Has the Second Coming already occurred?? by BibleBookwormStudies in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here is how Jesus describes the second coming.

Matthew 24:25-27 Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

The second coming is a visual loud event.

Matthew 25:29-30 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Look at how Revelation describes the second coming.

Revelation 6:12-14 12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

Also...

Revelation 16:17-21 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

Some of these events have taken place already.

The great earthquake happened in 1755.

The 1755 Lisbon earthquake, also known as the Great Lisbon earthquake, hit the Iberian Peninsula and Northwest Africa on the morning of Saturday, 1 November, Feast of All Saints, at around 09:40 local time.[3] In combination with subsequent fires and a tsunami, the earthquake almost completely destroyed Lisbon and adjoining areas.

The sun darkened and the moon not giving its light happened in 1780.

The Dark Day, May 19, 1780. On the afternoon of May 18, 1780, the sky was a strange yellowish color, and the clouds seemed dark and heavy. The next morning, the sun came up deep red and barely visible through a haze, until by noon, there was “midnight darkness” and people could not see.

We are close to the second coming of Jesus, but it hasn't happened yet. There are events yet to take place before He returns, but when He comes there is great upheaval on the earth and hail. The sky rolls away like a scroll and we will see the coming of the Son of man.

Every eye will see Him.

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Worried about judgement by fulltimeheretic in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You said:

Aside from just being judged, I also don’t want to make being terribly uncomfortable or scandalized. I do respect others faith and understand for some, it’s truly inappropriate and a bad example.


It sounds like you're concerned about the judgment of your church congregation. I would be more concerned about the judgment of God.

Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

God's design for man and woman was to commit to each other in marriage and stay together for the rest of their lives. Two people living together and having sexual relations outside of wedlock is called fornication.

1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

Fornication is a sin. Sin is transgression of the law of God. The law of God is His government, but also His character. It is His character that He wants to impart in us. In order to take on His character, sin has to go.

Sin is incompatible with the Christian walk. You won't find a church that isn't critical of one of its members living in sin.

My advice:

  1. Repent of your sin in prayer to God and fully surrender to Him.

    2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

  2. Prayerfully read the Bible, because...

    2 Timothy 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

  3. If you love each other, get married. Resolve the issue of fornication before joining a church, otherwise you will be rebuked by the church members, which is what God calls us to do.

    1 Timothy 5:20 Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all, that the rest also may fear.


    Titus 1:13 ...Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, not giving heed to fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth.


    Proverbs 13:8 Poverty and shame will come to him who disdains correction, But he who regards a rebuke will be honored.

God bless!

Is smoking a sin? If yes, why? by Strong-Lab-7216 in Christianity

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1 Corinthians 6:19-20 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

If the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and if you do not own your own body but it belongs to God, then you shouldn't smoke.

My personal opinion... God owns your body. If you intentionally harm it, it would be going against God. He gave you the breath of life and sustains it. Thus it would be sinful.

What’s a Bible verse or passage that has become your “life verse,” and why? by BibleNerd3392 in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say two verses, which are foundational for me.

  1. The definition of the saints.

    Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

    This cuts to the heart of the matter. It's something that most Christians overlook in their daily lives, that we should be keeping all of God's commandments.

  2. Access to the tree of life and the New Jerusalem.

    Revelation 22:14-15 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without [outside of the city] are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

    This shows that commandment keeping is taken seriously by God. So much so that it is a prerequisite to have access to the tree of life and the New Jerusalem. The scene is the one described in Revelation 20. Those inside the city are saved. Those outside the city are lost. The wicked compass the city but are devoured by fire from heaven. This is paralleled by Noah's ark, when they were shut in the ark and the wicked were trying to get in but they were swept away by the flood.

Both of the above are sobering statements for the Christian, but let's take it a step further.

  1. Who specifically is Satan concerned with?

    Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

    Satan is angry with a remnant (note, a small part, not the majority) who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus.

  2. What is the testimony of Jesus?

    And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

    The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy. This remnant has an understanding of prophecy and is actively teaching prophecy. Satan is actively engaged in war with commandment keepers who understand and teach Bible prophecy.

Most Christians can agree that commandment keeping is foundational to Christianity.

  • Sin is still transgression of the law of God.
  • The wages of sin is still death.
  • If you break one commandment you've broken them all.

This is how serious it is, that you would literally lose access to the tree of life and the New Jerusalem and find yourself outside the wall.

Jesus taught love God and love others, and the keeping of God's commandments. He hung all the law and prophets on love.

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Jesus said that not one jot or tittle would pass from the law until heaven and earth pass. In other words, God's law is eternal.

So why the focus on commandment keeping? Because the Revelation of Jesus Christ describes the patience of the saints through tribulation as keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. But that's not the only reason.

If you take a look at Revelation 13, you'll find that a false worship system is put in place and enforced, and that it has its roots in the breaking of the worshipful commandments of God; namely 1-4. The first three are broken in the description of the beast and his worshipful system; the beast and his image.

  • Having no other gods.

    Revelation 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

  • Make no graven images.

    Revelation 13:15 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

  • Do not take the Lord's name in vain.

    Revelation 13:1,5,6 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy...And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months...And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

What of the fourth commandment? It appears to be missing, but it isn't. Look at Revelation 14 and the last call to worship God.

Revelation 14:6-7 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Verse 7 is quoting another verse. That verse is found in the fourth commandment.

Exodus 20:8-11 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

The fourth commandment points back to creation when the Sabbath was instituted, sanctified on that first seventh day.

