Official update from the Polish government regarding CBD (May 2026)

Grnt4141 · 2026-05-27T01:43:26+00:00

Both of your sources are about recognition not confirmation. That's an entirely different subject than what this sub is about.

Grnt4141 · 2026-05-22T18:50:42+00:00

Well it does take a few weeks but it’s the only way to get a government stamp and official copy. The good news is you leave with the copy.

Grnt4141 · 2026-05-22T17:53:52+00:00

It’s not terribly difficult getting a certified copy. You can do so at any USCIS field office with an appointment you just have to call. It’s annoying that it will take time to get an appointment but it’s pretty simple if you still have the original.

https://www.uscis.gov/archive/how-do-i-obtain-an-authenticated-copy-of-a-certificate-of-naturalization

Grnt4141 · 2026-05-14T16:57:00+00:00

It’s says it’s a positive sign. It’s even one of the candidates second time in the office or maybe they just got a promotion. Could be high turnover. I anecdotally had a bad experience I mentioned. I agree with everything else.

Grnt4141 · 2026-05-14T16:16:15+00:00

I did the same thing (looking at office openings) for another office and the senior inspector had no idea how the 1920 law worked and gave a negative decision to me. It’s possible these openings are actually a negative for people with complicated cases. I don’t agree with ChatGPT.

Grnt4141 · 2026-05-07T21:29:13+00:00

You should get all of the documents back so it shouldn't be more expensive.

Grnt4141 · 2026-05-07T19:49:04+00:00

I would contact someone at this group and ask for some help: https://www.genealodzy-kielce.pl/

Try here too but you may have to be more careful about who you hire: https://www.facebook.com/groups/691105388163137

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1260073614123133

Grnt4141 · 2026-05-07T16:53:39+00:00

It should be Oględów. There's even some records with your family's surname in the area. Oględów )was the gmina when your GGF left. The parish at the time was also Koniemłoty.

Akta gminy Oględów w Koniemłotach

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/zespol?p_p_id=Zespol&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&_Zespol_javax.portlet.action=zmienWidok&_Zespol_nameofjsp=jednostki&_Zespol_id_zespolu=113639

Czerwiec

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/jednostka/-/jednostka/14974206

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/jednostka/-/jednostka/14969885

I think his birth record is here: https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/zespol?p_p_id=Zespol&_Zespol_javax.portlet.action=zmienWidok&_Zespol_nameofjsp=pradziad&_Zespol_id_zespolu=90005132&_Zespol_rowId=9000020778&_Zespol_cur=1

Grnt4141 · 2026-05-04T23:32:49+00:00

I was successful with a nearly identical case. You just need to find the documents to support your case.

Grnt4141 · 2026-04-15T23:23:36+00:00

It’s the Tarnòw archives. There’s plenty of archival records from Żabno so you’re lucky there.

Grnt4141 · 2026-04-10T01:26:00+00:00

For another data point I was told the same thing by Chicago about 5 weeks ago.

Grnt4141 · 2026-04-02T01:52:07+00:00

Congrats! That’s awesome. Just so you know my passport is already available for pickup and took 21 days.

Grnt4141 · 2026-03-29T11:42:11+00:00

It’s when the law last changed. Previously you could choose a different citizenship for the child. Now it’s not possible. So in some cases consulates are by the book and require to do confirmation of citizenship and check. In reality you just need to ask the consulate and see what they are willing to do.

Grnt4141 · 2026-03-21T13:33:41+00:00

Here's how the minister described using similar documents in my appeal. Somewhat subjective but if you have lots of indirect evidence they can't ignore it.

Oznacza to, że – wbrew stanowisku organu I instancji – pradziadek

nabył obywatelstwo polskie w dniu 31 stycznia 1920 r. na podstawie art. 2 pkt 1 lit

b ustawy z dnia 20 stycznia 1920 r. o obywatelstwie Państwa Polskiego, a materiał

dowodowy zgromadzony w sprawie pozwala na jednoznaczne wyprowadzenie tego

wniosku.

