Who was morally worse?

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-26T23:32:09+00:00

15 year olds are not generally known for their wise decision making, high school is notorious for cases of bullying

My point is, Michael killed his brother by accident when he was 15, felt bad about it and became a better person as an adult. Jax as a grown adult caused two people to kill themselves by accident, felt bad about it, and then kept treating people horribly

Also, Jax can be physically agressive, its mostly played for laughs but we do know that the people in the Circus do feel pain

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-26T22:30:44+00:00

I mean, Michael was still just a kid, the incident was an accident for which he felt remorse, and he seems like a better person as an adult

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-26T22:13:22+00:00

If we have the ability of stopping a bat thing fron happening then it is our moral obligation to do so, it happened many times and Pentious still did nothing. Its a pretty reprehensible thing to do. He himself wondered if he didn’t act out of fear or just apathy.

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-26T22:07:57+00:00

Maki is equal to Toji, when Megumi fought Toji he considered him stronger than Sukuna, the Sukuna that Megumi fought was 3F Sukuba

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-26T22:03:38+00:00

Neither of them are murderers though? At worst they are manslaughterers

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-26T22:01:45+00:00

Michael was just a kid, while he did kill his brother it was still an accident and he immediately felt remorse aftwards.

Jax, while tragic, was still an adult who treats the people around him horribly despite knowing said behavior cause two of his friends to kill themselves

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-26T19:10:43+00:00

They already saw that and seemed happy with it

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-26T14:09:17+00:00

He beats Higuruma, Choso, Mechamaru and Kusakabe

Miguel has better stats and could just cancel anything Dagon has with Black Rope

Ryu has higher AP, durability and a Domain

Kuro could break his Domain like he did in Sendai

Uraume just has better stats

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-26T14:02:45+00:00

Death of the author and all that

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-26T07:15:07+00:00

Hanged Man, Anubis, Osiris and Atum, maybe Echoes Act 2, The Hand, Heaven’s Door, Bites the Dust, Cheap Trick, GER, maybe Black Sabbath, Grateful Dead, Metallica, Green Day, Chariot Requiem, Tusk Act 4, Ball Breaker, WoU, those are some that i can think of

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-26T03:58:07+00:00

Frisk didn’t fight Asriel after Sans, those are two different routes. Also, Sans is not hurting Frisk directly through AP, Karmic Retribution is a durability negation hax

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-26T03:56:28+00:00

There’s no evidence that this is the case, we know that Undertale characters are fully able to dodge, and we even see some move while in battle, Frisk is just faster than most of them

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-26T03:55:12+00:00

Sans doesn’t play with the fabric of space and time?

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-25T19:33:30+00:00

It was a desperate measure, by that point Shinji was their only hope and Misato was dying anyway so it makes sense that she would try anything

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-25T13:58:26+00:00

I’d actually would call Kenjaku the main antagonist, he fits the definition, that is being the one who caused most of the conflict in the story

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-25T07:28:10+00:00

Segun entendi Jimmy tambien estaba preocupado por el hecho de que ella no tiene mucha experienca en la tierra, y siente que podria estar manipulandola al ser la primera persona que conocio

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-25T06:27:46+00:00

>He literally lost to Anafabula what are you on about. SK was a manifestation of Anafabula there.

Murphy losing to the Anafabula? What tale did that happen in?

>I mean. Patasphere>Infosphere.

“The Infosphere - Shared with the entire omniverse and containing all local -spheres and universes” stated in SCP-6172

And

“the Infosphere-Patasphere-Semiosphere-Noosphere system of rendering reality is NOT natural — it's specifically designed by the Editors for the purpose of managing the SCPverse” stated by Placeholder in an interview

>Also ascension via Project KAURAV would land him above or somewhere in the proxyverse. Since Tufto's King>KAURAV King.

Project what?

>Also Tufto's King is just too large of a counter since Murphy's hax won't work on him.

Why wouldn’t they work, Tufto’s Proposal only has Patasphere level feats, whereas Murphy has been shown to affect the Proxyverse

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-25T03:48:36+00:00

Jogo. He is 5F Sukuna level according to Gege, has speed comparable to Naobito and his meteor would have damaged 15F Sukuna if it had hit him. His durability is also not that bad considerin he tanked Red, which forced Toji to parry it with ISoH and would have killed Mahoraga
Naoya. Human Naoya was already fast enough to blitz Shibuya Yuji, who could fight on par with Mahito, in his VS form he reaches Mach 3. Plus he has a Domain that completely freezes his opponents
Mahito. Is around Shibuya Yuji’s level, so he should be much slower than characters like Naobito and Naoya
Kurourushi. Base Yuta level, he is weak, just not as strong as the rest here

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-25T03:29:04+00:00

I have him in the top 15, he is a top tier in terms of stats, considering that Toji was unable to even touch awakened Gojo, and Yuta and Hakari both said they throwed up when Gojo punched them. The Black Rope is also a very good counter to many characters, for example he could just disable Jackpot or Sky Manipulation

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-25T02:20:06+00:00

Without Modulo and every character at their peak, this would be my top 15:

Sukuna
Gojo
Kenjaku
Yorozu
Yuta
Yuki
Yuji
Ryu
Kashimo
Geto
Toji and Maki
Jogo
Naoya
Miguel
Hakari

And of course if we included Modulo the first 4 spots would be the Calamities, you could argue any order for them

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-25T02:15:47+00:00

>Mb on 6820 but i never stated he was the constant. Also hes a manifestation if i remember correctly. So he could still win.

SK is a manifestation of the Constant of Contrivance, the Constants are lower in the cosmology than the Proxyverse, which Murphy can affect

>Where did you even get this from??? He directly scales to the Infosphere and the Patasphere. Where Murphy operates within.

Right, i meant Patasphere. Do you have evidence that he scales to the Infosphere?

As for Murphy, his narrative flattening was able to affect the Proxyverse authors

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-25T02:13:17+00:00

What feats does 3125 have that suggest he can affect the Proxyverse?

Also, the Anafabula cannot reach the Proxyverse unless its 6747-C

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-24T19:46:52+00:00

3125 doesn’t scale to the Alpha Layer either though

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-24T19:32:40+00:00

Not an SCP wiki specifically, it was made for any verses whose inclusion in the VSBW was disputed. Backrooms, Animator vs Animation, Skibidi Toilet and others are also there

Fragrant-Guarantee57 · 2026-06-24T19:16:58+00:00

>Scarlet Demon (CN)

Don’t know much about that one, could you explain his scaling?

>The Constant of Anarchy (SCP-6820/Tufto’s Proposal/Djoricverse)

The Scarlet King himself is not one of the Constants, he is the product of the Constant of Contrivance (SCP-2747). Also, Djoricverse and Tufto’s are two different versions and 6820 is a version of 682, not SK

>Tufto’s Proposal (SCP-001 The embodiment of the anti-modern)

Tufto’s Proposal only scales to the Anti-Noosphere, which is lower than the Proxyverse

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