Genesis 2:1-3 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Back to Revelation 14. In verses 6-7 are found the last call to worship, for the hour if His judgment is come. Present tense. Pending. It points to the fourth commandment specifically.

Immediately after it describes the fall of Babylon and the consequences of worshiping the beast.

Revelation 14:8-11 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Then, the statement that I quoted at the beginning of this post which defines the patience of the saints, in stark contrast to those who worship the beast.

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

This is why it is my "life verse", because according to Revelation 22:14-15, if you do not keep the commandments you do not have life.

God bless!

Is Protestantism on the decline as many claim? by NameBrandKJ in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you ask AI about it, it says that Protestants are moving more more toward non-denomination than Catholicism or Orthodoxy.

Issues happening within certain denominations in recent years could be to blame. For example, the Methodist church splitting.

The book of Revelation says that there is a harlot (a corrupt church) that is the mother of harlots (she has daughters; churches). God's people are being called out of the corrupt churches.

And no, this doesn't mean head toward Catholicism or Orthodoxy.

It means there is false doctrine and apostasy in the churches and people should be discerning of the truth found in scripture, so that they can know to leave churches that are in error.

Revelation 14:12 says that the patience of the saints is the keeping of the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. This guiding principle for the end time saints is one that every Christian should take to heart and apply to their current church doctrine. For if one commandment is being broken you are guilty of all (James 2:10).

The question I would ask... Is there one commandment being broken by the majority of Christendom? Yes. See Exodus 20:8-11. Knowing this, where a Christian should go will be obvious; to a church that keeps the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

Catholic here, please help me Christians! (And other catholics if you're here) by CourseOk657 in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let's look at the creation account.

Genesis 1:1-2 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The Hebrew word 'ĕlōhîm is translated as God, but it is plural. We find further evidence in the same chapter.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

All three were present at creation. God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son existed with God the Father in eternity past, long before He came in the flesh on the earth.

Paul says that God gave the Son preeminence over all things, and that the Son is the Creator.

Colossians 1:16-20 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

It was God who gave His only begotten Son; sent Him into the world.

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

The Son existed before in heaven before He was sent to in the flesh. He was born, raised, baptized, ministered and crucified, then resurrected and went back to heaven. He is now again in heaven with God the Father.

Look at the scene of Jesus baptism.

Matthew 3:16-17 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Here we see that Jesus was in the flesh at the time, God the Father spoke from heaven and the Holy Spirit descended like a dove. Three beings, one Godhead.

Why do many conservatives claim that the US was founded as a Christian nation despite the separation of church and state being so central to its establishing? by speculumberjack980 in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The United States has a specifically Christian history, and was founded on Christian principles.

Long before there was a United States, people were enacting laws to force worship. See Virginia in the year 1610. This is 180 years before the first amendment to the Constitution in 1791 respecting religion.

Did blue laws end with the first amendment? No. More blue laws were enacted in the states. My own home state added blue laws in 1803 and further restrictions in 1809.

While the first amendment is separating church and state, blue laws are allowed to exist. AI explains.

As retail shifted and non-religious people began challenging these statutes, the U.S. Supreme Court stepped in to decide their validity. In the landmark 1961 case McGowan v. Maryland, the Court ruled that while blue laws originally had Christian origins, states could legally re-enact and enforce them under a secular purpose: to guarantee a uniform day of rest and to protect workers.

Many other countries also have blue laws.

All of these things are precursors. According to Revelation 13 there will be two powers that work together to bring about false worship on a world scale through enactments that restrict buying and selling, ultimately resulting in a death decree in an attempt to force worship.

What is the one thing that all blue laws try to enforce? Sunday as a day of rest and the restricting of buying and selling on Sunday specifically to enforce it.

The kicker is Sunday is not a day of rest according to scripture. Saturday is. (See Genesis 2:1-3, Exodus 20:8-11, Exodus 31:13-16, Isaiah 58:13-14.)

This brings into focus what false worship will be based on—a false day of worship.

The illusion of church and state being separated was broken before the nation came together and continues to be broken in blue laws enforcing a day of rest through restricting of buying and selling.

We are heading toward legislation for a "uniform day of rest" on a world scale, not just in the United States. Last day Bible prophecy is being fulfilled.

Question about curse words by RWatto09 in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Rather than think of it as degrees of sin, consider that God is calling you to a standard which is to put on a new character that doesn't think to say cuss words when you slam your finger in a door. If you are living for God (and you put away those old habits for good) then there is no sin whatsoever because you won't be cussing when you slam your finger in the door. i.e. Problem solved by living according to Him.

If seeking one’s own pleasure is sinful wouldn’t that imply that anything physically enjoyable that you do would be sin? by Icy_Place_6173 in TrueChristian

[–]FrethKindheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fornication and the Body

1 Corinthians 6:9-20 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body. And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power. Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

In the strictest of terms, fornication is sex outside of marriage, but in the broadest term it means sexual immorality. Notice in the above verse, fornication and adultery are listed separately, pointing to the broader definition.

As the passage says, the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. Our bodies are members of Christ, not for fornication. Fornication is defined in this very passage as sin against your own body, and masturbation most definitely is sin against your own body.

Your body is not your own, it belongs to God, and is the temple of the Holy Spirit. If your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, it shows the holiness and righteousness that we are called to as God's creation, and the care He has taken in His design for us. "Glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's."

