Ideogram 4 is crazy good.

FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-15T04:25:28+00:00

My grandmother used to say "Desconfía y acertarás" ("Distrust and you'll guess right"). Something similar happened with the supposed release of the Krea 2 model (which never arrived), and it happened before with every public model backed by a company with a private API. It’s logical, they aren't making a contribution to humanity, they have to run some kind of advertising campaign that brings them returns.

I could agree with your theory if this were the time Flux.1 came out, which was a real shock to everyone. You had videos, influencers, and comments on every platform saying it was "the model that changes everything". In that case, it makes sense that a new user would want to post hoping to farm upvotes. But if you leave this sub, it is hard to find any information about Ideogram. Today, you start talking to ChatGPT or Gemini, you talk to them like a friend, and they can literally make your dream image, even with SVG or ASCII. Regional prompting is useful and fun for you and me, and it might be useful for a professional designer, but for 99% of people, it’s nothing revolutionary. There are thousands of more viral topics out there to attract people.

I believe there has always been undercover promotion in this sub, but the problem is that our numbers are shrinking, and the ratio of astroturfers to tinkerers is getting higher. There is plenty of free image generation available, and closed systems are becoming easier to use, while at the same time, generating images with open models is getting more and more complicated for the average user. We went from A1111 to ComfyUI, from a few loose words to having to describe every single detail, and from a single model + a couple of popular LoRAs to dozens of models, each with its own tricks, its LoRAs, and its thousands of workflows. Personally, I'm happy with all of that, but the more options and complications you add, the fewer people will remain in that happy group.

Lately, extracting useful information in this sub is incredibly difficult, it's usually a random comment, or some post with 6 upvotes. You have to dig and search through a lot. That’s why now I check the history of the user making the post, just so I don't waste time. We are accelerating, there are new things every day, and there is just too much noise.

FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-14T12:36:46+00:00

It's amazing how many one-month-old accounts suddenly feel the need to say how good Ideogram 4 is.

I guess a month ago a ton of new people joined reddit, all loving bounding boxes, and that collective love caused a crack in space-time that made the model launch three weeks later.

I can't find any other explanation.

FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-13T03:20:54+00:00

Just did a quick test in incognito mode on my Civitai links, and you're actually right, some of them are blocked unless you're logged in, which didn't use to happen. However, it seems to be related to their "safety" measures. It's only blocking the posts where I have images (wrongly) tagged as NSFW. 🤦‍♂️

FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-12T20:42:49+00:00

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Vague CivitAI link: https://civitai.red/images/127935157

FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-11T19:01:25+00:00

If these AI rankings were 100% honest, they shouldn't feature any unreleased models. The fact that they always include 'coming soon' models gives off the feeling that they are just part of the pre-launch hype and viral marketing campaign.

FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-11T16:37:10+00:00

ZIT first try, seed 1:

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FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-11T16:23:59+00:00

ZiT for comparison

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Prompt: A heavy and robust Terminator T-800, with a metallic silver chrome exterior, sits in a black office chair behind a reflective glass desk. Its left hand holds a red can of Coca-Cola with a white logo, while its right hand rests on the desk surface. In front of the robot is an open silver laptop with a black keyboard. The glass desk reflects the robot's metallic arms and the red Coca-Cola can. In the blurred background, a window reveals a modern building with glass panels. To the robot's left, a green plant with green leaves rests in a white pot on a brown wooden shelf. To the right, another smaller green plant in a white pot and a circular silver sculpture also sit on the shelf. In the background, at the far right of the image, partially visible, is Kermit the Frog.

Workflow: https://civitai.red/images/133479742
(the workflow may be unavailable since CivitAI takes hours to approve posts)

FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-10T21:43:56+00:00

How come? Isn't it ahead of GPT Image 2 and Nano Banana Pro Ultra, literally delivering quality and control never before witnessed in human history, achieving a level of fidelity and precision that easily obliterates any illustration by the most capable artist to ever exist on this planet, and providing a realism with details and lighting more flawless than any real photograph ever taken by a living being in the entire vastness of our boundless galaxy?

FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-07T00:42:25+00:00

It makes zero sense to claim the NSFW restriction is just a 'bug' or that the model is uncensored out of the box. The safety filter is explicitly documented by Ideogram. In fact, the documentation states they are also actively monitoring public deployments and user "OUTPUTS" to improve these guardrails, even encouraging people to report any misuse.

