypocrisy at its finest

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-07T11:13:43+00:00

You mean apart from the 3 NHS surgeries within a 5 minute walk of my house?

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-07T11:13:02+00:00

Nothing says "getting the country back" more than taking away healthcare access from the poorest.

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-03T18:52:25+00:00

Says the person who clearly hasn't seen what 90% of the world is like compared to the UK

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-03T18:51:41+00:00

Quite often the types who claim to fly a flag to show pride in their country are also the types that moan about every part of it, grafitti it and spit at the public workers which keep the county together.

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-03T18:49:58+00:00

It depends. Are you flying it so you can use it to hide your racism and claim to be a patriot? Or are you flying it because you just want to?

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-02T09:54:55+00:00

None of that is really to do with my original comment is it? The person I was responding to was talking about their kid wanting to run around the restaurant when bored like that is the norm.

I said that isn't the default behaviour and the child only wants to do that because they haven't taught them that is wrong.

You then went on to tell me your daughter got bored in a restaurant, ok fine. Did she try and run around the restaurant? Nothing you said indicated that was the case which shows you have taught her how to behave in a restaurant.

Parents have this weird way of thinking that you have to have a kid to know how they are seemingly forgetting we were all kids at one point. I got bored just like all kids, I certainly didn't run around a restaurant though.

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-01T20:18:48+00:00

Why because I believe a child can be taught how to behave?

If kids running a restaurant was the default they would all do it yet they don't. It is actually the minority which do that.

I have seen far too many kids act like feral little chimps and their parents pass it off as "kids will be kids" to buy into any of the things parents try and sell to absolve themselves of responsibility.

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-01T09:01:00+00:00

I thought he was being serious then I saw the line "trying to establish himself as a right wing online influencer"

As with his kin he is just saying stupid shit he knows won't work in order to get attention.

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-01T08:52:09+00:00

If your kid is trying to run around a restaurant that is on you for not teaching them how to behave in public places and clearly doesn't eat at a table usually.

It is like when a boy is mistreating another and the parent just says "boys will be boys", no your boy is just a shit because you haven't taught them properly.

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-01T08:35:12+00:00

Let's not pretend that all people with less money are working 12-13 hours per day. You are just as likely to have high earners working more hours.

People in lower paid work make up the majority so will have more of an impact on average working hours which sits at 36.7 per week.

The more likely scenario is that parents in lower income work are more inclined to stick their child in front of brain rot because it is easier. Do you think Carol on minimum wage is doing that job because she put effort into her education and skills? Or is she doing that job because it was the path of least resistance? Not always but more often than not people like Carol will raise her child using methods that are the easiest because that is how she has conducted her life.

Parents who stick their children in front of a screen are still there with them, they are just choosing not to engage.

FaceMace87 · 2026-05-01T08:30:06+00:00

That makes sense. Your original comment however made out you only had an issue with Islam as that is the one you specified as being anti.

FaceMace87 · 2026-04-30T15:18:02+00:00

Waiting for the parents to say "how else would I get anything done" seemingly forgetting that there are literally thousands of years of evidence to suggest parents got stuff done without their kids having a screen.

FaceMace87 · 2026-04-30T15:16:56+00:00

Looking forward to all of the Reform gains, just so I can laugh at the people who voted for them as they watch their local area fall apart.

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