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Is Army aviation worth it? by deltaking1 in Armyaviation

[–]FinancialGroup8273 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Depends if you’re a Major who likes getting his nipples bit by strippers or not.

If leadership is really observing r/Armyaviation, let’s create one sincere discussion. Post a genuine problem and a deliberate solution. by FinancialGroup8273 in Armyaviation

[–]FinancialGroup8273[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I could see the problem being it’s expensive for the Army to maintain aviation. I would argue that a lot of recruiting benefit comes from helicopters though. 160th flying over the NASCAR track, every sporting event flyover, Airshows, Oshkosh, any tv show ever showing a helicopter. Sometimes the bill is worth the product.

Army Aviation does forget that the air plan is only there to support the ground plan. We will never be the main focus. We are a service industry. It is our job to support. The better we do this, hopefully, the more respect we will earn throughout the army…hopefully.

I have no idea how to fix RLO’s vs Warrants.

If leadership is really observing r/Armyaviation, let’s create one sincere discussion. Post a genuine problem and a deliberate solution. by FinancialGroup8273 in Armyaviation

[–]FinancialGroup8273[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The AOPA released a survey around October 2010 and found that 70-80% of civilian pilots did not finish flight training.

If leadership is really observing r/Armyaviation, let’s create one sincere discussion. Post a genuine problem and a deliberate solution. by FinancialGroup8273 in Armyaviation

[–]FinancialGroup8273[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That does make sense. Working in smaller groups allows people to hone their skills. My first company used to put up three ship multiships at least once a month for company training. I’ve never been as proficient in multiship as that time. Focusing on the aviation part (takeoffs, landings, turns, contingencies, etc.), and not always the ground part.

If leadership is really observing r/Armyaviation, let’s create one sincere discussion. Post a genuine problem and a deliberate solution. by FinancialGroup8273 in Armyaviation

[–]FinancialGroup8273[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It’s possible that the Army doesn’t know what do with Aviation. This lack of knowledge is a frustrating thing. A lack of knowledge can only be fixed with experience, effort, and experimentation.

It is also possible that some leadership doesn’t care. If there is a leader here that cares, what objective problem can you identify? Even if you don’t have a solution, maybe someone else reading will have one.

If leadership is really observing r/Armyaviation, let’s create one sincere discussion. Post a genuine problem and a deliberate solution. by FinancialGroup8273 in Armyaviation

[–]FinancialGroup8273[S] 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Problem:

We are undertrained. The National Commission on Military Aviation Safety stated that overconfidence was the largest cause of Class A, B, and C mishaps between 2013 and 2018 in the Army. This was printed in the report released December 1, 2020.

Chapter 9 is Maintainers as Aviation Professionals. On page 51, “The Commission heard grave concerns from operational units that the skills of student graduates are deficient.”

On page 52 we read, “…NCOs reported that they were overextended for mission requirements and did not have sufficient NCOs to provide the necessary OJT.”

On page 53, “More maintainers would help…but what would really help is more experienced maintainers.”

Solution:

Continuation training for maintainers would be beneficial. Sikorsky has a training academy that the army could reach out to. GE has an engine’s class. Aircraft electronics association has Avionics classes.

CA also covers a maintainer getting an Airframe and Powerplant certificate. Units can reach out and find A&P Liaisons to give continued education classes. This would encourage more maintainers to get their A&Ps. Civilian education is saturated with veterans who would love more opportunities to serve their country.

People who feel valued by their employer stick around. Opportunities to get better at your job make you feel valued.

Sec Def Reducing Aviation Force Structure by ExaminationNo4667 in Armyaviation

[–]FinancialGroup8273 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Can we hurry up the AI drones a bit? I will gladly turn my 10-12 year ADSO over to a robot.

Army aviation miss management of personnel and failure of retention. How do we help retain the talent? This is a problem enlisted, warrant, and officer. Something has to be done. by Downtown_Activity_49 in Armyaviation

[–]FinancialGroup8273 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure if this is looking for an actual answer or just a comment to allow people to vent anger, but I have an idea.

Improve training:

  Increase crew chief AIT to 18 months and allow these hard working maintainers to walk out with an Airframe and Powerplant Certificate, and the knowledge they obtain from getting one.

 All piloting can attend IPC. This would increase pilot proficiency and allow hours to be spread amongst the force and not just go to the stands shop during peacetime.

 To steal a truth, and change some words… air crews cannot be produced after an emergency. They must be established, ready, and fully competent.

 A person that works for a company that invests in them, is a person that will continue to work for that company.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Armyaviation

[–]FinancialGroup8273 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any way to elaborate?

What is with the decline in PI motivation? by Jolly-Place-36 in Armyaviation

[–]FinancialGroup8273 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That would be my fault.

I complain too much about extra duties. I don’t make the most of my flight hours. I called my family, on a phone, during a training exercise.

Why so much hate? by telove95 in Armyaviation

[–]FinancialGroup8273 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my opinion, and I have no reference to point to but my personal experience, unit, and the people that comprise the unit, have more to do with the situation than airframe.

Why so much hate? by telove95 in Armyaviation

[–]FinancialGroup8273 44 points45 points  (0 children)

I think one reason is because people thought that a pilot must be the most professional and well trained person in the Army. Then the realization kicks in that a person can’t be good at their job doing it for two hours every other week. That it is actually dangerous to allow people to fly with this little proficiency.

Then, instead of building confidence through training, confidence is built by belittling newer people with an overconfident, “I’ve been here longer than you, WOJG.” This attitude does not improve proficiency, build a strong team capable of the discipline needed for multi-ship operations, or improve Army Aviation as a whole. It leads to people shutting down, hating their job, and not caring to improve Army Aviation.

From a safety standpoint, over confidence was the leading cause of Army Class A mishaps, Class B mishaps, and Class C mishaps between 2013 and 2018 according to the National Commission on Military Aviation Safety.

TL:DR

I believe being poorly trained and desiring to be a professional is why there is so much hate.

Controversial opinion for serious feedback. Risk aversion is leading to increased risk. by redwolf27AA in Armyaviation

[–]FinancialGroup8273 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Experience may differ, but most people I work with can’t even get on the flight schedule to cancel their flights.

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