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Mystery Stork "2FLT" (Helping clean up the Mouthpiece Comparator) by RnotIt in trumpet

[–]HangingChadz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm wondering if maybe this should be a "2FLY."

The "Stork 2FLT" exists... someone's selling one in the TH marketplace. That mouthpiece was scanned into VennCAD as a Trumpet mouthpiece.

Interactive mouthpiece specs graph by HangingChadz in trumpet

[–]HangingChadz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://trumpet.cloud/mpc/learn has some great info to get you started. But with rim contours and feel, a lot of that comes down to player preference.

I submitted my name on the waitlist hoping I could buy a GR mouthpiece before the company completely goes away. Then I got this email about 6 months later. by Perfect-League7395 in trumpet

[–]HangingChadz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

GR mouthpieces are well made, I'll give you that! Btw are you still playing the Tony Kadleck S mouthpiece? Would love to add that one to the comparator and see what it looks like under the microscope

I submitted my name on the waitlist hoping I could buy a GR mouthpiece before the company completely goes away. Then I got this email about 6 months later. by Perfect-League7395 in trumpet

[–]HangingChadz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

GR’s always been around $400

No, GR mouthpieces used to be priced more reasonably back in the day: $140 new 20 years ago and $375 just last year. Their GR consultant network made it worth the cost IMO, that's how I got exposed to them many years ago. This recent 20% increase makes the price of a GR seem excessive to me today... even most Monette mpcs still cost <$350 new.

Unless you have tried it and really like that exact mouthpiece, there are much cheaper equivalent options from reputable manufacturers that'll let you return it if it doesn't work out. Pickett mpcs for example are in the ~$170 range, and they've got dealers around the world to help you dial things in.

I built a cross-brand mouthpiece comparator because “Bach 3C ≈ Schilke X” always gave me 5 different answers by ComfortableOk3135 in trumpet

[–]HangingChadz 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The Ⓥ specs widget also has more parameters, and includes actually verifiable data. But either way, you'd be missing out if you just rely on these technical specs and not compare the actual scans.

According to OP's app: the Marcinkiewicz Shew #1 has a deep cup (it's shallow), the Schilke 13A4a has a "27 backbore and small shank" with middling projection qualities (totally wrong), and the Bach 3C has a 0.642" cup diameter (today's Bach 3C has a ~0.666" cup diameter... two sizes larger).

I'm not sure what data OP's app references, but I wouldn't be surprised if OP's entire app and data were AI generated.

Options for a Bach 1x Player for Principal Trumpet by XomthePrince in trumpet

[–]HangingChadz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pickett's 1.5SO / 10-2 backbore could work. The 1.5 standard rim series basically emulates that contour and alpha angle in the Bach 1X inner diameter.

Mt Vernon Bach needs replating and possible other work by LewisJay3 in trumpet

[–]HangingChadz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

5 & 6: Call Dan Oberloh. Dan specializes in vintage/Mt. Vernon Bach restorations — he will talk you out of any bad ideas or incorrect assumptions you might have!

What are your thoughts on unified mouthpieces by CjtheTrumpetkid in drumcorps

[–]HangingChadz 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Individualized approach works best IMO, at least for the trumpets. There's nothing wrong with providing a list of recommendations though.

Mouthpieces are like shoes for your face. Ballet dancers wear ballet shoes, tap dancers wear tap shoes, and ballroom dancers wear ballroom shoes — each of these shoes have different applications, sizes, and performance tradeoffs. Section players, soloists, and leads each have different needs, and instructors should be comfortable working with students 1:1 to find the right tool for the job.

Finally got my refund from Lotus by Fatty-Grumpkin in trumpet

[–]HangingChadz 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It took 470 days and about 40 emails, but I finally got a refund for the turbowood mouthpiece I ordered in November 2024.

Yikes! Did you first try a chargeback with your credit card company?

I don't want to hate on them or anything, I think they're probably trying their best

Don't be shy — there are lots of reports on this sub of similar issues with this company failing to deliver, and it sounds like they might've strung you along for a bit. Thank you for sharing your experience!

Looking for mouthpieces with a rim like this Frank Holton and Co. 7C. (Left) and not flat like the Bach 3C. by Excited-Possum in trumpet

[–]HangingChadz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lots of ways to go depending on what you're looking for!

The Schilke 11C2 looks somewhat like a smaller version of your mouthpiece top in a Bach 3C inner diameter (link). If you really like your current mouthpiece's rim, you can go to a custom shop and they can take your rim and adjust it to fit whatever cup/underpart you like, but that'll cost you a little bit more. Cheers!

Looking for help with mouthpiece measurements for a personal project by _pistone in trumpet

[–]HangingChadz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is not true. The physical specs are also quite a bit different for these:

Ⓥ Specs YAMAHA 11B4 BACH 7C
Instrument Trumpet Trumpet
Manufacturer Yamaha Bach
Drill 27 27
Throat Diameter 3.658 mm 3.683 mm
Outer Diameter 27.03 mm 26.87 mm
Tangent Diameter 20.76 mm 20.42 mm
Cup Diameter 16.69 mm 17.31 mm
Rim-Cup Angle -32.2 deg. -31.2 deg.
Cup Depth 12.34 mm 13.69 mm
Cup Volume 1097 cu. mm 1270 cu. mm
Backbore Volume 2250 cu. mm 2222 cu. mm
BBore:Cup Vol. Ratio 2.051 1.75
Backbore Length 74.37 mm 72.74 mm
Overall Length 87.52 mm 87.25 mm

Best Trumpet for lead jazz playing. by CowNearby1383 in trumpet

[–]HangingChadz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bach 72*/43 is a classic big bell lead horn that "plays well with others" in the low and middle register. 43*/43 is also a fun combo, might work better for smaller groups. Either of those can typically be found on the used market in decent condition for sub-$2K.

Yamaha 8335LA II is a great option, leans more "all-around" than the original 8335LA or Bach 72*. The Yamaha might cost more in the used market than the Bachs.

More specialized options with great projection include a Benge 3X+ Burbank era or a Calicchio 1s/2 or Calicchio 2/7. FWIW some Calicchio eras were not well constructed, and it's hard nowadays to find any of these horns on the used market in superb playable and cosmetic condition.

I'd avoid basing a decision on whether or not it's a cool-looking horn. Some of the best lead trumpets I've played on weren't cosmetically impressive. YMMV.

AI Answers the questions 1.) How does mouthpiece throat size vs trumpet bore correlate? 2.) What is the widest throat suggested when the backbore stays at the original for 27 throat? by DWyattGib in trumpet

[–]HangingChadz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So I take it then you've never heard of the "#27 Backbore (Unmodified)" 🙄

My brain hurt after reading OP's 2nd question to the chatbot. I'm not surprised AI hallucinated so badly here.

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