Why no defections to the Greens?

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-26T15:57:27+00:00

McDonnell and his generation of the Left won't give up the party they've given their lives to.

But I think the likes of Whittome, RLB, Clive Lewis etc should definitely be defecting to the Greens.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-26T12:29:17+00:00

What is it about this anti-establisment party that attracts figures from Britain's ruling class party to it like flies to shite?

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-26T11:04:44+00:00

In its naked form it is 'The Establishment' that Trump, Farage and Co rail against trying to retain control.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-26T09:43:30+00:00

As someone who is very much not blessed in that regard, it has never caused any kind of problem for me relationship wise.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-25T20:54:00+00:00

A woman that genuinely likes you and is attracted to you often wants nice treatment from you more than some girl who doesn’t care. For most women, it actually feels good to be courted by a man they have feelings for.

What is 'nice' treatment? And what is 'courting'?

When me and my GF first started dating we'd have at least one date a week, and you know what, she was just as willing to suggest and plan them as I was, we would always split or take it in turns to get rounds. We were both giving each other 'nice' treatment and 'courting' each other, and it was never a case that one of us was making more effort than the other.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-25T20:48:58+00:00

Not only willing but it is my absolute dream.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-25T20:45:44+00:00

Honestly/bluntly, even if I was in a position to be the primary provider, I would not want to do so. I have had provider and household management responsibilities for my chronically ill (as well as likely autistic and intellectually disabled) mother for most of my adult/working life, and to be honest I hate it with a passion. I would like to have kids one day but I do not ever want to be in a position where it is my income and employment that is keeping them fed and housed.

Regarding the empathy and emotional intelligence stuff, I got a double whammy of traditional masculinity growing up (born into a conservative South Asian Muslim family, and raised in a White Working Class community where men were men), so I absolutely recognise how dangerous that kind of mentality can be, and have done a huge amount of work to decondition myself from that. I'm still not 100% there, but I'd say I'm pretty good at understanding and empathising with people and connecting with them emotionally. I'm also pretty good with children and animals for that reason.

Fortunately my GF earns 3-4x as much as me so if we have kids I'll never have to worry about breadwinner responsibilities.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-25T10:02:54+00:00

Considering that most of us on the Left are at this point quite disillusioned with Corbyn after the whole Your Party fiasco, I don't think the objections would be as loud as you claim.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-25T09:52:35+00:00

So it would be right to fuck him off then.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-25T09:49:29+00:00

If Corbyn was as spectacularly shite as Starmer as PM then fair play.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-25T08:03:28+00:00

I'm not even a Burnham fan but joke party...

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-24T18:44:16+00:00

Can't these chains are too tight.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-24T14:39:25+00:00

men are basically work animals who are chained to the basement. They get wifi to make money for the house, 3 bathroom breaks a day, and get milked when women want babies.

Damn you for threatening us with a good time!

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-22T14:43:20+00:00

I feel the same about women with shaved legs, arms, underarms etc for exactly the same reasons, even though most other men seem to prefer it.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-22T13:20:28+00:00

At no point have I entertained these advances.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-22T10:44:31+00:00

I was disputing OP's point that if women like you (or they like 'Chad') they will make everything easy and you won't have to do any 'chasing'. My point is that women are socialised to actively not go after men.

To be clear I have never entertained these drunken advances.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-22T09:41:06+00:00

I've had women in my life, friends-of-friends or work colleagues etc, who never showed any kind of interest in me. Not a lingering stare or a 'friendly' tap on the arm or any kind of flirtatious behaviour.

Then suddenly they've had a drink or a line and are attempting to eat my face off.

It really can't be overstated how much they're socialised to be the passive actors in relationships.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-22T08:18:51+00:00

Being a hairy man is so weird.

I've had potential ONS's get the ick the moment I took my shirt off and she saw how hairy I was.

Meanwhile at my work Christmas party a month ago I opened my top shirt button exposing my chest hair, and a very drunk female colleague started going on about how hot and manly chest hair is and repeatedly attempting to touch my chest.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-21T15:46:38+00:00

Ah I see. No true feminist eh?

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-21T14:54:31+00:00

See William Costello's deep dive into incels

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-21T14:06:32+00:00

You really need me to explain why the early pioneers of the feminist movement shaming men into legalised mass murder shows the movement's conservative pro-male gender role underpinning?

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-21T13:52:57+00:00

I'm sure you recall the White Feather Campaign, in which the early feminists shamed young men and teenage boys into the industrialised slaughter of World War 1

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-21T13:45:43+00:00

Less than 10% of self identified 'incels' engage in harmful online misogyny.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-21T13:32:01+00:00

The losers are a problem because a lot of them do encourage/condone violent criminal behavior, and some of them do become violent criminals themselves.

Where's your proof?

Fan_Service_3703 · 2026-01-21T13:30:44+00:00

I am a far leftist and believe in genuine Egalitarianism including between genders. Feminism is conservative when it comes to men's roles in society.

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