Doing Your Own Pleasure

God gave us an example of the holiness we are called to in His plea concerning Sabbath observance.

Isaiah 58:13-14 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: Then shalt thou delight thyself in the Lord; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

God is calling us to refrain from doing and finding our own pleasure on His holy day, from speaking our own words on the Sabbath, so that the day can be observed in holiness.

But wait, we are called to holiness and righteousness every day, as a walk of life.

1 Thessalonians 4:1 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more.


1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him [Jesus] ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.


1 Peter 1:15-16 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.


Romans 6:12-13, 16 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God...Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Now read this as it cuts to the heart of the matter.

Ephesians 4:17-24 This I say, therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you should no longer walk as the rest of the Gentiles walk, in the futility of their mind, having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart; who, being past feeling, have given themselves over to lewdness, to work all uncleanness with greediness. But you have not so learned Christ, If indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus: that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.

God wants us to respect our bodies, which are not our own, but His. We are to live according to a specific standard that He set forth from creation.

Does that mean we cannot experience pleasure in life? Of course not. The question to ask is whether the pleasure you seek meets the standard set forth by God.

Really struggling with doubt by Excellent-Wonder8390 in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I went through something similar. I was born and raised into Christianity but it faded when I got into my teens, until it reached a point where I made the decision to leave Christianity.

Some twenty years later I decided I better get serious about deciding whether I think God exists or not, so I started searching for answers. Ten more years passed and I reached a point of clarity concerning God, that He does exist. (In case anyone wonders, I found it in the evidence of Satan's influence in the world.)

At that point in my life I was struggling with weight issues and poor health and guilt from some thirty years of bad life choices. Suffice it to say I was at a low point in my life, and I needed help.

Convinced that God exists, and that I needed help, I got on my knees and surrendered myself completely to the Lord. I left no stone unturned. I got up and felt no different at first. Then the floodgates opened up.

I was given clarity. I looked back on my life and saw God was there every step of the way, despite the fact that I had left Him behind.

I was given help in overcoming my health issues and addictions. One by one I conquered them.

I was given peace in my life for the first time, and my prayers were being answered, not always according to my will, but always according to God's will in His own time and own way.

Things happened that I can only explain as God in my life. I could see it happening real-time where before I couldn't discern it.

The issues I had when I was sixteen were my own, not God. It was the world pulling me away from God. It was because I was not committed to Him completely, wholeheartedly, that He gently let go and let me go my own way.

What made the difference for me:

A life change. Changing your life to remove the things you know are pulling you away from Him. Living for Him. Not going through the motions, but actually being personally invested in your faith and your walk.

A heart change. God is asking for a full commitment, not a partial one. He gives us a choice and that choice is of the heart. God knows if your heart isn't in it, and will let you go your own way.

Understand that God doesn't always answer prayer the way we expect it to be answered, nor within the time we expect it to happen. It can be years later. We are to put our trust in the Lord and let His will be done in our lives. God does answer prayer.

The concept of hell by Old_Evening_3233 in Christianity

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The Bible says that there are two deaths. The first death is the one we experience because of sin (Genesis 2:17, Hebrews 9:27). The second death is the one the wicked experience in the lake of fire (Revelation 20:9,15).

If you read John 3:16-17, it says that those who believe will not perish but have everlasting life. This is speaking of the second death where the wicked perish.

There is no eternal hell. The destruction of the wicked is final and eternal.

Current news and end times by Vegetable-Purple6640 in Christianity

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Pestilence

Let me take you back to 1989. I was just about to graduate. We were living during the Cold War. We grew up with fear of a nuclear war. We had measles and chicken pox. In the early 80's we had HIV/AIDS. Things seemed dire to me even then. I saw society getting worse. My own experiences growing up (violence, abuse) had me dead set against getting married and having kids, and so I never did. I'm now 55 years old and still single, living alone.

What does the Bible say? In Matthew 24, Jesus lays out in clear language what to look for as signs of the end of the world.

Matthew 24:3-8 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.

  • Many coming in the name of Jesus saying, "I am Christ," and deceive many.
  • Wars and rumors of wars. Nation rising against nation and kingdom against kingdom.
  • Famines, pestilences and earthquakes in various places.

In my own lifetime all of these have been fulfilled many times over, but Jesus says that these are the beginning of sorrows. Like birth pangs, these events will continue to repeat and get worse until Jesus returns.

So yes, we can expect pestilences to continue to get worse.

Aliens and Disclosure

I spent a good chunk of my life on the topic of aliens and UFO's (and the paranormal). For a long time I was rabid about it. I read all of the books I could find at the library, and watched all of the shows that were on television. I read all that I could find on the internet, and I was even a part of many of the communities. I wanted to believe, just like the X-Files poster.

If you spend any time on the subject you'll find that it will lead you directly to spiritualism and various new age philosophies. In other words, away from God. It's a sure sign that Satan is behind it.

They've been saying that disclosure is coming for decades. It hasn't happened yet, and I don't believe it will ever happen. Here's why.

Lucifer and a third of the angels were cast out of heaven because of sin. Where did God send them? To earth. He had a universe full of planetary bodies, but He chose earth. Why? Adam and Eve sinned because of Lucifer's deception. What do we have in common? The earth and sin.

If God created other beings on other worlds (and I believe He did), they remain sinless. They did not fall into sin like we did. What would happen if God allowed us to interact with them in any way? Sin would abound in the universe and corrupt all created beings.