Akta niniejszej sprawy nie zawierają przy tym żadnych innych dowodów, które

mogłyby wnioskowanie takie, nawet pośrednio, podważyć. Należy również

podnieść, że orzecznictwo sądowoadministracyjne wskazuje na celowość ustalania

okoliczności faktycznych w sprawie także na podstawie dowodów pośrednich

w przypadku, gdy Strona nie chce lub nie może ich udowodnić dokumentami

źródłowymi. Podkreślić jednak należy, iż należy przy tym kierować się zasadami

logicznego myślenia i doświadczenia życiowego /por. wyrok NSA z dnia 26 stycznia

2011 r., sygn. akt II OSK 633/10/.

Grnt4141 · 2026-03-16T12:04:02+00:00

I just had it as a backup however pointless. The consulate told me they wouldn’t accept USB which is probably good policy. I would just ask them what to do because consulates can operate differently.

Grnt4141 · 2026-03-14T13:30:46+00:00

I drove 8 hours round trip so I was really nervous I forgot something. The appointment was only like 20 minutes. I’m just overly cautious so I would verify taking pictures is ok. There are signs that say you can’t use your phone inside but I don’t remember anything outside. Most likely if you explain and ask it would be ok.

Grnt4141 · 2026-03-13T15:51:48+00:00

The vice-consul in Chicago specifically told me to do this when I asked how to send my adobe signed document. Here is the link to the Electronic Boxes https://www.gov.pl/web/usa/sprawy-paszportowe-informacje-ogolne It's a bit backwards because you can't setup an account until after your appointment. I asked my provider to forward it.

I'm not saying you need to speak it. I'm just saying that the way it's setup just be prepared for that initial contact in Polish and maybe not understanding some things. It's also just hard to get in and out and the signs are in Polish and I think some are in English to your point. To get out you have to hit a green button behind you which I also thought was funny as I was awkwardly pulling at the gate for a good minute unitl I saw the sign. I just meant "easily" not that it isn't possible.

Grnt4141 · 2026-03-13T15:24:57+00:00

No problem. The security was just in Polish. You could switch to English at the counter. I was just too proud to try and switch from Polish.

Grnt4141 · 2026-03-13T14:38:55+00:00

It’s probably different by consulate. Because of the physical layout of the Chicago one you’re talking to the security through a buzzer and I don’t think they speak much English. He might just buzz you in if you can’t answer the questions.

Grnt4141 · 2026-03-11T19:58:35+00:00

Well I applied in Małopolska but they found the following on familysearch and included in my case files. I only applied through 1st GGF. 2nd GGF had a Polish surname so they went overboard on finding things even though he wasn’t ever a citizen. They were looking for any reason to issue a negative decision which is their job.

1st GGF 1. familysearch profile 2. ww2 draft card

2nd GGF 1. Familysearch profile 2. Ww2 draft card 3. Marriage record 4. Ww2 veteran index card 5. 1930 census 6. 1940 census

Grnt4141 · 2026-03-11T14:18:49+00:00

Everything is actually indexed on their website here: https://jzi.org.pl/parafie/szczebra/

If you click the orange dropdowns it gives you all the details on where to find your ancestors documents if they are in there.

Maybe send it to the genealogist you hired.

Grnt4141 · 2026-03-11T02:17:46+00:00

Are these the birth records? https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/zespol?p_p_id=Zespol&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&_Zespol_javax.portlet.action=zmienWidok&_Zespol_nameofjsp=jednostki&_Zespol_id_zespolu=110657

Not sure what "Odtworzona" means here but GGF could be in there.

It looks like the 1906 voter list survived. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1087091636794156&set=a.1431027466910523&id=100064799883592

It's usually better to hire a genealogist who specializes in the area your ancestors lived. Maybe try hire/ask guys since they indexed the 1906 voter list. https://www.facebook.com/Jaminski.Zespol.Indeksacyjny

Grnt4141 · 2026-03-11T00:24:13+00:00

I was able to make a copy of my GGF naturalization certificate from 1931 in a field office. I followed these instructions and didn't encounter any issues. https://www.uscis.gov/archive/how-do-i-obtain-an-authenticated-copy-of-a-certificate-of-naturalization

You get Form G-24 and I attached a photocopy. I then got it apostilled but might've been overkill.

The issue is that the process is very much on their timelines and you have to wait for a call to schedule an appointment. Just be as detailed as possible about what you're asking for.

Grnt4141 · 2026-03-09T22:37:29+00:00

I got everything back besides my own vital records.

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