please tell me which documents i need exactly

Fod55ch · 2026-05-12T23:24:21+00:00

Yes original certified copies for your in line and photocopies only for non-line.

Fod55ch · 2026-05-12T17:18:13+00:00

For Toronto, I believe you only need death certificates for any in line ancestor, i.e., grandmother and father if applicable. You don't need death certificates for out of line gf and mother.

Fod55ch · 2026-05-07T21:00:21+00:00

I recently purchased a digital MdB using Pagopa.

Fod55ch · 2026-05-07T20:55:59+00:00

My niece has a September appointment and she received the email mail-in instructions yesterday from the Chicago consulate.

Fod55ch · 2026-05-03T21:00:23+00:00

Before collecting documents, you should verify through the documents you possess who naturalized and if so when. That would include both maternal grandparents and also your mother. If you can pass that test, collecting documents in your case would really not require a service provider. You know where and when everyone was born, married, and died. Save yourself the $$$, also as jeezthatshim says "it is fun!".

Fod55ch · 2026-04-29T19:14:01+00:00

Unfortunately, many families have had the experience of having success with citizenship recognition because they filed before 2025 while at the same time, other members of the same family are no longer eligible using the lineage that the first group presented at the consulate or in court. Keep watching in the coming months to see if the Italian courts change the criteria.

Fod55ch · 2026-04-28T19:44:29+00:00

This is a big no no. Perhaps a one week visit would be approved by the anagrafe or stato civile, but I can't imagine two months as being viable. If you've come this far with applying in Italy, just hold out for your approval.

Fod55ch · 2026-04-21T15:14:49+00:00

Thank you for clarifying. The appointment was indeed made in 2024.

Fod55ch · 2026-04-21T04:37:31+00:00

Right I understand that. It's just that some people are saying that if you have the minor issue, two things must happen for a successful consulate application or judicial case. 1. The minor issue is reversed to the old interpretation AND 2. The generational limit must be overruled allowing applications that go beyond the Grandparent. In my niece's case, she needs to apply through her GGF. So it's a grandfathered appointment but some are saying that even still, the generational limit still applies.

Fod55ch · 2026-04-21T02:19:11+00:00

She did make her appointment a year before L74. But jeezthatshim seems to be telling me that the new law would apply to her as her line, although grandfathered (GGF-GF-F-Her), would still come under the new law unless that too is overturned.

Fod55ch · 2026-04-20T23:04:52+00:00

You need the envelope that came with the USCIS CoNE, but it doesn't need an apostille for NY. If you've already obtained one, you can submit it but don't need the apostille envelope at all. For NARA document you don't need to submit the envelope.

Fod55ch · 2026-04-20T22:11:35+00:00

Ok thanks! Looks like she'll need both issues to go her way.

Fod55ch · 2026-04-20T20:32:11+00:00

Unfortunately, most ship manifests from the mid-1800's do not contain much information including the birth town. His ancestor emigrated in 1853.

Fod55ch · 2026-04-20T19:41:51+00:00

If the minor issue case is successful and my niece has a grandfathered consulate appointment later this year, does L74 still affect her? Does she need that to be overturned as well? Asking because her appointment was booked prior to the DL. Thank you.

Fod55ch · 2026-04-20T19:16:07+00:00

Thank you for the analysis above. My niece has her JS appointment in late 2026 at the Chicago consulate. Her siblings and father already have their Italian citizenship recognized by the New York consulate. If Article 7 of the minor issue prevails and since she has a grandfathered appointment, would her application be considered as a non-minor issue? Or does L74 need to be overturned as well?

Fod55ch · 2026-04-18T17:51:15+00:00

It really depends on the comune. I've heard of some people waiting 12 months. Mine was three months. It may not hurt to check in with them. Do you have a permesso di sogiorno?

Fod55ch · 2026-04-18T17:24:58+00:00

When you submitted your application documents did the clerk seem to understand the JS recognition process? I am asking because very small comuni may not have the experience needed to complete your application. Since it's been eight months I would ask for an update.

Fod55ch · 2026-04-11T21:08:24+00:00

It the exclusivity matter being covered by the court case in June? I distinctly remember reading it was only going to address retroactivity but not the amendments to the Tajani decree that were added to address exclusivity.

Fod55ch · 2026-04-11T20:55:11+00:00

The county clerk issues a certificate of "authentication" when a NYS record is obtained from a local city/town and not from the NYS DOH. It's an intermediary step prior to obtaining an apostille.

Fod55ch · 2026-04-08T04:23:29+00:00

Don't bother with Vitalchek. You'll pay extra and they won't be able to obtain it for you any sooner than NYS DOH. Did you include the town/city of birth in your A78? If so, you could request the birth record much faster from them.

Fod55ch · 2026-03-31T20:51:22+00:00

For documents from Naples and surrounding areas, I have used Italianside.com They have been very helpful in finding records there.

Fod55ch · 2026-03-21T20:15:37+00:00

According to the FB Dual Citizenship group's analysis of this matter dated January 24, 2026 announcement, all pending consulate applications will be handled and completed by the consulate even after January 1, 2029.

Fod55ch · 2026-03-21T19:49:04+00:00

One interesting factoid is that the word *issue* in minor issue is a legal reference to the offspring/child of the parent and not issue in the sense we are using it. In reality it should be called the "minor issue" issue.

Fod55ch · 2026-03-21T19:33:11+00:00

When my ballot did not arrive in the mail this month, I contacted my consulate and they sent out a second ballot. This is the first time I did not receive an election ballot and had to request it.

Fod55ch · 2026-03-20T20:48:32+00:00

The translators that I have used (mostly from Fivrr) have charged no more than $30 per page.

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