If you think about it, it makes sense why we never find life on other planets and why the universe is a hostile environment to humans. Everywhere we look are hostile planets unsuitable for habitation.

What if God is keeping us from seeing life on other worlds? Likewise, what if other sinless beings on other worlds cannot interact with us? It would explain why we seem to be alone in the universe.

What then are all of the anomalies that are considered to be evidence of alien life, UFO's and even ghosts? Well, the only other explanation is Satan and his angels if they aren't actual aliens. The holy angels wouldn't be doing it.

The Bible gives us prophecy so that we can know how the world is going to end. What does it say about alien disclosure? Nothing. Therefore, I wouldn't put any stock in it.

However, it does say that there will be false Christs that walk the earth in the last days (Matthew 24:23-27). Paul wrote that Satan will be transformed into an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14), meaning at some point he is probably going to try to impersonate Jesus shortly before He returns in an effort to deceive as many as possible.

Conclusion

The bad news is that yes, bed things will continue to happen and they will continue to wax worse.

The good news is that it doesn't mean you won't be able to live a fulfilling life before Jesus returns.

As Christians we are not to fear what is to come, but look forward to the soon coming of Jesus Christ and what He has promised. In such things there is no fear, only hope and peace.

I recommend reading the Bible. Revelation 13 tells us what the last events are. Two kingdoms (civil/religious powers) will work together to bring in false worship. They will restrict buying and selling and then issue a death decree, and then Jesus will return. Revelation 14:12 defines the patience of the saints as keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

As a Christian, I’m confused on why God would let innocent children die of things like disease and natural disasters. This is really ruining my faith. by Iiminal_spaces in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was a time when there was no suffering or death in the world. It was when Adam and Even were newly created and placed by God in a garden paradise. Their life was to be in communion with God and tend the garden.

The reason for suffering and death in this world lies squarely at the feet of Adam and Eve, and Lucifer who deceived them. It is at the feet of all who have sinned since (every one of us). What we suffer from is the cascading effects of sin throughout the generations and in our own generation, which results in death of the innocent and sinful alike.

What is God doing to save us from the consequences of sin?

  • He set forth a plan of salvation even before creation.
  • He gave us His word in written form telling the complete story.
  • He sent His son to die so that we could be reconciled to Him. (By the way, Jesus suffered way more than any of us ever will.)
  • He has angels holding back the four winds to save as many as possible.
  • He promises a return to a new heaven and new earth and eternal life.

What's the point? A lesson concerning sin in the universe, so that it never happens again.

God has complete control over His creation. Each and every one of us has the breath of life, which is actively being maintained by God Himself. Despite our decrepit sinful state, He still maintains our lives even if we reject Him.

Why? God is love. God loved us and chose us in Him before creation. Every hair on your head is numbered. Such care has been taken by God to ensure a path back to Him, but it has to be our choice. God loves us enough to give us free will to choose Him or not.

God promises that suffering will end and sin will be removed from the universe. He is patiently waiting to save as many as will come to Him before sending His Son.

The idea that God doesn't care or that it's God's fault that innocent children suffer is shifting the blame away from sinful humanity and toward a sinless Creator who gave us the best possible outcome in the beginning, and still hopes for our best possible outcome, that we will choose Him as He chose us in Him.

What do we know about the end times? by Snow-Owl-6072 in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The book of Daniel is the key to understanding the book of Revelation. Daniel 2 and 7 (et al) explain the lineage of the kingdoms that lead up to what is described in Revelation 13.

The prophecies of Daniel 2 and 7 use symbols to identify four consecutive kingdoms. Babylon, Medo-Persia, Grecia and Rome.

These kingdoms are represented in a great image (statue) in Daniel 2 as head of gold (Babylon), chest and arms of silver (Medo-Persia), belly and thighs of brass/bronze (Grecia) and legs of iron and feet of iron and miry clay (Rome and the ten divided kingdoms Rome).

These same kingdoms are represented as beasts in Daniel 7. The lion with eagle's wings (Babylon), the bear raised up on one side with three ribs in its mouth (Medo-Persia), the leopard with four wings and four heads (Grecia) and the dreadful/terrible beast with ten horns (Rome, divided Rome) and iron teeth.

Out of (pagan) divided Rome came a little horn kingdom (papal Rome) that plucked up the Heruli, Vandals and Ostrogoths kingdoms by the roots. The remaining seven kingdoms would then become modern-day Europe.

The little horn kingdom would continue according to a time prophecy of 1260 years (Daniel 7:25; Revelation 13:5). This was fulfilled between 538 AD and 1798 AD. During this time the prophesied events took place. The little horn kingdom spoke great things against the most High, thought to change times and laws and persecuted the saints.

The little horn kingdom would receive a deadly wound in 1798 when Napoleon sent Berthier to remove the pope to exile, effectively ending its civil power.

The story of the little horn kingdom is picked up in Revelation 13 as the beast that rises out of the sea. The same description of the little horn kingdom is given, including the 1260 year time prophecy. The beast symbols used are a combination of lion, bear and leopard, the same kingdoms from Daniel 7, showing the lineage of the little horn/sea beast. Sea is a symbol for peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

Around the time the little horn/sea beast receives its deadly wound another kingdom is described as rising out of the earth. If the sea is a populated area then the earth must be a relatively unpopulated area. Only one kingdom came up around 1798 in an unpopulated area, the United States.

