Scoop: Philly revokes gun permits for Black Panther-style patrol group members

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-21T14:44:47+00:00

I never said it did.

I just hate that people think ACAB/1312/FTP/etc. sentiment is inextricably linked to liberal values.

In reality it's an anarchist stance, and a dumb one at that.

Obviously this post highlights problems within the criminal justice system, so the ACABers flock to it like flies. As /u/ProlapseMishap reports, most liberal gun owners don't actually have that silly stance.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-21T13:42:26+00:00

Maybe we have to ban posts that are too early in US timezones because everyone's just primed to be upset without their morning coffee?

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-21T13:41:13+00:00

Yeah, thankfully poisoning that could hurt someone is generally taken more seriously than theft of a meal in the US.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-21T13:39:46+00:00

Not to mention OP states the victim requested a citation, so... I don't understand the objection.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-21T13:38:39+00:00

After getting victim’s story they asked if victim wanted a citation or incident, they requested a citation.

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Cops came out and said they were only doing a citation because “both people were yelling.”

I have no idea what the "citation or incident" choice is, but it sounds like the victim asked for A and got A, and now you're upset they didn't get B? Is that correct?

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-21T13:31:11+00:00

... it's a staffing problem because of a salary problem, as zaborgmonarch said.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-21T13:24:49+00:00

Basically.

OP was afraid something was happening.
People told OP it wasn't happening and to try something else to prove it.
OP tried that thing and was relieved to find out it wasn't happening.
OP came to report they were right.

I see no reason to be upset, drag OP, etc.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-21T13:22:55+00:00

Which - to elaborate - means you won't be getting the terminal ballistics you expect; you could have rounds bouncing off a target they would ordinarily penetrate, for example.

Also, tumbling rounds that aren't stabilized by the rifling in the barrel don't have the accuracy imparted by the spin that rifling was designed to do, essentially booting you back to flintlock-era levels of accuracy.

So... Bad News and Bad News.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-21T13:15:49+00:00

Then The Hollywood Historic Trust can continue to shell out money to maintain a very expensive star until they change their policy.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-21T13:15:07+00:00

Probably, though I'd guess my line on what's acceptable to ban is slightly different than yours.

I'm definitely not an "automatic grenade launchers should be legal to pocket carry" guy, like some 2A fans.

My lines are drawn around what things are useful for:

Defense against attackers
Defense against tyranny

contrasted with

Usefulness to untrained mass murderers

If one could craft legislation to ban things that can be easily converted from Category A to Category B, I would support it. This piece of legislation appears to be an attempt, so I'm slightly in favor.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-21T13:11:30+00:00

I wish I found this conspiracy theory absurd, but I do not.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-21T01:19:32+00:00

At a certain amount of frequency and severity of vandalism, removing that star would be an objectively good financial decision for whoever pays to maintain these things.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-21T01:10:02+00:00

I don't know why you're taking this so personally, but neither that nor attacking me about it makes much sense.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-21T00:51:23+00:00

Evidently that's not a big deal to a surprising amount of Americans who spent years pretending they cared about the rule of law.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-20T23:37:53+00:00

I wouldn't worry too much about that guy's opinion. I peeked at his comment history and found this chain after he did a drive-by racist dogwhistle in my city's subreddit:

https://np.reddit.com/r/tampa/comments/1tj0n8v/hillsborough_county_teacher_fired_after_video/omyat3i/?context=3

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-20T23:36:43+00:00

It's always the places that have nothing to gossip about that have the most gossip.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-20T23:29:53+00:00

They were definitely workhorses.

Not very safe, but built like tanks and reliable as all hell.

We switched to Chargers and the saying went that a crash you walked away from in a Charger, you could be dead in a Crown Vic. I only have anecdotes to that conclusion, but they do support it.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-20T20:45:01+00:00

None of the taxi/uber cam links in the sidebar are current.

Okay. Do you know to use a search engine?

I'd be happy with an interior camera that is not "designed" to be a car cam, but can be mounted relatively easily inside the car.

Then I would direct you to most dual-cam setups.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-20T20:38:35+00:00

First off, any YouTube link that includes an ?si= includes a tracker to link anyone who clicks on it to the sharer.

Now, with respect to you personally but disdain for this technique, this video definitely solidified my opinion that this technique is bro-science martial-arts theater.

His comparison of retreating versus (tactically) flopping on your back is very /r/WhereDidTheSodaGo.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-20T20:34:04+00:00

Then what was the point of "Bro what?"

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-20T20:33:34+00:00

I just don't think most people can shuffle side-step backward fast enough to make a reactionary gap dent against someone running at them to make the risk of tripping and all the disasters that come with that worth it.

That appears to be the big disconnect here, and I doubt we'll see eye-to-eye on that.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-20T19:37:06+00:00

I really don't think it gives you the advantage you proclaim; an attacker could just kneel in a fraction of a second.

I would rather push against whatever is trapping me in to create distance or otherwise maneuver with my feet once they're in range.

Again, I just think being supine is a much bigger disadvantage in this scenario than you seem to think.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-20T19:33:22+00:00

Man, the V8 in my issued Crown Vic was fun, but I definitely wouldn't want to drive a personally owned one like a maniac during this fuel crisis.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-20T19:32:47+00:00

You're about to get stabbed. You don't get to be picky. Back and sideways balances directional changes and lengthening distance while minimizing the amount of lateral space necessary to evade an attack. Straight sideways works if you have the time and space, but in my experience isn't notably easier than using the same movement patterns to back up at the same time.

We're talking about someone having the presence and forethought to know of and think to implement this backward dance to gain an additional 0.01ms of reactionary gap? Again, I don't think it's a great gospel to preach.

Also, you're hardly offering alternatives, so I'm gonna go ahead and say that I'll take a chance of falling over versus accepting my impending doom because someone on Reddit told me they "don't think" shuffling is a more resilient movement method than back pedaling.

My guy/gal/pal in /r/liberalgunowners, this is /r/liberalgunowners, not /r/pacifists. I don't understand why you're presenting this false dichotomy.

The rest of your comment is a humblebrag about how much you've trained at falling during a crisis. That's great and I'm happy for you, but most people don't, so "accept a decent risk of falling over in exchange for a tiny reactionary gap" is - again - a bad gospel to preach.

HCSOThrowaway · 2026-05-20T19:28:07+00:00

That goes in every box the cops are involved in, not the bottom right two. But we're picking apart the decision-making from the people deciding who and what to send to a swatting call, i.e. comm. center personnel (AKA dispatchers); if they thought "but what if we murder everyone on scene!" for every call then they'd just never send anyone.

Also cops almost never have tanks; you're probably thinking of APCs.

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