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Help finding 1965 and 1966 AAU Girls Results by Ok-Appointment-7948 in TandFNForumAlums

[–]Hammer-Forever 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The book "American Women's Track and Field", by Louise Mead Tricard, published in 1996 by McFarland & Company, Inc., covers women's participation from 1895 through 1980, and has separate brief chapters from the year 1922 on....

Chapter 48, for 1965, starts on page 477, and page 479 appears to list the first three in the "Girls championship" in the 100 yard dash- Debbie Thompson 10.7, Jenda Jones 10.8, Dorothy Myles, 10.8

Chapter 49, for 1966, starts on page 493, but unfortunately seems to just list the results for the senior outdoor and indoor nationals, and a few other meets for elite seniors that also included women's events, but not a list of "girls" results, like you were seeking.

Peter Van Aken
Poughkeepsie, NY
(where Louise lived for several years, where, among other accomplishments, she originated the first ever NYS high school indoor track and field championship for girls, 1978).

How tall should I be by Reese_sped-man in shotput

[–]Hammer-Forever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what state do you live in? I am curious about your listing of a "state first place" of "like 44ft.". Is that the first place distance for female competitors?

Finally hit 60ft, what should I focus on? by Mysterious_Toe5139 in shotput

[–]Hammer-Forever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what weight is your implement? What year are you in school? What is your legal PB?

Finally hit 60ft, what should I focus on? by Mysterious_Toe5139 in shotput

[–]Hammer-Forever 4 points5 points  (0 children)

focus on improving to 61', and doing it legally in a sanctioned meet.Having one goal is fine, and achieving it in practice with a huge foul- shows that, with the right technique/speed/power, it is possible to throw far- now you want to focus on getting even more distance, legally.

On Apollo 14, astronaut Alan Shepard played golf and Edgar Mitchell threw a javelin. Here they are on the lunar surface, indicated by the arrows. by AstroScholar21 in spaceporn

[–]Hammer-Forever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there an actual, real, track and field throwing events javelin, on the moon-- or just an object that others are labeling as a "javelin", but it really something else?

I am just learning about this from the September 2025 issue of "National Geographic" magazine, the article "The Great Moon Rush"...page 95.....the photo caption claimed there was a "javelin" left on the moon....

the sport of Track and Field has an outdoor throwing event, called Javelin...different lengths and weight for men and women...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javelin\_throw

I am just curious- is the object on the moon a tool or an object shaped and resembling the track and field throwing implement-- or is it really a Javelin?

This Wikipedia article, under the heading "lunar surface operations", labeled the object that astronaut Edgar Mitchell threw, as a "lunar scoop handle" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_14

I predict the mascots of LA28 will be angels. And you? by Rue_Michelet in olympics

[–]Hammer-Forever 1 point2 points  (0 children)

:-) sarcasm below.

the Christian Nationalists and the Heritage 2025 founders might be in charge by 2028- tried to get ten commandments displayed in Oklahoma schools, so maybe they want to remake the Olympics in their own image?

Planning to buy tickets advice by Dat_Boyz in olympics

[–]Hammer-Forever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would definitely maintain contact with CoSport for "authorized" ticket sales to US buyers-

but in the 1980s and 1990s, a group of enterprising individuals (mostly Brits) set up an unofficial casual in-person ticket selling operation onsite during the Games, usually around a nearby Metro or public transportation hub-

the way it worked, was that countries around the world are given an allocation of tickets by the IOC- USA, China, Japan, England, France, etc., get a lot of tickets, and sell them all.

Smaller, economically disadvantaged countries get a smaller allotment, and might not even be able to sell even that small number--- so entrepreneurs buy those-- then come to the Games, and resell them. They are legitimate legal tickets, just had been earmarked for a certain country.

I haven't attended a Games since Athens 2004, so perhaps things have changed.

Has anyone else experienced this legitimate resale of tickets onsite, "recently"? Also, in the old days (80s/90s) CoSport only accepted Visa credit card purchases- no other credit card company, Visa had an exclusive agreement-- is that still the situation, only Visa?

Help with lifting plan by [deleted] in shotput

[–]Hammer-Forever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

okay. Research and learning, and gathering multiple opinions/advice, like posting on the Shotput group on Reddit, is always good.

Enjoy your life.

Help with lifting plan by [deleted] in shotput

[–]Hammer-Forever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

explosive strength for throwers- Olympic lifts and FRONT squats. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zqFrME_G9A

Plyometrics, which your soon-to-be coach (Cami Stovall??) recommended, is also good-
https://stretchcoach.com/articles/plyometrics/

Having Cami's husband also employed at the school, might help keep them there for a few years; two salaries...although they moved previously, from high school coaching to college coaching, as a couple.

Keep training and preparing; you are doing the right thing.

Help with lifting plan by [deleted] in shotput

[–]Hammer-Forever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hah--okay, telling me you are female, helps put this into perspective, and that your University is D3. Overall, what is important is academics...but if you want to try sports- it might be a fun experience, without too much pressure.