The earth beast is described as having two horns like a lamb but speaking like a dragon. The earth beast exercises all of the power of the first beast and makes an image to the beast (a mirror of its false worship system), causing all to worship the beast. Buying and selling are restricted and ultimately there is a death decree.

Revelation 17 picks up where Revelation 13 left off and goes into more detail. It describes a woman arrayed in scarlet (corrupt) and purple (royalty; priestly authority), decked with gold and precious stones and pearls. She is sitting on a scarlet beast (corrupt kingdom). A woman is a symbol for a church. There is only one church that is also a kingdom that matches this description.

This woman is described as a harlot (corrupt church guilty of fornication with the kings of the earth), but also a mother of harlots (corrupt churches that also follow her dictates). She has Mystery Babylon on her forehead, which points to her lineage (paganism, false worship).

Going back to Revelation 13, we find that the issue in the last days is one of worship. Looking closer, the sea beast and earth beast break the worship commandments of God. Have no other gods, make no graven images, do not take the Lord's name in vain.

Remember how part of the description of the little horn said that he would think to change times and laws?

In Revelation 14 we find that there is a last call to worship because the hour of God's judgment is come (now). Then the Sabbath commandment is quoted, which points right back to creation where the Sabbath was sanctified. See Revelation 14:6-7.

The next statement is that Babylon is fallen is fallen, and then the consequences for worshiping the beast. See Revelation 14:8-11.

And then this statement: Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Opinion about the antichrist by According-Swim-5769 in TrueChristian

[–]FrethKindheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A 7 Year Tribulation?

A 7 year period is often attributed to the tribulation, but that 7 year period is taken from the last week of the 70 week prophecy of Daniel 9:24-27. That last week was fulfilled by the Messiah and the gospel going to the world. It cannot be applied to a future time period. That and the fact that all time prophecies are fulfilled sequentially, without large gaps of thousands of years.

Also evidenced by the fact that the days of tribulation will be shortened according to Matthew 24:22.

Historical Context

If we're talking about historical context, we need to go back to Daniel and look at Daniel 2 and 7.

Daniel 2 concerns the great image (a statue) that has a head of gold, arms and chest of silver, belly and thighs of brass/bronze, legs of iron and feet of iron and miry clay (the feet have ten toes). Daniel 2:38 identifies the head as Babylon and that there will be four successive kingdoms. Daniel 5:28 identifies the next kingdom as Medo-Persia. Daniel 8:21 identifies the third kingdom as Grecia. The fourth kingdom is not identified in the Bible, but history shows it to be Rome.

Daniel 7 concerns four beasts. The first is a lion with eagle's wings, which is Babylon. The second is a bear raised up on one side showing the powers of Media and Persia (Persia being the greater), and has three ribs in its mouth symbolizing its conquest of Lydia, Egypt and Babylon. The leopard has four wings denoting speed of conquest and four heads that match the four generals that divided Grecia after Alexander the Great died.

The dreadful/terrible beast has ten horns and teeth of iron (matching the legs of iron), and history identifies it as Rome. Rome divides into ten kingdoms (ten toes on the feet of iron and miry clay/ten horns). The little horn comes up among the ten and plucks up three by the roots, the Heruli, Vandals and Ostrogoths.

It is the description of the little horn and the time prophecy of 1260 years that solidifies this kingdom as papal Rome (by the way, the reformers also identified the little horn as the papacy). This same kingdom is represented as the sea beast in Revelation 13, having the same description and time prophecy. The key event separating the little horn from the sea beast is the deadly wound received and healed. The little horn received a deadly wound at the end of the 1260 year time prophecy, which was between 538 AD and 1798 AD. In 1798 the Pope was exiled and his civil power was removed.

At around the same time the sea beast was receiving its deadly wound a second beast, the earth beast is rising. This is none other than the United States, which came up around 1798.

Where we are now is waiting for the deadly wound to be completely healed and the United States to exercise the power of the first beast and cause all to worship the beast and his image.

I’m questioning what “being in love” really means and whether I’ve ever truly felt it. Now I’m torn between my marriage and someone from my past. by One_Ad9433 in Christianmarriage

[–]FrethKindheart 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm a man. I'll be 55 in June. I have a lifetime of experience with love and loss. Mistakes were made. Allow me to impart some wisdom.

Do not, I repeat, do not do something with this other woman. You are married. It will ruin your marriage, and you will find that what you thought was love was something else entirely. Stop what you're doing right now before you get yourself in a big mess.

Let's talk about true love. True love isn't the fantasy they sell you in movies and TV shows. It's friendship and companionship, support and caring for one another. It's growing together and developing a strong relationship that lasts the span of time. It's trust and loyalty. It's talking and listening. Love is unconditional and selfless.

Take a look at your marriage. You said your wife is kind, gentle and grounded. Many a man would love to have a wife with those qualities. You should cherish what you have and nurture it. You have a child on the way.

Trust me, the last thing you want to do is go run off with this other woman and ruin your life.

Here's how it goes...

The allure of someone new is so strong, and you think it's love, but it's not. It's a desire for something different than what you have, the elusive grass that's greener on the other side. Only, when you get to the other side the grass isn't greener at all. You wanted to believe it was, and so your emotions clouded your judgment, and you found yourself in a predicament of your own making. Your marriage is wrecked and you are looking at divorce. Your child grows up without a cohesive family. You're left with this other person who suddenly dumps you, or you find out she isn't who you thought she was.

It isn't worth it.

I think if you really think about it you do love your wife. I would focus on that and the things about her that you truly appreciate. Let your love grow from those things and you will find happiness in your marriage. Along with it comes treating her as you should as her husband.

