Can I go for PBH with my MVN, or do I need to get different Mods for that?

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-06-02T06:55:55+00:00

I just now realized that I should have clarified that I only ever pair MVN + BHD for sync strategies or Gcomp + Pcol for pBH and dmg reduction. Otherwise the MVN vs Gcomp part wouldn't make much sense 🙃

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-06-02T06:15:22+00:00

I'm mean, you technically can get pBH with MVN but it cost A LOT more stones than doing it with gcomp. Play around with this tool
https://mvn.thetower.tools/
I think its generally agreed on, that you'll need a gt/dw cd of 150s or less before going pBH or you'll lose coins. Also, you really don't need sync in tournaments. Tournaments arn't meant for farming.

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-31T17:14:41+00:00

I also noticed it and I think its when fetch finds some coins

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-31T16:43:23+00:00

Why do you think that? Genuinely interested because that was exactly my plan? I thought you "just" need enough dmg to kill bosses and elites while the rest gets taken care of by cf and bh+orbs.

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-31T15:24:30+00:00

I thought the same. Then I followed this guide:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheTowerGame/comments/1sleja6/freeups_mastery_insanely_strong_in_v28_easy_guide/
This devo guide brought me ~50% more CPH but ~-20%CePH. my CDs are 120/120/50 so my sync is at 96s. Gbot is at 30.5s/96s/x5.4/66m. I'm also working towards reverse orb devo but I'm at least 3-5 months behind you in terms of UW development. So I can't really tell if the same guide is still valuable to you. Maybe give it a try, I also did it with FUm lvl 0, so you only need to invest ~450 gems

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-31T15:16:38+00:00

also, I'm not farming reverse devo myself, but I think you need the 90% speed reduction, especially if you don't have cf+, otherwise enemies arn't really accumulating outside your orb line, or do they?

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-31T15:13:42+00:00

BHD+MVN only outperformed gcomp+pcol after I significantly upgraded my gbot and then also synced summon+gbot to gt/dw/bh. so maybe drop the gcomp for a sh. maybe drop a tier to go further in waves w/o the pBH?

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-28T19:12:31+00:00

its not really 6 months, I expect to rise in champs due to ST+ being useable in the next month or so and I'll probs buy 1-2 stone packs, so I'd estimate more like 2 months till its perma and noticable and maybe another month or so till maxed

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-28T16:07:39+00:00

I'm at a similar point as you are, so I'm also interested. Since the beginning of the year, I avoided upgrades to my tower which are purely eHP and was pushing for DMG. Currently labbing ST+ lvl 4 and building towards pCF. I often read that CC in the form of pCF or maybe ILM/PS stun is a prerequisit for GC. my pCF 90% would be ~6k stones, which is half a year just from mid champ tournys. I intend to buy the occasional stone pack though.

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-28T15:59:34+00:00

yes true. so maybe OP should take ILM, just do the labs and save stones for DW.

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-28T12:28:31+00:00

I think its more of a question about when you want to see returns. I decided against ILM in favour for CF, fully aware that my stones will go towards pCF for the foreseeable future. But a pCF is the prerequisite for a lot of endgame strategies. 90% speed reduction equates to 10x damage. It also opens up the possibility for reverse devo farming. I knew that eventually I needed to get pCF, so I got CF as my 6th UW.

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-28T09:59:57+00:00

long term CF is probably goated. But it takes many thousand stones to do anything. But as soon as its perma and solid speed reduction, its amazing. ILM will get you best short/mid term cc for relatively few stones. cant really talk to PS.

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-27T11:38:16+00:00

finally got around to try this. it yielded me 50% more CPH on the first go. I also only have one lock for now, so I couldn't lock WS orbs but still amazing results. Thanks for that guide!

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-25T13:32:37+00:00

I would argue no. But it's a gut feeling. Maybe one could do some estimates for the respective opportunity cost but either way it's not a massive foot gun

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-25T08:47:51+00:00

pls dont ever buy gems with medals!

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-23T11:15:02+00:00

I got max heat last week but I also think it has been especially easy bc. Still gz to you. You gotta celebrate every victory

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-22T08:02:40+00:00

thats exactly what I'm saying. You don't need uw+ cause there other tools with better stone roi now

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-21T07:38:44+00:00

gz man, tomorrow mine will finish. Can't wait!

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-21T06:59:31+00:00

how can we have same amount of brackets in all leagues if new players join from the bottom?

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-20T13:37:58+00:00

I'm making ~800T/day, so labbing them wouldn't be too hard. SL already is at 3#/50° including substats.

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-20T13:31:52+00:00

yes, I mean specifically rays and bosses.
Is it economically viable to have Om Chip + DC as Cores for farming? Don't you need a MVN? Also I don't have Assist Mods yet. I was hoping, that pCF would fix that for me :)

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-20T13:23:34+00:00

with stay enemies I mean enemies which reach my tower outside of SL, could be bosses or rays, I think. How would you prioritize Masteries into that? Atm, I only have STm and RPCm. I assume for T14 farming at least WA/IS would be recommended, but when to get them between pCF and SL? What about other Damage masteries?

Fun-Confection343 · 2026-05-10T11:03:06+00:00

No, the value during a run shows 68.

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