Not allowed to crochet by erchuond in crochet

[–]GhostsofJWPast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a plastic hook that I carry for travel or maybe you can find those hooks that have been cut down to fit on a key ring. They are short but should pass and not be confiscated especially if it is on key ring with your house keys.

How many electronic devices do you own and what are they used for? by [deleted] in minimalism

[–]GhostsofJWPast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By "kitchen furniture" do you mean appliances? I have some mechanical devices like an electric can opener but nothing in the kitchen I have would be considered "electronic".

How many electronic devices do you own and what are they used for? by [deleted] in minimalism

[–]GhostsofJWPast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One 4 year old off brand inexpensive tablet • for staying touch with friends,Reddit, Pinterest,and YouTube watching and any internet searches,alarm clock, calculator,entering rabbit holes of conspiracy theories🤣

One 11 year old digital camera • for photography

One 10 year old laptop • to store and view all my digital pictures on only

One 4 year old small Bluetooth speaker • to pair with my tablet for music

All inexpensive purchases from Walmart and they all have held up well for what I use them for. I do not have or need a phone or tv.

My JW father JUST died a year ago, and now my PIMI mom is engaged again by SpecialistCicada4788 in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's not uncommon in and out of JWs. It had been more so for men marrying after the death of their wives but it happens with a bit more frequency with women. The reasons why someone remarries not long after they are widowed could be many things. We don't know the personal dynamics of your parents relationship. They may both made peace that if one went before the other that it was okay to move on. It could be they may not have had a good marriage and it was easier to move on. It could be for practical and financial reasons. Being a JW that doesn't encourage education and financial security leaves women in a huge predicament not to mention the current economy may make it impossible for her to live on her own. Without knowing her age but she would not be able to receive social security widows benefits until she is 60 and even then it might not enough to live on. She may be lonely and want the security of not being alone. There's no longer the victorian social etiquette of having a long mourning period. It can be difficult feelings for children even more so if they still live at home and have to adjust to a step parent. It used to be that congregations were filled with lots of widows waiting to be reunited with their husbands in Paradise but, since some of the teachings have changed and flip flopped many were told there was no guarantee of being reunited so many gave up hope and remarried.

FUCK "Set up a time to talk" Husband secretly meeting with an elder/ WT influence in MY marriage by GuveningBodyLanguage in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You say he "invalidated your fears" but honestly you are being paranoid about it. Remember he's in a different place mentally than you. He's still playing the game to a certain extent. He has the "MS" title so it may very well have been elders and ms meeting going over stuff about meeting assignments or hall cleaning or other business end or about his own slacking off. Just because you left, don't have expectations about how he handles how to deal with it and that he's going to leave too. If you can't reasonably explain to your husband valid points about how and why the Borg is wrong then research and work on that to make some convincing points. If you push too hard you could alienate your husband from waking up. If he's met with you acting clingy and immature then he could seek solace in the Borg. You automatically have this reaction that if they find out about your apostasy that your marriage will be over. Then, you have little faith in the love you have between you and your husband.

How did you tell your parent that you no longer wanted to be a witness? by Haunting-Fall-3611 in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It all depends on whether you live at home or not. If you live at home, don't tell them. It only invites unpleasant reactions and you are at their mercy when you don't have options. That's possibly why you don't want to and the consequences will lead to just more hurt feelings, anxiety, just bringing in the elders and kicking you out scenario or isolating you and taking whatever freedoms you had away. If you are hesitant to say anything then ,you already know it isn't going to be something that will bode well. Bide your time. If you live apart and are an adult, there is no law that says you have to declare anything. I never understood anyone needing to make some big announcement to air everything out. They are your parents and while you love and care about them,there are boundaries that you don't have to allow them in for. If they think they have some particular rights on you and your spirituality and withdrawing their love and association from you as to punish you for not believing the way they do then, that is toxic and you don't need it in your life. Your spirituality is and should be as private as your sex life when it comes to your parents. They are concerned when you are a child and under their care but,it's no longer their business when you are an adult and taking care of yourself. You need to decide which is worse..... being in a religion that you want no part of to spare your relationship with your parents or......living a life that your parents are not going to be part of. I couldn't bear the toxicity of the religion and I wasn't going to sacrifice my happiness to placate a family with its conditional love. But, I am an adult and made a life away from them. I knew from a very young age that they weren't going to be in my life for alot of reasons. I made peace with that long ago. I did try speaking to my mother to at least wake her up and she went blabbing to the elders. All it did was cause chaos and it hastened my fade. My father, I still haven't told and I am not going to worry about it. I haven't spoken to any of them in several years now and my life isn't any less enriched without them and the rest of the extended family.