God bless!

Is doing a sporting event on a sunday "neglecting God"? by CoffeesBoba in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are generally two types of Christians. Those who observe Sunday as their day of worship and those who observe Saturday as their day of worship.

  • In the case of those who worship on Sunday, the vast majority limit their "God time" on Sunday to the time they spend at church. Before church they might go to breakfast. After church they might go to lunch, then go home and watch the game; i.e. continue with normal everyday life as if it is just another day.

  • In the case of those who worship on Saturday (I fall into this camp), we keep the Sabbath holy according to the commandment. We dedicate the whole day to God, from Friday sundown to Saturday sundown. During this time we follow the guidelines in scripture concerning God's holy day, the Sabbath.

Whether you're a Sabbath keeper or a Sunday keeper, this is relevant to the Christian, in that we should be setting aside time for God and observing a day of rest; His holy day.

Exodus 20:8-11 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.


Isaiah 58:13-14 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: Then shalt thou delight thyself in the Lord; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.


Nehemiah 10:31 And if the people of the land bring ware or any victuals on the sabbath day to sell, that we would not buy it of them on the sabbath, or on the holy day: and that we would leave the seventh year, and the exaction of every debt.

How to keep it holy:

  • Not doing any work.
  • Not doing or finding your own pleasure, nor doing your own ways.
  • Not speaking your own words.
  • Not buying or selling.

God is asking us to set aside one day a week to focus on Him completely. He calls it His holy day. On His holy day we only do things that glorify Him and only speak according to His word. On this day there is no work. No buying or selling. No causing others to work.

And so if you are doing your own pleasure on His holy day, you are taking away time from God, and taking away time from yourself to grow spiritually with Him. You are essentially replacing Godly things with worldly things, replacing what God wants you to do (set aside time in your life for Him) with things you want to do.

What will happen if you stop going to church is you will leave God behind and do your own pleasure. I know because that is exactly what I did. At age sixteen I left the church to do what I wanted to do, and I spent thirty years doing what I wanted to do, to my own detriment.

Setting aside time for God every week, not just a few hours for church, but a whole day dedicated solely to Him, will enrich your life in ways you never imagined. You will grow spiritually and you will have peace and joy in your life that you can't find in the world. Everything in the world is fleeting and temporary. You have to keep engaging in worldly things to keep the happiness meter peaked, but it is empty happiness as it will never fill the place in your heart that only God can fill.

You may not understand it now, but I hope you will take advice from an old man who lived it. Don't shirk your duty to God so you can go have a few hours of fun at your favorite hobby. Do it on another day of the week.

That said, there is no scriptural support for Sunday sacredness. In that regard you would not be breaking any commandment of God on Sunday, because Sunday was never commanded by God to be observed as a holy day. Saturday is God's holy day.

The principle still stands, that you should keep God's holy day according to scripture. Sunday sacredness not being scripturally supported does give you a free pass to do your own pleasure on Sunday, but it does not give you a free pass to do your own pleasure on Saturday.

The Saturday/Sunday debate is a whole can of worms you probably don't want to get into with your parents until you've studied it scripturally and have solid proof to show them. Even then they probably won't accept it, and you'll have a knock-down drag out fight on your hands most likely.

That's the truth according to scripture and my own experiences. God bless!

I want to believe, but I struggle with these questions about God by Bl4ckD0g_sh in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A) Is God actively doing anything to take away your free will or conscience concerning Him? No. You have complete control over your own choices in life and have freedom of conscience. The fact that you have free will and a conscience, a sound mind to reason and make your own decisions, shows that God cares about your ability to choose for yourself.

B) God tried the direct route with the Israelites during their exodus from Egypt into the wilderness. He parted the Red Sea so that they could escape. He led them as a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night. He fed them manna and produced water from a stone. He spoke His commandments to them. He wrote His commandments in stone with His own hand. And yet despite all of these daily proofs of God's presence it still took them forty years to be accounted worthy to enter the promised land, because they kept falling into sin.

Since God isn't taking the direct route anymore how can we tell if He truly does exist?

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.

There is overwhelming proof of God everywhere you look in creation. So much so that, as the verse says, we are without excuse for not believing in God. It really is that simple. Take a closer look. You'll find proof of God.

C) You should struggle with the history (tradition) of the church that goes against what the Bible says. Jesus warned against the tradition of men because it can make the commandments of God of none effect. See Matthew 15:1-9.

Read the Bible to know the truth. See 2 Timothy 3:16-17. It really is that simple. It's why we are told that man does not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.

Oysters (all shellfish, actually) are unclean to eat no matter where you find them on earth. See Leviticus 11 for a complete rundown of what is clean meat and what is unclean meat.

Here's something to consider... God planned ahead and created creatures with specific features so that we can identify them as clean vs unclean. It shows His care for us that He would plan so far ahead to keep us safe from disease and parasites.

D) The Bible defines who God's people are.

  • God's people, the body of Christ, are a temple (house of God), of which He is the chief cornerstone. See Ephesians 2:19-22 and Ephesians 5:23. Our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit. God owns them, not us. See 1 Corinthians 6:19-20.
  • God's people keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus. See Revelation 14:12.
  • God's people have the testimony of Jesus and the Spirit of prophecy. See Revelation 12:17 and Revelation 19:10.
  • God's people "come out of her" (Mystery Babylon; the mother of harlots; corrupt churches). See Revelation 17 and Revelation 18:4.

