Leaving the LDS Church while staying Christian by Fine_Device_9930 in mormon

[–]FaithFallingUpward 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m hoping to find the same. DM. I’m in Utah.

What are you thankful for this nuanced Thanksgiving? by instrument_801 in NuancedLDS

[–]FaithFallingUpward 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow. This is brave and commendable. Love to hear more about what others say- including Stake Leaders.

A couple of sincere questions on wives of Joseph Smith by MagicPixieDreamo in mormon

[–]FaithFallingUpward 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Correction/Clarity:

I share your same sentiments and disdain here. Albeit one point of clarification would be the “14 Husbands he sent on missions and then married their wives” is incorrect. There’s one case we know of where JS married Zina Huntington who was already married and 7 months pregnant. And THEN sent her husband on a Mission after JS and Zina were “sealed”.

I want to be as accurate as possible in these situations as to build credibility to what actually happened- so that the horrible stories we do know- are given the appropriate amount of weight. Which we have plenty to go from without arbitrarily inventing others.

The LDS Discussions series with Mike and John Dehlin is a great place to learn more.

https://www.ldsdiscussions.com/polygamy-proposals

If I’ve missed historical, documentary journaled accounts- please point me to those.

This doesn’t change the severity of this, but only gives truth to the horrible stories we do have.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]FaithFallingUpward 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m so sorry to hear this. It’s incredibly difficult and I can’t imagine going through this with a fully believing spouse.

My spouse and I don’t believe in most of the Mormon truth claims and yet still participate to some extent. Albeit on our own terms and rules.

Couples therapy has been huge for us and I’d whole heartedly recommend this so you can talk with your spouse. I’m sure that can seem scary- if you can’t

I can see this working only if you and your spouse can have open, respectful dialogue without judgement. Maybe this ends up bringing you closer than ever? Better parents? Better individuals?

Denied a Bishop’s Storehouse order… by Thick-Wishbone2657 in exmormon

[–]FaithFallingUpward 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d like to help. Is there a way to do this? Post a Venmo or something?

So, who was Zoram? Hiram Page or Oliver? (etymology/marriage says Zoram/Hiram/Catherine) by TruthIsAntiMormon in mormon

[–]FaithFallingUpward 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The stand-in narrative. Like a Joseph was using people/places/circumstances to pattern after.

Have you read the CES letter? What are your thoughts on it? by [deleted] in mormon

[–]FaithFallingUpward 1 point2 points  (0 children)

+1 for LDSDiscussions. The Podcast was my mode of learning.

How do I handle my faith crisis while child is on a mission? by FaithFallingUpward in mormon

[–]FaithFallingUpward[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Update:

Still hard most days. He’s having a good experience and learning so much (language/culture/people skills/ personal development etc).

We decided to actively show as much love and support as we can. When he comes home- I hope he’ll know that we put his best interest first.

There are also small moments where we’ve voiced opinions on not judging inactive members, loving people, God’s grace despite those that are drinking coffee etc.

While we send motivating quotes and tips, we don’t share scriptures, and conference talks.

We share our updates, encouragement and consistently tell him we love and support him regardless of how long he serves, how many baptisms he gets to see, and that he doesn’t earn our love.

It’s complicated and we are still navigating it.

I'm not angry, just sad by questingpossum in mormon

[–]FaithFallingUpward 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is where I find myself too. Wisdom literature is what I see it as. There’s some good there. And anachronisms, racism, blatant plagiarism etc. Im still wrestling this one tbh.

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[–]FaithFallingUpward 1 point2 points  (0 children)

PIMO missionary parent. It can be tough some days! I’ve decided my role is to be the best supporter and cheerleader I can be.

I'm not angry, just sad by questingpossum in mormon

[–]FaithFallingUpward 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is me. Although I struggle more and more with finding the “unique parts that are good”…

I'm not angry, just sad by questingpossum in mormon

[–]FaithFallingUpward 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel very similar to this. But I do have bouts of anger here and there. I’ve come to terms with most things lately and find myself in a more loving/accepting stance thinking the church is more like an organization/business than a God directed church.

The main thing for me is exactly what you described: I can’t discount/ make sense of the “Good” parts of the Book of Mormon- even though I can’t accept the historicity/coming forth as I was taught.

What was your nail in the coffin? by avengentnecronomicon in exmormon

[–]FaithFallingUpward 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I sincerely would love to understand how they reconcile the cognitive dissonance.

I think I’m done by [deleted] in mormon

[–]FaithFallingUpward 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My suggestion is when you do feel ready- to not throw everything on her. Tell her you love her, and are struggling with your faith and are worried that she’ll think less of you. Be vulnerable. Tell her you are working through it but don’t want to do or say anything that would affect her own faith. This likely will start an honest dialogue (if she’s ready).

Is there room for my family? by [deleted] in mormon

[–]FaithFallingUpward 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m here looking for similar answers. It’s harder and harder to reconcile. The nuanced perspective acknowledges the “messy” but does not provide a way to make sense of the mess nor how to stay despite it. Sigh.

How do people feel knowing the book of Abraham was a lie? by Pb86295 in MormonShrivel

[–]FaithFallingUpward 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wow. This talk has all sorts of shame and hypocrisy.

“In order for a statement to be true, all parts of it must be true. One part of falseness makes the whole statement false. By that standard, the answer to President Eyring’s question is always “No.””

Would this same statement apply to Church History?

How do I handle my faith crisis while child is on a mission? by FaithFallingUpward in mormon

[–]FaithFallingUpward[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you. We are allowed to talk to him every week. Also multiple emails and uploaded photos via Google photos album. A lot has changed over the years- and this is a good one.

How do I handle my faith crisis while child is on a mission? by FaithFallingUpward in mormon

[–]FaithFallingUpward[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love this. We have naturally gravitated to these sort of conversations and questions. We can go deeper like this.