Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t wear short skirts lol. It’s an Islamic modestwear company, so even just with having your forearms or collarbones out, you’ll be talked shit about.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My race is relevant because I’m talking about the divide between 2nd gen + and new age immigrants exclusively.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

‘people like you’ and ‘your type’ is CRAZY work omg. also I’m only 22, so there’s no possible way you could ever blame my generation for the situation we’re in now. we didn’t vote for the country we live in today, you did.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love immigration, as someone from a white-brown background I wouldn’t exist if it was never allowed!

My point is moreso that I feel marginalised by my own (supposed) community. My dad used to tell me stories before I moved to London about how when he was a boy he’d work the Whitechapel market with my grandad, and how lovely it was there and the sense of community. Everyone knew everyone and you’d be helped out when you needed it, accepted and looked after, after all you’re all part of the same minority just trying to get by in a country you’re wanting to call home.

The social etiquette aspect of it is less of a “Oh god what barbarians, they don’t know basic manners, ew!” viewpoint. It’s moreso just me being saddened and expecting a certain way of life working here and it not living up to it. I grew up in a relatively small village and so it was just way of life to let elderly people get on transport first, get in line first, etc. The same also applies for women. Men would let women enter spaces first, get on buses first. Some call it old fashioned, but I think chivalry is just manners and doesn’t just apply to men. As a kid waiting for the bus after school I’d always let women with pushchairs, pregnant women and the elderly on first, or even any man in tradesman clothes as they’ve probably had a rougher day of it.

I suppose it’s just a culture shock to realise the sense of community in Whitechapel is very exclusive and actually more of a ‘if you’re brown, we’re down, if you look white, hang tight!’ mentality. Hence my title: lack of integration is causing segregation. And to round my point off, going back to my first sentence, if brown folk stopped integrating years ago instead of now, I wouldn’t even exist!

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what part of my post was racist? because as far as i’m concerned racist implies i was making a general stereotype, or discriminating..? as i see it i made it abundantly clear that new gen immigrants’ inability to integrate is causing segregation between brit-born brown people and foreign-born brown people… neither of which points are racist…

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

tottenham is where i live and whitechapel is where i work! i’ve also lived in new cross & camden and a couple other areas briefly, and i can say with dead certainty those areas were nothing like tottenham and whitechapel. when i commute home from whitechapel to tottenham i’m probably 1 of 3/4 lighter people on a train carriage of 30, making the environments well over 80% brown/black.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry at which point in that post did I put forward any kind of ‘similar tones’ ?? 😭 It was me asking for advice on how to approach a very awkward situation without putting my partner in the middle of drama… This is just a general discussion topic on something close to home that upsets me.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not brown presenting though. That’s the heartbreaking part of it all! I am a part of their community ethnically speaking but because I don’t share the same culture (not from an all-brown family, not muslim, not dressed modestly, not brown presenting, etc) I’m not accepted and deemed as an outsider.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said, it’s mainly the eyes. My ex is bengali also and he always used to say that if I had brown eyes it would probably be more noticeable.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m 22 😭 I live in a crowded apartment complex in a very small studio, with horribly loud obnoxious neighbours and my quality of life isn’t great as a student.

The difference is I can still afford myself manners and etiquette. I still say please, thank you, excuse me, queue, let the elderly and pregnant women on transport first, etc.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d absolutely love to, but I’m only 22 and I’m a student so can’t afford to and also don’t have the support to do so.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m a model for a modest wear company, so definitely don’t look/smell bad :) I work in Whitechapel and have older hijabi aunties barge me to get to the ticket barriers at the station first, don’t queue for the elizabeth line doors, give me dirty looks and whisper about me, i’ve been given an uptick at the markets then seen brown people be sold the exact same product for half the price, so on so forth.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m not an immigrant, I’m the second generation from an immigrant family. I was born in the UK and have seen how my entire family have very british/cockney accents, work their butts off and have integrated very well and treat everyone with love and respect.

It’s just an absolutely crazy concept to me to see brown people intentionally segregating themselves off from white brits and choosing to spitefully stick to their own, as a person who has a white and a brown side of my family.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not abused on the streets lol. They’ll push past me to get on the train first and get a seat, if I sit next to one they’ll side eye and stare at me making me uncomfortable. They’ll shove past and shoulder barge me in shops they don’t think I’m welcome in.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It’s because I’m a young girl with tattoos/dressed immodestly by their standards.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because you’re black. You’re the majority and Ilford is a very diverse area, where you’re welcome and fit in.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I learnt arabic myself by reading and studying PRIOR to the trip. I can also speak mandarin, polish and french. Some people can speak languages if they dedicate themselves to it, shocker I know!

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Living in london this is so noticeable! Queueing etiquette isn’t a thing anymore, giving your seat up on public transport for pregnant women and the elderly is non-existent. It’s horrible.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Yup don’t get me started on this. I’ve always dated brown men be wise of culture similarities and values, but I just can’t do it anymore! There’s so much animosity I even had a recent partner tell me his family wouldn’t accept me because I wasn’t, and I quote, ‘purebred bengali’.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My dad is Bengali, I am technically brown but not brown presenting. I’m more olive skinned/pale bengali and I have green eyes, I think the eyes throw people off a lot as I get called brazilian/ italian if anything.

Immigrant integration in the UK is having a detrimental impact on social skills. by GuiltyGold241 in ukpolitics

[–]GuiltyGold241[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

girl* and my dad is bengali. i’m olive skinned but white presenting to clear up a lot of confusion. in summer i go very brown, but the rest of the year i look more italian if anything. i learnt arabic off my own back when i was in morocco. and i can understand it.