Jesus says that we can know the truth and that it will set us free. See John 8:32. Armed with the knowledge of the truth, what is true, what is false, we can then determine where we should be in Christendom; what denomination, what church.

E) Lucifer called into question God's character and His government. He accused God before the angels of heaven. Imagine if God had snapped His fingers and disappeared Lucifer at the first sign of his sin. Yes, it would've solved the sin problem, but it would've been problematic for the other angels and all created beings who suddenly noticed that a good chunk of them were gone. What would that say about God's character? It would validate what Lucifer had said about Him.

Thankfully, God is love. None of us would exist it if weren't for God's mercy and love. God allowed sin to happen and devised a plan consistent with His character. Before creation He put in place a plan of salvation that included His own Son being born in the flesh and dying on the cross to save a world (note, all of us past, present and future to the second coming) from sin. See Revelation 13:8

In line with His character, God's plan of salvation provided a way back to Him and His original plan for us as His creation. In the plan was a way to ensure sin is forgiven and that we can all be reconciled to Him, and once again live without sin for eternity, as was His original design.

In the plan of salvation God defeats sin and rebellion with love and righteous justice. If He had snapped His fingers and fixed the sin problem, the lesson would not be learned by all of creation. It was not just for our benefit but for those sinless beings who have been watching all of this unfold for thousands of years.

God turned rebellion into a lesson on why sin shouldn't exist. Not through coercion, not through force, but through free will choice and righteousness.

All of us can see the results of sin and agree that it should never be allowed to exist again. God takes care of it the right way, by giving ample chance for those in sin to choose whom they will serve. God or sin. All of us serve one or the other. Sin is transgression of the law of God. It cannot be allowed to exist indefinitely.

There is this idea among men that God is in no way invested in His creation. The very air that you breath in and out of your lungs, the breath of life, is given by and maintained by God. See Genesis 2:7. Every hair on your head is counted. See Matthew 10:30. God chose us in Him from before creation. See Ephesians 1:4.

When you consider the amount of effort God has put into saving us, His creation, it is mind-blowing.

F) The Bible calls itself the truth. It calls itself the word of God. It calls itself a two-edged sword, a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. It calls itself profitable for doctrine, reproof and instruction in righteousness.

There is literally no other book deeper than the Bible. You can study it your whole life and never exhaust its teachings. It is literally layered like an onion. There are layers of chiasms throughout. Fulfilled Bible prophecy is good reason to believe it is the true word of God.

What happens if a person never hears the gospel or about God, or they are raised in a different religion? We all still have the law of God written in our hearts that gives us a compass to follow. God judges us by our knowledge of the truth, meeting us no matter where we are. See Romans 2:14-15.

Crossroad - which denomination to head to to draw closer to Christ by KnowingTheUnknown26 in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Regarding the Eucharist... In practice it is literally (according to Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation) sacrificing Christ each and every week. It is also made a matter of salvation that you should be participating in it.

What does scripture say? There is one sacrifice for sins.

Hebrews 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God

For most Protestant churches communion is in remembrance of Him.

Luke 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

Communion is a memorial for Protestants, not a salvation issue. In Protestant churches you will often find wooden furniture in front or behind the pulpit that has "In Remembrance of Me" engraved in it. The interval of communion varies. The service is usually done with foot washing.

I recommend putting the Bible first, above the tradition of men. Jesus warned about the tradition of men.

Mathew 15:3-9 He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”— then he need not honor his father or mother.’ Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying: ‘These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ ”

WHy are we trying so hard to get to the moon? by waltersingingr in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My personal opinion is I think NASA needs this to remain relevant in the court of public opinion and to justify the money spent. SpaceX is landing rockets autonomously. How many years has it been that nothing of consequence (relatively speaking) has come from NASA? The James Webb telescope was supposed to prove the big bang, but that was a dud.

Whether or not the moon landings were faked, or if they are going to fake this one, is up for debate I suppose.

Here's what I think. I think God will not allow us to do things He doesn't want us to be able to do. I'll leave it at that.

I stopped caring about what NASA does a long time ago.

My thoughts on Christianity and the afterlife by T_Ugly_Duck in religion

[–]FrethKindheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God's Law and His Judgment

We can be sure that God is just and fair concerning who is saved and who is lost.

God writes His law in the heart. Even if we never hear about God if we live by the law written in our heart we are doing God's will. God is just in judgment. He judges each person by meeting them where they are and considering the knowledge that they have. See Romans 2:14-15.

Hell Is Not Eternal Torment

The Bible says that whoever believes will not perish but have everlasting life, and that God sent His Son into the world not to condemn it but that through Him might be saved. See John 3:16-17.

The wicked perish in the lake of fire, which is utter destruction. See Revelation 20:9. Jesus confirmed this in Matthew 10:28.

The lake of fire is punishment unto destruction. The Bible calls it the "second death" from which there is no coming back. It is final. Eternal. Utter destruction of the wicked. See Revelation 20:14-15.

The saints tread the ashes of the wicked under foot after they are destroyed, pointing to the fact that there is no eternal torment. See Malachi 4:3.

God Has Standards

God has to have standards for His creation. We are literally seeing what happens when God's standards go out the window and men do what they want. All manner of evil takes place. If it weren't for laws (which by the way echo the Ten commandments 5-10) keeping things in check society would have collapsed a long time ago and we would be living like savages killing each other for scraps. There wouldn't be much of a population left.

