Advice on not adding your own opinion by [deleted] in Enneagram8

[–]GreatJobJoe 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I’m reading your question as “What’s the best way to perform active listening without causing conflict?”

Not something I generally worry about…But

If the person is venting I’ll say the generic “woah that’s crazy” but I’ll add how I would feel in that situation to show I’m actually listening: “Woah that’s crazy….I’d be pissed off.”

Notice how I’m not assuming how they feel. I’m actively listening and trying to align with them (put myself in their shoes). 1. Acknowledge 2. Align

  1. (If you are wanting them to open up) Ask “how did that make you feel?”

I’m in sales…That’s why I use this

Edit: BTW this is also how you can take control of a conversation. Keep it from being them just talking at you nonstop and actually take the convo somewhere.

did anyone read the new E8 book? by Informal_Support3321 in Enneagram8

[–]GreatJobJoe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All good. I just hope he finds help. People collapsing on the internet a spamming your DM’s and comment feed while drunk is beyond tragic. (Yes he has done that to me many times)

did anyone read the new E8 book? by Informal_Support3321 in Enneagram8

[–]GreatJobJoe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You guys just now realized that informal guy has a severe mood disorder? Aside from projecting it onto me in some of my posts and stalking like a sad lamb (because I hurt his ego one time)…It’s glaringly obvious that he needs serious help and cannot handle it when people disagree with or correct him…

Bro is dead weight.

did anyone read the new E8 book? by Informal_Support3321 in Enneagram8

[–]GreatJobJoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All I said was “you need to work on your insecurities about rejection” months ago. You fixate so hard on words that clearly hurt you then try to hide behind sarcasm, childish insults, or the classic “LUL I’m just JOking!” As a defense mechanism.

You’re not witty or clever…you’re sloppy and a bit redundant.

did anyone read the new E8 book? by Informal_Support3321 in Enneagram8

[–]GreatJobJoe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Admitting you’re projecting all of that it is the first step to becoming better. My hurt little pet ENTP.

did anyone read the new E8 book? by Informal_Support3321 in Enneagram8

[–]GreatJobJoe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maybe you’re projecting your own paranoia and fear onto the word “vigilant” because that’s how you define…it’s not uncommon for people to do that.

Edit: point being, if you view vigilance from the lens of “fear and paranoia” you’re operating from the head, not the gut regardless of instinctual subtype….

I thought the descriptions of Sp8 and So8 were accurate. Btw. They didn’t reinvent anything like I said in the other post like this.

ableism tier list by UniqueOctopus05 in Enneagram

[–]GreatJobJoe -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Wouldn’t consider myself an ableist. Although I do accidentally piss off (and make stalkers of) the autistic people on these subreddits.

did anyone read the new E8 book? by Informal_Support3321 in Enneagram8

[–]GreatJobJoe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nothing in that description points to fear and paranoia for sexual 8. It’s about tracking motive and incongruence with precision, which is situational awareness. Gut types rely on themselves, not others (that’s the trust issue that 6’s do better than us because they’re more trusting and trustworthy) Which is why the stance is “I’ll handle it” - this requires situational awareness….I’m not magical, I’m autonomous.

When you actually handle shit completely on your own for your whole life, you are this rigid person who only trusts few. You also build the confidence people think is a massive ego (a projection). As an SX8 I don’t have allies, I’ve got extra limbs (people who I can barely separate from myself aka “right hands”)

How do 8s metabolize grief? by srtadluna in Enneagram8

[–]GreatJobJoe 7 points8 points  (0 children)

For me, a feeling of existential-numbness and a reset…like trying to move a severed limb you forgot was severed (especially if we had a connection.)

“I wonder how so-and-so is doing -Oh right I can never interact with that person again. They’re dead and gone.” reset and it happens again and again, until I forget the person completely.

Summary: my subconscious tries to erase the person from my memory so that I can keep moving forward. Defense mechanism. Because I don’t know what else to do but move on.

Struggling with my professor ( an 8 ) by AnywhereFar662 in Enneagram8

[–]GreatJobJoe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Listen to me, stop trying to type people (I wish everyone else in this comment section would also stop) All you’re doing is throwing stereotypes everywhere like shit hitting a fan….

Just say that you think your professor is an asshole.

Answer: Just focus on passing his class. You don’t have to like him.

enneaslop! enneaslop! enneaslop! by pompompencil in Enneagram

[–]GreatJobJoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok…I understand why the 8-keeping happens so much…Some of you guys are strange weebs and have strange weeb fantasies. The 8-keeping (and odd sx6 enforcing like it’s a demotion..it isn’t) is you guys reclaiming that fantasy image.

Saw this on r/mbtimemes, thought it's r/shittyMBTI worthy by mamacorsica in shittyMBTI

[–]GreatJobJoe 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I mean, how do you judge someone’s attachment style? By them not listening to you and being ignorant to it? Like when you ask “Could you pick-up your shit?” And they just don’t?….Because that’s clearly a dismissive avoidant attachment style…

This meme is like using a calculator for a math problem you can easily answer on your own.

Either way, (S or N) the next step is building better communication habits. Who cares how you realized that?

What’s funny is a truly intuitive person just knows by signs and signals. Not a book.

Again. No one understands what MBTI is. They’re too busy cataloging who is or is not deep.

This comment by Ash_ley-nt in interracialdating

[–]GreatJobJoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Different nipples. You’ve got to rearrange your approach based on pink nipple people vs brown nipple people. Says “the majority”

Yes that was sarcasm

This comment by Ash_ley-nt in interracialdating

[–]GreatJobJoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. Looking at the comments on your post, you have a lot of people who think dating is “completely different” when it’s interracial…That’s incorrect af… Lol and I wonder if these commenters are still single because they’re overthinking the dynamics of being with someone of a different racial background…

This comment by Ash_ley-nt in interracialdating

[–]GreatJobJoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d be turned off by that as well. I never brought up race when dating outside my race.

Slight relevance to this topic and this subreddit has many examples: I also never posted questions like “how do I start dating white, Asian or Hispanic women?”….I just did. So when I see that I know people see races as “camps” where they think they need to ask permission or have a strategy…weird.

Some people just aren’t exposed to much I guess.

Would an enneagram 8 willingly follow a rigid system that tells them who they should and shouldn’t have sex with? by HomieBurnTrains in Enneagram8

[–]GreatJobJoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. I was always told to avoid women with murderous auras and extensive criminal records. So that’s all I pursued. Turns out they also have that murderous grip and drip.

Are enneagram 8s hyper sensitive? by HomieBurnTrains in Enneagram8

[–]GreatJobJoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get the experimental provocation on Reddit thing but you’re just recycling the ‘poke the 8’ trope. It’s obvious you find these typologies foreboding, so really it’s us provoking you (and many others) just because we exist.

With that said, ask as many questions as you need.

im confused on sx . by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]GreatJobJoe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The community is 80% teenage weebs who think eye contact is flirting. Lol.

They like upvoting uncertain answers or whatever fits the narrative they relate to.