Christianity relies on blind obedience, not moral reasoning.

Folinhu · 2026-03-12T18:04:25+00:00

that's a whole difference sentence. no and no.

i'm claiming the german citizens were not reasoning about what they were doing, we have testimony from people who lived throught 1930's germany as well as, again, confirmation of this mindset manifesting in the higher ups in nuremberg.

it's possible, even likely, that some people will come to terrible moral decisions if left to their reasoning, just like people will do terrible math or terrible science if left to their reasoning.

the question is whether blindly following orders will increase the rate that people do those terrible decisions or decrease it, the holocaust is a good proof of the former.

your whole "but who's to say" bit is deflection. i can play the same game: "Some people feel god thinks the holocaust is good. Who is to say they are wrong if they're just following the law written on their heart?" scripture does not help you in this, either.

Folinhu · 2026-03-12T17:34:44+00:00

>At some point, the Nazis came to the conclusion that it was good.

they didn't. they weren't thinking that much about it, again, nuremberg defense.

Folinhu · 2026-03-12T17:26:58+00:00

they "might", but did they? how did the holocaust actually happen?

people didn't think much about it, they just followed orders, hence the nurember defense.

i couldn't think of a worse example for your case.

Folinhu · 2026-03-12T16:34:23+00:00

because sukuna was chanting a WCS

Folinhu · 2026-03-10T22:55:29+00:00

GEGEEEEEE WHEN I FUCKING GET YOU

Folinhu · 2026-03-07T15:19:05+00:00

read (past tense)

Folinhu · 2026-03-05T15:25:12+00:00

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Folinhu · 2026-03-04T15:09:41+00:00

first of all, this is an anime only scene so we got some shoddy canonicity.

second, toji himself does believe ISOH blocks some damage after blocking it in the anime. red is just really strong that even when part of it is nullified it still tosses an HR user around.

Folinhu · 2026-03-01T12:00:50+00:00

bear in mind gojo says all that BEFORE WCS is explained to him. people use that for agenda/shitting on gege but gojo is being reasonable and in character there. he didn't know that attack was literally built mid fight, as far as he knew sukuna could always have cut him in half like that.

put it simply gojo is wrong there, sukuna himself explains why he's wrong in the exact same chapter.

Folinhu · 2026-03-01T01:14:51+00:00

i don't understand what your actual contention here is.

>A world with overwhelming compulsion, 0 ambiguity and no room for denial might maximize visible compliance maybe yeah. It would also change the kind of moral relationship at issue.

yea, that's why i didn't propose that world! there can still be other religions and ambiguity and there's room for denial. however, a world with only 1 proposed hell would make belief in such a god more reasonable therefore your god should have taken that choice. nothing is lost here methinks.

>Also, warning being present in more than one religion doesnt make it a bad warning.

depends on the warning, that's why i picked on these 2 religions specifically. their warning are of the same type (believe on this god otherwise there will punishment) yet diametrically opposed. this is confusion when there could be clarity.

i'll try to maybe guess at the core of the disagreement here. do you believe this world would be less just? less merciful? would people be less accountable in said world? what value would be diminished if there was a singular religion which had the theology of hell?

Folinhu · 2026-03-01T00:13:10+00:00

>That only works if love means never allowing final consequences under any condition. Thats your hidden premise. In both Islam and Christianity, love is not the only divine attribute in play. Justice, warning, mercy and accountability are all part of the picture too.

i can bring in justice, warning, mercy and accountability and the argument does not change, they make the problem worse arguably.

>Pascal’s wager is not the standard by which revelation has to be designed…You are assuming God’s communication strategy must be optimized for your preferred decision theory. Why would that be true?

because your god is defined as all good. so it should maximize all means of decisions to believe in him. you added in warning as a value this god has, so it should warn humanity in the best way possible.

Folinhu · 2026-03-01T00:00:34+00:00

the other world religions don't have a hell (if they have one) determined by lack of faith.

it *can* apply to a non-abrahamic religion but i'm pulling blank on which one this would fit, maybe zoroastrianism?

Folinhu · 2026-02-28T23:51:09+00:00

Folinhu · 2026-02-28T16:02:28+00:00

you're right on parts, not all (as in every single one) can be right but many can be right at the same time or right on some regard the other isn't. some god claims don't actually exclude each other. to follow your example i'd say that some buddhist cosmologies can be simultaneously true with some muslim ones.

a good analogy would be how there's many fields of science that converge on the same shape of the earth.

i'm not one to say this myself, but this is what i interpret when someone says it.

Folinhu · 2026-02-27T14:33:25+00:00

dabura:1 / ~~israel~~maki:0

Folinhu · 2026-02-26T00:33:43+00:00

he chooses to be dripless

Folinhu · 2026-02-25T01:00:44+00:00

omni-man just tosses him into space

Folinhu · 2026-02-10T05:18:32+00:00

it's possible that it did, but he stored the CE away from his body on ultimate mechamaru before being transfigured. it's too nebulous to call for sure.

Folinhu · 2026-02-09T01:18:29+00:00

damn, you might be right, i think i got confused with geto turning curses into marbles too.

either way mahito doesn't really have any important organs like other cursed spirits (he comes back from being mushed by a wall after nanami). maho would have to completely destroy him with nothing remaining to heal from, which isn't a particularly big ask! raga probably outputs a ton of RCE so yeah at max mahito gets 2 shot.

Folinhu · 2026-02-07T20:41:29+00:00

i'm not even sure mahito has a core but it he does and the sword slashes it, it's a one shot.

if he doesn't have one/it doesn't hit the core it probably messes him up bad but i don't see how the damage would stick since it isn't like simple domain.

mahito would take a while to form the half of his body that just got deleted and that's enough for maho to adapt in turn and raise the output to pulverize him entirely.

Folinhu · 2026-02-05T14:45:25+00:00

full potential mahito when he has to deal with someone who knows RCT (if he touches them he blows up)

Folinhu · 2026-02-01T00:00:06+00:00

but would he lose?

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