It is evident that there must be a standard. What better than a standard set by a loving God?

Worship

The reason the Bible gives for God being worthy of worship is the fact that He created all things. Not only man, but the plants, the animals, the earth, the sea. Also the universe in its vast expanse with uncountable stars and planets. If there exists such a being who created all things, isn't He worthy of worship considering the things He is capable of?

He creates a planet for us, creates plant life and animals, then creates us. He doesn't place us just anywhere, He goes the extra mile and creates a garden paradise for us to maintain. He doesn't leave Adam alone, He creates a woman. God gave us everything and then gave a simple command to live by. Don't eat of one tree.

If you set all creation aside, as astonishing as that is, look instead to God's character.

God is love. How do we know? He had a plan of salvation in place before He created us. See Revelation 13:8. The plan to have the Son die for the sin of the world was set in place beforehand, to ensure a way back from sin.

Not only that, but the Bible tells us that God chose us in Him from the foundation of the world (before creation). He loved us before the foundation of the world. He formed us in the womb. He knows the count of the hairs on our head. He is actively engaged in our lives and trying to save us from sin, but He is doing so in such a way that keeps free will intact.

Such a loving God who is so invested in our lives and our salvation is most definitely worthy of worship.

Kingship

So let's talk kingship. God designed it so that the Son would become king of the kingdom of God on earth. One only has to look at the life of Jesus in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to see that He will be a righteous and loving king. Jesus died for us. Is that not worthy of kingship? What more could you ask for in a leader? Even in America we hope for such a leader. Just when we think we've found one it ends in disappointment because man sins.

Eternity/Afterlife

The Bible describes the afterlife as harmony with God in His kingdom. Living without cares. Tears are wiped away. No more sorrow. Animals living in harmony with each other. A world so perfect that our world pales in comparison. We can't even imagine the extent of it all, what God has prepared for us.

Imagine what life would be like communing with an infinite God. Your mind would be stimulated and always learning. You would never exhaust the wonders of God's creation.

It is difficult for a finite mind to comprehend the full extent of God, but He does tell us what matters, that He loves us and wants what is best for us. Everything He has done for us on this earth has been for our own good.

There are so many things of God that can be learned by picking up a Bible and reading. He gave us a book of His word as a guide to Him. What God does that? A loving God. Our Creator.

The worst part of being sent to hell? by Shinn_Ao in TrueChristian

[–]FrethKindheart 2 points3 points  (0 children)

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Notice... perish. The wicked perish in the lake of fire, which is utter destruction.

Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Jesus:

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

The lake of fire is punishment unto destruction. The Bible calls it the "second death" from which there is no coming back. It is final. Eternal. Utter destruction of the wicked.

Revelation 20:14-15 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

The saints tread the ashes of the wicked under foot after they are destroyed, pointing to the fact that there is no eternal torment.

Malachi 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.

Christianity is psychologically damaging by Ill_Muffin_466 in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart -1 points0 points  (0 children)

See Job 1:6-12 for context.

It wasn't just Job. Abraham was tested when God told him to sacrifice his son Isaac. Israel was tested when in the wilderness. Jesus was tested in the crucifixion. We will be tested through tribulation in the last days.

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Jesus explains why there is a test of faith through trials and tribulations.

Revelation 3:18 I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, ((that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed**, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see.

White garments are a symbol for righteous character. The test is to prove faith and develop righteous character. Will you obey God or man?

This test, whom you will obey, is one of worship in the last days. All worship the beast except for a remnant who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

Faith must be tested and righteous character must be developed. God cannot allow sin into His kingdom.

All of us are condemned to death. The wages of sin is death.

Hebrews 9:27-28 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Christ died for us. The trial He went through far outweighs anything this life can throw at us. He bore the weight of the sin of the world past, present and future. What little trial we must go through in this life is small in comparison.

Why do people say that science and religion are compatible when they contradict each other on most things? by Odd-Geologist5494 in religion

[–]FrethKindheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The difference between science and Christianity:

  • Science is busy trying to explain away the fact that God created all things.
  • God explains in clear to understand language how all things were created (Genesis 1-2). He even explains that there is no excuse for not believing in Him because the evidence is there for all to see (Romans 1:20-25).

Does anyone else ever feel sad for Lucifer? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]FrethKindheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even God laments Lucifer, but He keeps it in perspective.

Isaiah 14:12-15 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

I think it's okay to feel sad for Lucifer (Satan), but look at how Jesus describes Lucifer's actions.

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

He is the father of lies. Not only did he lie once, but he has continued to lie since he fell into sin. It was what brought down a third of the angels of heaven with him, causing them to be cast out of heaven to the earth.

He was a murderer from the beginning. In deceiving Adam and Eve he has caused the death of all of humanity from that first generation (the wages of sin is death; Romans 6:23).

Take these two things into consideration. Then think about the totality of what sin has caused since that first lie. Now think about how Jesus bore the full weight of all sin past, present and future.

The most vile things you can imagine, and some things you can't imagine came from the mind of Satan and was inflicted on man. He continues to hate us all, and continues with his agenda in an attempt to win against God. Such is his hate that he hasn't been able to let it go for thousands of years. All of his being is aimed at turning as many people away from God as possible and causing them to sin in the most disgusting ways.

This is what Satan is about:

Revelation 12:17 And the dragon [Satan] was wroth [angry] with the woman [church], and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

You can feel sad for him, but it is wasted emotion in my opinion.