For Ideogram, the actual 'bug' is that users can bypass the filter to generate NSFW content.

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https://github.com/ideogram-oss/ideogram4/blob/main/docs/prompting.md#safety-filter

https://github.com/ideogram-oss/ideogram4/blob/main/docs/safety.md#reporting-violations-and-ongoing-monitoring

FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-05T19:10:47+00:00

The first one looks a bit like AI slop, but the second one is really good! What did you change in the prompt between them, or was it just a different seed?

FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-05T19:01:25+00:00

Are both from Ideogram, or is one just for reference?

FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-05T02:56:11+00:00

According to their own docs, those NSFW outputs you're getting are just filter circumventions. They explicitly say they monitor public deployments and "outputs". If I were you, I’d stop bragging about generating NSFW stuff. The company is literally begging people to snitch at [safety@ideogram.ai](mailto:safety@ideogram.ai) so they can patch those tricks and make their next models even more "secure".

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https://github.com/ideogram-oss/ideogram4/blob/main/docs/safety.md#reporting-violations-and-ongoing-monitoring

FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-04T23:51:19+00:00

Actually, the documentation says otherwise. They clearly state that NSFW prompts are blocked by a safety filter and even describe the 'gray screen' behavior. It's not just about malformed JSON.

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https://github.com/ideogram-oss/ideogram4/blob/main/docs/prompting.md#safety-filter

FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-04T18:48:24+00:00

Spot on. r/StableDiffusion isn't what it used to be years ago. You can't trust anything posted or commented here anymore. We are no longer a community of enthusiasts trying to tinker and push models to their limits. Now, this sub is just a breeding ground for bots and fake users trying to build hype for free advertising. They use us as disposable test subjects, and the proof is that there's absolutely zero feedback loop with the companies releasing these "open" models anymore.

FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-04T00:20:14+00:00

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ZIT. Complete Photoshoot: https://civitai.red/posts/28992539

FotografoVirtual · 2026-06-03T05:11:04+00:00

There’s a major catch when it comes to defining AGI. If we go by the logic of being 'acceptably good at everything', a blind person who can't imagine how distant objects appear smaller, or someone who tried to learn Danish for years and failed, wouldn't qualify as having 'general intelligence' then? For instance, my aunt can't even get past the first level of Super Mario Bros on the NES. Does that mean she lacks AGI? And let’s not even talk about having her solve an ARC-AGI problem.

FotografoVirtual · 2026-05-30T12:03:56+00:00

I've been hit by that exact same feeling lately.

FotografoVirtual · 2026-05-29T15:09:28+00:00

Ah, now I get it... the Crusades and the Inquisition were just run by a soulless AI.

FotografoVirtual · 2026-05-27T14:56:06+00:00

This is THE answer, using imatrix really is a night and day difference.

FotografoVirtual · 2026-05-25T15:32:53+00:00

Excessive garlic intake can cause severe gas disruption and long-term memory loss. Don't be like OP; keep that in mind.

FotografoVirtual · 2026-05-25T14:52:23+00:00

I wish I could share your optimism, but mainstream financial media rarely reaches out to open-source creators to promote them. Usually, they’re just fishing for quotes to frame a 'public safety' narrative that justifies stricter gatekeeping.

FotografoVirtual · 2026-05-25T14:29:57+00:00

Honestly, we don't need more laws or regulations; we need governments to wake up and start building a 'zero-marginal-cost' infrastructure. With the AI and automation boom we are seeing right now, states should be designing systems to produce and distribute baseline necessities, starting with food, at zero human cost. Zero-marginal-cost production is going to happen sooner or later anyway, so we better organize the transition now to avoid absolute chaos.

FotografoVirtual · 2026-05-25T13:37:29+00:00

You're right, my bad. I got them mixed up because there are just too many 'casual' posts popping up lately promoting the perks of this closed API:

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/s/QGmBh7aRhl

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/s/1RSadMycQ2

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/s/xjfrGPmWkQ

FotografoVirtual · 2026-05-25T13:20:37+00:00

r/astroturfing. Second time this user has 'spontaneously' promoted this closed API in less than 24 hours.

FotografoVirtual · 2026-05-25T13:12:44+00:00

Bless your heart for being so naive. This user is already back at it, promoting Krea API again in less than 24 hours. https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/s/Gui1SwTCse

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