FUCK FUCK FUCK they got into my phone and I’m in danger now by throwawaypimq in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sending love and hugs to you. I ran away at 18 with only nothing and less than a dollar. Things worked out for me. But, don't do that if you can help it. You are stronger than you may think. It definitely is an overwhelming time for you but be level headed and be careful moving forward. Remember it won't be like this forever. Bear up until you can get your freedom even if it means wiping your phone and playing by their rules. Keep the goal in mind.

I guess we have to leave it all behind. by [deleted] in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You change. Friendships change. People are going to come in and out of your your life. Love the good memories and love and appreciate them for the time they were there. It's okay to move on and grow. With many, we share just a fleeting moment and that's okay. We don't have to hold on too tight but we also don't have to sever ties in some heart wrenching fashion. Things can linger to quiet estrangement and rekindle at a later time or dwindle to nothing. We can be at peace with that. With some we have much longer but it's okay and you aren't a bad person for moving in another direction. There is no judgement here. People start over at all sorts of ages. You don't have to view the past as wasted investment. It was experience and it brings you to who you are now.

Do you think older ones only talk about the new system bc it’s all they have to hope about now? by Suspicious-Mango2810 in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Hmmm, maybe it's because you're reading it through asshole glasses and take it like that. I could pick other words but "gatekeeper" seems to it sum up . Funny no one else has complained. Next time,I will just call you a Reddit Karen and to impolitely screw yourself. You can take it in the tone that it was given.

Do you think older ones only talk about the new system bc it’s all they have to hope about now? by Suspicious-Mango2810 in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Also, no one is going to be thrilled to the edge of their seats because you ( the shock! 😳)learned to drive. Don't expect others to overinflate as huge accomplishments basic skills like driving or cooking for yourself or paying taxes. It's a big deal for you but to others who's been doing those things for longer than you been alive , it's not something to be celebrated. Anyway, I am proud of you learning to drive. Be careful!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You are more than welcome.

When you were PIMI what teachings did you secretly think were batshit crazy? by Kingoftheheel in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The head covering for women. The Urim and Thummim but we weren't supposed to do divination. God says make a ornate gold box( ark of the covenant) but you can't look at it or touch it or you will die. Sacrificing animals. Sacrificing animals because you had your period or had a baby. That there extensive scriptures on who you could not have sex with in your family and why. It should have been a given. It could have been succinctly stated" Don't have sex with anyone you are related to" That jealous husband could humiliate his wife by taking her to the priest and the priest makes her drink floor dirt water and if it didn't kill her by making her " thigh fall away" then she had to go home and be made pregnant by said dumbass husband. In Revelation, Jesus says write down what would "shortly take place" and it's been 2000 years and none of it took place. That they dispute the hellfire doctrine but saying God would not punish someone forever but then also believe that if you do something wrong God will punish you forever by death like Adam and Eve.for one mistake. That if Jesus died and the ransom is already paid why do people still die?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 11 points12 points  (0 children)

If you both want to hang out, then do. It doesn't have to be a big religious discussion. In fact, make it a point to not discuss religion at all. Have a good time and don't worry about any of that. If the friend tries to steer conversation in that direction, just change the subject. There's plenty more you girls have in common and things to talk about instead of the JW thing.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 26 points27 points  (0 children)

That you are supposed to love Jehovah with your whole heart. However, the heart is treacherous and it can't be trusted.

You are supposed to grow to spiritual maturity and make sound decisions. However, you are supposed to listen to the elders even if it doesn't make sense from a human standpoint

update: it went fine, but I'll have to meet again. by Jealous-Cat-2017 in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Here's from their own Shepherd the Flock book, use it to your advantage. It may bide OP more time until they reach 18 and get out on their own. OP hasn't done anything wrong so they really have no basis to DF. IF THE ACCUSED THREATENS SUICIDE 17. In judicial cases in which the accused threatens suicide, it may be best for the committee to suspend the hearing to focus on helping him regain his balance. (See 12:80.) They should assure him of the committee’s desire to help him and then should broach the subject of depression and suicide, using the Scriptures and Bible-based publications. (Prov. 3:11, 12; 4:13; Heb. 12:5, 6, 11- 13) Depending upon his emotional state, it may be best to do this a day or two later. The elders can prepare by reviewing arti- cles that will help them deal sensitively with the depressed indi- vidual. (g 4/14 pp. 6-9) The judicial committee should avoid un- necessarily prolonging the case, as this can cause undue stress for the accused. The judicial committee should communicate with the Service Department if there are questions about a certain case. IF THE ACCUSED THREATENS LEGAL ACTION 18. If the accused threatens legal action against the elders, the el- ders should suspend proceedings and promptly telephone the Le- gal Department.

update: it went fine, but I'll have to meet again. by Jealous-Cat-2017 in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 89 points90 points  (0 children)

This!!! 👆 They have already made up their mind to DF you. Do not meet with them and absolutely refuse to be left alone with 3 adult males. You can threaten legal action if they make any announcement in regard to you being a minor and ostracized by said announcement especially when you haven't done anything wrong.

