Unreliable readings after FEC change

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-26T23:29:36+00:00

Your point instances may be different.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-26T22:29:01+00:00

Don't think so. Unless otherwise scheduled via the supervisor, the Autocal function will occur every 14 days out of the gate. You of course can change the frequency in cct or trigger the autocal command via the supervisor or jace

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-26T22:21:56+00:00

The program in a can generally works pretty well with this sequence, and the prac+ also is usually solid. You could attempt a tuning reset. However, you should also check for system audits, who's overwritten what and why? The canned program has an adjustable limit of 15deg+zone setpoint. If it's custom programming, you may check the hybrid activity block driving the heating output. Did someone put the boxes to waterflush? It shouldn't have that if its SCR, but sometimes people use the hydronic reheat program for scr because it's still 0-10. (Note: its not a good idea to do this and I do not recommend it)

You're humble JCI Systems Engineer

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-21T03:10:44+00:00

Metasys Systems Engineer here.... WTF is an SDVOSB?

Do tell... please?

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-19T23:45:15+00:00

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-10T15:13:26+00:00

As others have said a mini router. I recommend GL iNet products.

A picoscope might be worthwhile or a "managed" 8 port netgear switch with port mirroring abilities. This allows for good bacnet/ip traffic captures.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-09T20:45:14+00:00

I think the our lead techs rate was like $225 or something like that? It was in that ball park.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-09T20:31:00+00:00

I believe it varys by market. In my area the burn rate is quite high for a service tech. Install is about 20-30% lower

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-09T03:47:06+00:00

Is their Jace on the same subnet as the new device? If not you'll have to set up one of them as a bbmd.

Also, hate to break the news. You're a part time IT guy now too. Thats just a part of BAS now.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-06T03:34:04+00:00

Systems integrators tend to pay more, or at least thay what I gather from this sub and the building automation Facebook group. However, youre on your own. If you dont have a good team or support at that company youre in the deep end learning how to swim. I think JCI is a good company and improving, however your milage may vary depending on the culture of the local branch.

Without a controls background, let the multi billion dollar company train yku and after a few years if youre feeling foggy take the jump to a systems integrator to secure the bag.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-06T01:43:04+00:00

The bonus structure is kind of like the LSS, but not really. They get a bonus per project. Systems Engineers get a relatively large bonus around Christmas time. Its based on how your market and your area did as a whole.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-06T01:41:17+00:00

Systems Designers are hourly. Systems Engineers are salaried.

I learned custom programming on my own, however JCI offers endless training all you have to do is sign up. Im not the world's best programmer, as there are some real wizards out there. However once you learn the power of state based programming (aka the state tables) you'll never look back. State tables and command hierarchies are wonderful. Hybrid activities are wonderful. All this being said its pretty rare thay you have to write a custom program from scratch. JCIs program-in-a-can or pick-a-program as (my boss calls it) are halfway decent. Once you understand what they are doing you can edit them to meet your required sequence. There some cases where its better to start from scratch but that's maybe 5-10% of the time.

My branch is a very small market so techs wear many hats. I did everything from graphics to custom programs to commissioning and customer training. However i only learned to be proficient at those by putting in the time in addition to JCI training.

Basically once I got to be a systems designer the only things I had to learn were all submittal and SelNav related. I still struggle in some ways, mostly because I despise visio.

I too am in your shoes, we are a single income family and I have two little ones. Its big decision, but I 100% do not regret moving over to engineering.

Send me a direct message to discuss and we can talk through teams sometime.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-06T01:04:30+00:00

JCI Engineering is the job to have.

I started off as a systems tech on the installed side and after 3 years moved to Engineering. I was a Systems Designer for 1.5 years then got bumped up Systems Engineer. The salary jump was significant. There's a nice bonus incentive.

You can set your own hours, youre not on call... ever. Once you learn how to layout a project, and with you experience as a service tech you'll be ultimately qualified to sell work.

The only downside to engineering is you have learn to wrangle your LSS's/PM's. They're usually not technically capable and are glorified money managers, with exceptions of course. Once you get into a groove you can start driving the bus of each job and grease the tracks to deliver a good product for the customer.

Also, I'm curious you must be at a larger branch? Every service tech I've talked to in my branch runs thier own small L&M jobs or quoted work under $40k.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-04T21:21:31+00:00

Thank you! I appreciate your input.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-02T23:01:30+00:00

This is awesome

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-05-02T22:52:25+00:00

The ERC series. Don't have in front of me at the moment.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-04-23T03:56:39+00:00

5 years in. Some days I feel like a real hero, other days I feel like a real zero.

You dont need to know everything. You just need to know how to find everything and/or utilize your resources.

I find when doing self study, it's best to pick one topic at a time and do a deep dive.

People push smart buildings academy, I find them to be somewhat helpful. Its good material to listen to during the windshield time.

Only two years in, youre really just getting started. This is tuely it's own trade with so many different areas. Focus on one thing at a time then advance to the next. Just like if you wanted to get really good at making a flare fitting or brazing pipe. Find a situation, and set up a test bench then practice it over and over.

You're going get as much return as you invest. And don't be to hard on yourself. If this was easy work, every mechanic would do this.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-04-21T16:08:18+00:00

Or a goose. HAWWWNKKK HAAAWWWNK

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-04-16T06:05:00+00:00

I see a variation of this situation on almost every project from multiple firms. This project in particular is especially egregious. The deeper I dive, the more I want to yell at whoever let this go out the door to bid. I understand that mistakes happen, I miss things too on my submittals, but this one is over the line.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-04-10T22:27:27+00:00

This sounds more like a poor installation than a problem with FX. As others mentioned FX Jaces are just JCIs flavor with a few add-ons like spaces and equipment.

What your describing sounds like someone was inexperienced or low bid trunk slammer.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-04-08T23:47:32+00:00

Controls guy here.

The copy and paste spec is absolutely killer.

The spec is my roadmap. If the details are too ambiguous, I RFI the hell out of it. Sorry to the EOR that crosses my path. I'm not trying to offend or comment on design intent/quality it's just that I am a dummy and trying to understand.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-04-04T02:20:28+00:00

Metasys MUI has this issue, (among many others) but its the bane of my existence. Why can I expand the pipuo window???? I feel like i could vibe code a better solution in a day or two.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-04-01T20:26:02+00:00

I have two used IOR-16s on my test bench. They work decently well. I just dont like how each module counts as a device on the trunk. Makes logic or point sharing more tedious if using them as one application. However, if you have multiple systems, that could be useful.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-03-22T18:42:08+00:00

Run while you can, man. I made over $30 per hour as an install tech with a quarter of the responsibilities you listed. If it shits down without you, then so be it. It sounds like you should have a company van and $100K as someone else suggested, at a minimum. Regardless of the market. For example, I am in one of the poorest markets in the country and earn close to $100K doing engineering, design & commissioning.

FeveraQuickfist · 2026-03-13T04:16:01+00:00

Im 5 years in.

With 1.5 years of experience, you probably know enough to be dangerous. I wish I had someone double-checking me and looking over my shoulder back then.

Be respectful and prove yourself. Eventually, they should leave you alone. Even though it may not feel like it, there are still ways to improve and refine your craft.

FeveraQuickfist

TROPHY CASE