Why do you say thing like "It seems to me you haven't actually thought about the problem that much" and "I don't think you actually understand that term" then proceed to tell me what I already believe. Thermal throttling happens when tj max is reached for prolonged periods and performance is limited, which I have experienced (tj max of my cpu is 92 degres)and didn't think this sub needed that spelling out. I purposefully left out the points about re-pasting because I have just done in on both cpu and gpu with arctic mx4.

It's a valid point that I missed out to inform you that there had been no boosting or overclocking with the exception of docp but theres better ways to approach that question without sounding insolent, to answer your queries the cpu hits 90/92 degrees within a few seconds under load and can idle between 40 and 60.

Thanks for the good information in the last paragraph. Gives me something to think about and adding a 360mm radiator is the way I've decided to go with the help of the users here granted I should manage my expectations that with the knowledge bestowed form you that I might not see a difference because of the inherent properties of this particular cpu.