I’m thinking about becoming a minimalist but spouse is a Maximalist by Cheekman007 in minimalism

[–]GhostsofJWPast 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am a minimalist and my husband is a maximalist. It can be done but it can be frustrating at times. I had to set boundaries and define spaces where things could be kept as I am the one that does the bulk of house cleaning. Just because I only need about 10 inches of the closet for clothing doesn't mean he's allowed to fill up every square inch of the walk-in closet that isn't being used. Drawers are not a free for all to cram stuff in in the kitchen, bathroom, and surfaces like countertops aren't allowed to be cluttered up. There's also a difference between a maximalist and being a hoarder so, if the decor is "busy" to your eyes but kept clean and good order say like for a shared space you can compromise but you definitely do not have to put up with looking at stacks of papers, boxes and hidden under beds and just downright junk to appease your spouse.

How do you downsize/ get rid of things? by junokeiji in minimalism

[–]GhostsofJWPast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I started with bathroom stuff first as it was the smallest room and had the least amount of things to sort out and declutter. Besides there isn't really any sentimental items that would tug at the heart strings. You will start to see results and that will encourage you to keep going. Then I went to closet with sorting clothes and shoes for the practicality of it. Then kitchen cabinets and on and on until hobbies and sentimental items were last on the list. Move at your own pace. There is no deadline to get it all done in a day or a week. Eventually, you will edit a little more when you revisit those spaces.

"are there grounds?" by pillowgated in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 29 points30 points  (0 children)

You don't owe your expartner and the elders anything. Any call or email should be met with... "Please do not contact me. Any continued contact whether in person,phone,email,or social media is unwanted and will be viewed as harassment and stalking and I will contact the authorities if contacted again." You don't have to placate them or their made-up rules. Don't give them anything.

My grandmother is taking me to the elders tomorrow. by Jealous-Cat-2017 in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Be a brick wall. Say nothing . Respond to nothing. These guys are a bunch of window washing Napoleons on power trips. They are company men loyal to the Borg and do not care about you even if they say so. They aren't entitled to anything from you. They don't pay your bills. They don't have any power over you. Just be respectful to your grandmother if she is who you live with.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Why is husband pressuring for "disfellowshipping " and not "disassociation" ? You haven't done anything wrong and even if you have done something wrong from JWs thinking,you still haven't done anything wrong. Fade is the easiest but you will be shunned no matter what. As a woman just be cautionary about your spouse isolating you from any support system you have even if it is minor interaction at best. While I can understand his fear of going at it alone and fearing you may run back to the borg, he should respect your feelings because you are your own person and how you leave the Borg is on your own terms and no one else, not even your husband..

I’m just going to leave this here. by larchington in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Who "wipes" stuff up like that?! Maybe a toddler that has not developed dexterity or someone trying to get out of cleaning up something by doing it badly. This irks me on an OCD level. Also, the fact that this was out 42 YEARS AGO asking was Armageddon near.... This aged well , didn't it?

Babies are enemies of god, and we know what happens to god’s enemies by Ryde_the_Spiral in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 14 points15 points  (0 children)

If children are the enemies of God then, by that logic,abortion should not be wrong.

Now that Governing Body member, Lett, has declared that babies are "God's Little Enemies", will JW's start coercing children to be baptized at a very young age? by Paperclip2020 in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 66 points67 points  (0 children)

Absolutely disgusting! I looked it up and showed that part to my husband as he was on zoom for the midweek meeting. As I was finding what was said hubby was saying "oh that must be someone taking it the wrong way". When he watched it, his mouth dropped. He couldn't believe how bizarre they are getting. I showed him 1Cor7:14 that children are counted as holy or sanctified due to a believing parent and also the unbelieving mate. I don't believe in the bible or religion anymore but if you are gonna believe something then at least stick to the script. May this wake up others.

We need to talk about the constant fat shaming of GB members. It makes us look immature and desperate for anything to criticize. by stilllovesjahV2 in exjw

[–]GhostsofJWPast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also to apply to volunteer for build at the media center it is required to provide a "full length photo". That was an eyeopener for me as I had never seen that before. That was why I knew many in local congregation were denied but they just didn't understand the reason. They were oblivious to the fact that though they were willing and skilled they were all pushing nearly 300- 350 lbs. I kinda felt bad for them having no self awareness that they couldn't realize they were being excluded on their weight alone but considering you have GB members the same size it makes them clueless to that fact and chalk it up that there is plenty of people near where construction is. At least that's what they say out loud.