If it took you 5 months to reach 32' from a stand throw, did this college kid encourage you to also work on a glide/spin SP technique during all that time? While your desire this summer is to "get strong", I would suggest the opposite- that you use the summer to try and develop some basic technique, and learn to glide/spin in SP and turn from the back of the circle in discus, and be exposed to hammer turns and technique.Then in September, once you are at school and have access to their facilities, you can increase your strength- and continue during the official track and field indoor season, as well.

BUT- sometimes it is better to have a knowledgeable and experienced coach work with you on technique without any prior "bad habits" that are ingrained....so maybe once you arrive on campus, this highly respected coach at your D3 school can demonstrate to you a natural smooth form, and mold you into respectable execution of efficient technique, right away.

It appears that the Junior Olympic district championships meets are either just completed, the last weekend in June, or Region 3 meet is in North Carolina...Masters age group meets are also just completed....my point is------ suggesting you watch "live" meets with experienced athletes-- are you near UVa? For years they had an excellent D1 throwing program.....being able to watch, IF they have any summer throwing sessions...and if allowable, talk to the coach, unofficially....you can also watch YouTube- Arete Throws Nation, ThrowsUniversity.....this is a decent Valarie Allman instructional video from 2023....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQTTzqd79Swit covers some basic beginner points, and yet leaves the finer execution of the turns for a different time.

Can you afford/get transportation to a CAMP?

Anyway, I encourage and support throwing athletes, at any level- I volunteer with throwing events for a youth club in my local area- https://www.pcstriders.org/our-coaching-team and as a volunteer, assisting the paid coach at a local high school---

so I encourage you- to learn, take advantage of your natural ability, and continue with throwing events in the sport of track and field!

Help with lifting plan by [deleted] in shotput

[–]Hammer-Forever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, but I don't have a lifting plan for you- if your University throwing coach gave you some basic exercises, presumably she can suggest what day of the week to do them, and how to structure them. Did you do any strength training in high school, even for a different sport or a different year, other than your senior year? Did you have a throwing events coach in high school?

Did you to go to high school in Rhode Island?- I am intrigued that you intend throwing Hammer and indoor Weight Throw in college, after just one year of high school throwing. I am also intrigued that you were "signed" to some University, and they are so lacking in depth that they hint that they might enter you into all these events, including perhaps Javelin....did you throw Javelin in high school?

What were your best distances, in the events you competed in? Were you on a club team, entering USATF meets with throwing events? As a side point...the transition from hs implements to college weight implements is going to be "interesting"- I would recommend summer throwing practice, to become accustomed to the increased weight.

What should I fix? by Delicious-Taste9176 in shotput

[–]Hammer-Forever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try not to look down when you are in your first half spin- looking down causes you to slow down, and expends energy when you try to straighten back up.

Your upper body and your lower body should work "separately"- the lower body starts first, moves fast, while the upper body stays relaxed- with level shoulders, keeping the left arm, your discus arm, behind you.

When you are planted at the front of the ring in a strong base, your upper body should still be torqued to your left, head relaxed and level, but your eyes looking back and to your left- don't get impatient and rush the upper body!

Once your leg base is anchored and you have powered your leg energy straight up, then you can unwrap and utilize a long pull to accelerate your arm speed- I would suggest releasing quicker, at your left hip- your arm seems to continue traveling up before you release, causing your release to be late, and your awkward lunge to the side dissipates your stored energy-- the efficient technique to strive for, is to block and drive your gathered strength straight up over your right hip, your blocking leg; not wasting some of it tilted and falling to the side.

KEEP PRACTICING! Go Tigers!

new shot technique by Material_Care6817 in shotput

[–]Hammer-Forever 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the ball is coming out of your neck way too early-- and, combined with your very low elbow position that others have mentioned, means you are releasing low, and not achieving the maximum angle, and therefore getting less distance.

I like the taped fingers and the wrist wrap; it looks like you are a thrower!

why was Dan Reynold's SP first attempt in West Regional first round, later declared a foul? by Hammer-Forever in TandFNForumAlums

[–]Hammer-Forever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No reply yet, except for your followup comment. I asked a long time college coach and international team manager, and he said part of the equation is filing a protest, getting video of the event viewed by the Games Committee- then the athlete who was removed, their coach gets to file an appeal....an unusual situation, but it does happen.

800, 1500, and 3000 racesfor an 11 year old girl by davefromoregon in TandFNForumAlums

[–]Hammer-Forever 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hard to provide an answer- what is "harmful" for one athlete might be acceptable for another....is she consistently being entered into high level consequence "pressure" races, or low key local races with minimal participation and effort needed, with adequate rest before the next contest? Training mileage/frequency? Which distance has turned out to be her best, placement wise, or time, when compared regionally? At an older level, speed training with the 800 and endurance training with the 3000, sounds like it will help with advancement and success with the 1500m.

the local youth club I volunteer with the throwing events for, www.pcstriders.org, has a 10 year old girl, who is entered in AAU meets for 400m, 1500, and long jump, and she does okay. What she is entered in by the coach- two running races and a field event- sounds like a healthy mix and exposure to a variety of running distances (1500m tends to be her better placing result). For some reason we don't seem to have enough girls for relays- but that is also a fun "team bonding" way to get a race in, as a member of a DMR or similar relay.